Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4

[FF de Mars]

You can nit pick if you want. Feel free but I trust MSL more than I trust myself. No way am I going to act like I know more than him.

Be my guest, you have to learn how to obey before you know how to command! There's honour in that. By the way since we're talking I wanted to ask if you had a youtube channel, you know that eastern canada youtube guy that sounds like your username, is it you? The tone is similar, a Sbah type of tone we all love.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Be my guest, you have to learn how to obey before you know how to command! There's honour in that. By the way since we're talking I wanted to ask if you had a youtube channel, you know that eastern canada youtube guy that sounds like your username, is it you? The tone is similar, a Sbah type of tone we all love.

No, I don't have a you tube channel but me and 2 other guys were thinking about it. I just don't have the time needed to put into it. Work, Family, and I play/watch a few sports... that has me tied up.

Slaf is going to be who he will be and a lot of that comes down to his obsession to improve and work at the flaws. Habs are going to support him in development and help out wherever we can but he has to be obsessed to improve. It's the most critical ingredient in development from age 18-21/22 ish

 

[jrom]

If Bergevin and previous coaches did the same, the narrative would be different with our fans. Go figure eh? I think Gorton/Hughes/MSL know what they are doing. We need to trust them

They’re doing more or less what was done with Lecavalier in his first season (sheltered minutes in the bottom6 but with the big club). Lecavalier himself talked about this (pre draft) in a joint presser with HuGo.

Not saying it’s the best way to do it but not surprised that they do it.

 

[dinodebino]

All is good.

 

[salbutera]

As long as the Habs don't have an actual PP QB, one who can threaten teams with his shooting, movement and passing, this PP will continue to struggle because the other options (Suzuki & Caufield) are too static and play too predictably.

All those years the Habs had all kinds of issues generating any type of 5-on-5 / even strength offense, yet miraculously had a high end PP, even though they lacked a high end sniper (Caufield) or playmaker (Suzuki).

Wasn’t a coincidence…. all thanks to an elite PP QB in Markov.

 

[JRichard]

Can’t disagree. But we have to see this as the long game. What Slafkovsky does this year is not crucial to the long term success of this team. Management is building a new ethos and style for the team that is built on speed, skill and physicality. Xhekaj, Slafkovsky, et al are sending a message to other teams that coming to Montreal is no longer an easy two points, where you can pad your statistics and then go for a smoke meat sandwich. Xhekaj, Slafkovsky and company are going to bang you, crash you and run you over. Everyone can be intimidated. That element of intimidation and resulting hesitation will create time and space for our current and future skillful players: Suzuki, Caufield, Mesar and Hutson. I care little what happens this year, as we are not ready to compete. Who Slafkovsky plays with this year is really not as important or relevant as just letting him play. As I said, we should be playing the long game.

 

[417]

All those years the Habs had all kinds of issues generating any type of 5-on-5 / even strength offense, yet miraculously had a high end PP, even though they lacked a high end sniper (Caufield) or playmaker (Suzuki).

Wasn’t a coincidence…. all thanks to an elite PP QB in Markov.

I remember thinking watching him his last few years, thinking to myself that we got spoiled and we'll never have another Dman who saw the ice like he did.

At his peak, there were few better.

Sorry for the Markov plug in a Slafkovsky thread, but I never miss the opportunity to praise The General.

 

[Mrb1p]

Simply untrue. It crucially matters - reps againt whom?

If a guy has trouble hitting a major league curveball, he won't learn by being sent down down to a league where the curveballs are both less biting and more erratic, and he can get lots of reps against fastballs, and ESPECIALLY where even the fastballs are mostly a bit less fast.

Its a nice example you got there, its a shame we have decades of evidence against your very own beliefs.

I wonder how it feels to be a flat earther, probably just like you towards development.

 

[1909]

I think Habs should do like Seattle has done with Wright, and send him down to AHL.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

He could struggle without a good center, while on the other hand havng more success with moves that won't work in the NHL against better players.

The injury risk is the same, maybe even higher in the AHL where he could be more of a target than in Montreal.

The AHL does not "ruin" prospects, but it usually slows down their development if they are good enough to play in the top-12F or top-6 d.

You can’t cite a single case where someone’s development was “slowed” down because of time in the AHL. The injury risk is greater in the NHL, it’s the fastest, least time and space league in the world AINEC.

 

[26Mats]

I think Habs should do like Seattle has done with Wright, and send him down to AHL.

If he can't play well with Monahan, sure...

 

[BaseballCoach]

You can’t cite a single case where someone’s development was “slowed” down because of time in the AHL. The injury risk is greater in the NHL, it’s the fastest, least time and space league in the world AINEC.

How would one even try to prove tht development wa slowed by being demoted? The guys who get demoted are generally the ones less ready for the NHL, and they do take longer to develop. But you might say that they would take even longer if they stayed in the NHL.

Would have, could have.

My clue comes from elsewhere. I have observed over the past 40 years that when guys come up from the AHL, they start on the 3rd or 4th line. Even the so-called success stories like Plekanec.

So Pleky started in the NHL on the 4th line, and Suzuki started on the 4th line. Same.

Had Suzuki started in the AHL, I personally believe he would have been ready for 2nd line duties LATER than when he was actually ready, playing in the NHL the whole time. It actually took him about 3 months to get promoted to the middle six. Had he stayed in Laval for 3 months, he probably would have needed grooming time for middle six duties of, how much? Maybe not a full three months again, but certainly not on day one.

So AHL time would slow down development, at least for some players. Suzuki is one. Shane Wright on the other hand would have been slowed by staying in Seattle and sitting in the pressbox every night.

My rule of thumb, and the one NHL coaches and GMs also use, is that the young player who can handle 4th line duties or better stays and learns against the best. If they need to sit more than once n a while, and are not trusted at all, it is better to play in a lower league.

 

[Cournoyer12]

Somebody tell me once again why Slaf belongs in Laval?

 

[Schooner Guy]

Somebody tell me once again why Slaf belongs in Laval?

Before tonight's 1st period goal, Slaf was 4th on the team in goals per 60 minutes and 6th on the team in points per 60 minutes. Not too shabby for an 18 year old playing mostly on 3rd and 4th line.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Somebody tell me once again why Slaf belongs in Laval?

I mean he’s got 6 points in 18 nhl games. He’s clearly too good for the AHL

 

[Kojo]

I mean he’s got 6 points in 18 nhl games. He’s clearly too good for the AHL

That's almost as many points as Josh Anderson but Juraj is 18 years old. He's going to be a beast.

 

[bcv]

Is anyone else not seeing these « send Slaf to the AHL » posts a lot of people are mentioning?

 

[KevSkillz4]

He is soooo goood on PP

 

[badfish]

Hes looked excellent in tonight's game against Calgary

 

[Goldenhands]

Slaf's best game of the season so far, has been great all shifts.

I guess he was the one dragging Evans down...

@Estimated_Prophet

 

[The Great Weal]

Beast mode tonight. Looks much stronger on his skates compared to the start of the season. Puck is following him. Little more selfishness would do him some good.

Slaf's best game of the season so far, has been great all shifts.

I guess he was the one dragging Evans down...

@Estimated_Prophet

There is no way someone actually said he was dragging down Evans without joking

 

[Sorinth]

You can’t cite a single case where someone’s development was “slowed” down because of time in the AHL. The injury risk is greater in the NHL, it’s the fastest, least time and space league in the world AINEC.

Louis Leblanc busted in large part because he got sent back to the AHL.

 

[Goldenhands]

Beast mode tonight. Looks much stronger on his skates compared to the start of the season. Puck is following him. Little more selfishness would do him some good.


There is no way someone actually said he was dragging down Evans without joking

That would be like the 1st time you would hear him joking around, but that was a very good one nonetheless.

 

[Hannibal]

Jesus Slaf! Wow

 

[Kojo]

Louis Leblanc busted in large part because he got sent back to the AHL.

He was sent back to the Q which is even worst, they should have left him in the NCAA. But ultimately Louis Leblanc wasn't a very good prospect.