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Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

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Zacha could make sense, I think Puljujarvi is another player that the Avs will really look at if he wants out of Edmonton.

Having Lehkonen, Nuke, Landeskog, and Puljujarvi all in the top 6 would be a nightmare to play against. All are hounds on the forecheck.
 
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If anything would definitely like to keep Nuke, Lehk; and Manson. These are the type of players Avs need on their roster for sure.

Someone is going to pay Kadri big money so definitely won’t be able to keep.

Just need to find those gem contracts in veteran players like Cog and Helm for bottom role. They’ve been impressive for the Avs run so far.
 
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JabroniDangles said:
If it's true that Zacha is on his way out, it wouldn't shock me at all to see the Avs trade for him in the offseason.

I seem to remember there being a lot of chatter about the Avs being interested in drafting him before they were *forced* to go with Rantanen.

He has the "high draft pedigree reclamation project" title that the Avs have a history of targeting.

The Avs have a good trading relationship with New Jersey

Zacha is from Brno, Czechia, same as Kaut. Could bringing the Czechs together and forcing them to attend a week long wildness survival experience with Milan Hejduk ignite both of their potentials?
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Zacha does have a nuke vibe to him.
 
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I dunno maybe you do prioritize Kadri after the run he's having here. Nuke looks really meh so far other than being a hound on the forecheck. Bura is not a playoff type.
 
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Chiarelli said:
I dunno maybe you do prioritize Kadri after the run he's having here. Nuke looks really meh so far other than being a hound on the forecheck. Bura is not a playoff type.
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Bura out, for sure. Kadri is a puzzle, but ultimately I think he should let go because of the word you used: "run." It's a run. He may never replicate the season he's having right now, at the tail end of his prime. The kind of money he'll command is almost certainly best spent on keeping or bringing in the highest-quality depth that's available.

That said, I think it's a bit more realistic than many might think that Kadri signs for a team-friendly deal, especially with this run taking them as far as round 3 thus far.
 
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Chiarelli said:
I dunno maybe you do prioritize Kadri after the run he's having here. Nuke looks really meh so far other than being a hound on the forecheck. Bura is not a playoff type.
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His offense hasn't translated but his forechecking and backchecking are a huge reason for this teams success. He and Lehkonen are exactly the type of support players this team needs.

My concern with Kadri is that this is a career year and he's on the back half of his career. If you pay him big over a longer term contract there's a good chance that looks bad and quick.
 
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SoundwaveIsCharisma said:
His offense hasn't translated but his forechecking and backchecking are a huge reason for this teams success. He and Lehkonen are exactly the type of support players this team needs.

My concern with Kadri is that this is a career year and he's on the back half of his career. If you pay him big over a longer term contract there's a good chance that looks bad and quick.
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Nuke isn't hesitating to shoot, which I like. Get some pucks on net and if it doesn't go in, maybe someone pops in a rebound.
 
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Let's play hypothetical here and assume the Avalanche continue going on a run with Francouz as "the guy" into the SCF and actually win it. Thinking too far ahead here I know but IF it happens:

Do the Avs seriously consider running with Frankie as the guy next season and look for a 1B goalie in UFA to complement him?

It's not my preference, but Francouz playing well here and the Avs continuing to win might make it a discussion for Joe and company.
 
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dahrougem2 said:
Let's play hypothetical here and assume the Avalanche continue going on a run with Francouz as "the guy" into the SCF and actually win it. Thinking too far ahead here I know but IF it happens:

Do the Avs seriously consider running with Frankie as the guy next season and look for a 1B goalie in UFA to complement him?

It's not my preference, but Francouz playing well here and the Avs continuing to win might make it a discussion for Joe and company.
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I was thinking the same thing myself :)
 
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dahrougem2 said:
Let's play hypothetical here and assume the Avalanche continue going on a run with Francouz as "the guy" into the SCF and actually win it. Thinking too far ahead here I know but IF it happens:

Do the Avs seriously consider running with Frankie as the guy next season and look for a 1B goalie in UFA to complement him?

It's not my preference, but Francouz playing well here and the Avs continuing to win might make it a discussion for Joe and company.
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Someone like Fleury in that scenario would be a solid target IMO.


Or a younger guy like Husso who could also potentially challenge for the #1 spot.


If Frankie continues playing great it could definitely mean going a different route this summer.
 
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Pokecheque said:
He most certainly does not. Not even close.
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you were likely one of the ppl that wrote off nuke before he got here as well while I was saying give him a chance.

dahrougem2 said:
Let's play hypothetical here and assume the Avalanche continue going on a run with Francouz as "the guy" into the SCF and actually win it. Thinking too far ahead here I know but IF it happens:

Do the Avs seriously consider running with Frankie as the guy next season and look for a 1B goalie in UFA to complement him?

It's not my preference, but Francouz playing well here and the Avs continuing to win might make it a discussion for Joe and company.
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take a flyer on a guy with upside like Husso or Ingram maybe you catch a guy that fits and can stick around.
 
This year and the next two years are probably the deepest teams that the Avs will be able to ice. MacKinnon and Toews are both underpaid by at least 3 million. Byram, Newhook, perhaps Meyers are already or should be able to contribute significantly on ELCs and hopefully bridge deals later on. Avs should be going all in to win these next few years before these bigger contracts kick in and then really tough choices need to be made. I actually think bringing Kadri back is a no-brainer assuming that he is willing to come back on a reasonable deal e.g. 7.5 million per for 5 years for two reasons: 1) a strong 2C is absolutely essential to compete for the Cup right now; 2) rather than letting him walk for nothing, it would be much better to trade other players (i.e. Girard) so that the Avs can recoup assets.

If the Avs can win the Cup this year, it essentially demonstrates that Girard should be the one to go - winning the last 3 rounds of the playoffs without him, having Byram ready to take on a bigger role, and our best prospect being a smallish LD makes him the most expendable of our core players.

Ideally, we try to bring back the fast, ageing, ultra-cheap 4th line to save money since they have dominated their matchups throughout the playoffs. Trade Compher for draft picks or keep him depending on what you get for Girard. As other posters have mentioned, if Francouz goes on a run, that raises a lot of other possibilities if we don't have to pay big bucks for Kuemper.

Landeskog (7) Mackinnon (6.3) Nichushkin (5.5)
Lehkonen (3.75) Kadri (7.5) Rantanen (9.25)
Newhook (908 K) Meyers (912 K) Forward X
Cogliano (1) Helm (1) O'Connor (1.05)

Toews (4.1) Makar (9)
Byram (894 K) Johnson (6)
Defence Y Manson (3.5)
MacDermid as utility forward/defense (987 K)

Francouz (2)
Goalie Z

This roster with 3 holes to fill still has 11.8 million in cap space available. Should be plenty to round out the holes, particularly as Girard will be traded for cheap young talent or draft picks.

If Kuemper is resigned for 5.5, you would still have 6.3 to find a 3rd line winger and depth defenceman - Could be Nick Paul (or Compher) for 3.5 million, with the remaining going to Edler/Braun/Jack Johnson for 2 million or less. Otherwise, Girard could be used instead to acquire Crouse or another good, young cheap forward to solidify the third line and restock draft picks.

If Frankie steals the show and we don't need Kuemper, I would try trade Girard for a young goalie on an affordable contract that has potential to be a star. Assuming Oettinger, Shesterkin, Sorokin, and Demko are unavailable, Avs should figure out which of the other young goalies has the most potential for a breakout i.e. Hart, Blackwood, Samsonov, Knight, Merzlikins/Tarasov, etc.

Girard for Merzlikins plus picks or for Gavrikov and Tarasov
Girard for Blackwood, Wood/Zacha/draft picks
Girard for Samsonov, Hathaway, Ioforio/draft picks
Girard for Knight plus picks/prospects
Girard for Hart plus picks
 
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Chiarelli said:
you were likely one of the ppl that wrote off nuke before he got here as well while I was saying give him a chance.


take a flyer on a guy with upside like Husso or Ingram maybe you catch a guy that fits and can stick around.
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No, I didn't write him off. I honestly had no idea he'd have the impact he's had, but I don't think I scoffed at merely giving him a try, same as Yakupov.

But no, not the same player. With Nuke you still saw the skill, you saw the hockey sense, it just wasn't coming together. Zacha is nothing but red flags and his upside is nowhere near Nuke's.
 
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Of the names I'm seeing bandied about (I haven't heard the podcast yet), the one name that sticks out to me is Ethan Bear. Frankly I thought it was a tad foolish for the Canes to scratch him for the playoffs, I don't care if he scored a big goal or not, Bear is easily a better defenseman than Ian Cole, who was atrocious against the Rangers. He's also only 24, there's upside there for sure.
 
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Zacha could make sense, I think Puljujarvi is another player that the Avs will really look at if he wants out of Edmonton.

Having Lehkonen, Nuke, Landeskog, and Puljujarvi all in the top 6 would be a nightmare to play against. All are hounds on the forecheck.
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Pulujarvi sucks
 
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Naw, not Puliujarvi. Don't the Avs have enough players without hockey sense? They gotta add more?

Gurianov is a big heavy shot and little else. I'd take a flier on him before most of the other guys but I don't think he's all that great.
 
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