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Prospect Info: [2022 - 1st] Juraj Slafkovsky

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montreal said:
Most posters don't know what to do with #'s though. I see it all the time when dealing with Euro leagues that clearly posters don't watch a lot of say KHL, SHL or Liiga games.

With prospects it's not about the #'s, it's about how much or little they progress, to which no one knows. At 17, Rantanen had 9 pts in 37 Liiga games. Slaf had 10 in 31 at 17 as he turned 18 at the end of the regular season in March. It's not meant to compare them, just that if you drag Slaf for his #'s, what about Rantanen and his #'s? Now Rantanen clearly had great progress, just saying that #'s are misleading and in the end they don't tell the story, Slaf will either progress or he won't, only time will tell.
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The Rantanen comparison is what I see the most to justify this, but Rantanen started the explode production wise after that. Slaf never showed that sort of production until he got to show off against subpar competition.

There's obviously a lot of other factors. Kotkamiemi's mediocre production (that was significantly better than this) was blamed on a late growth spurt and a thin frame he had to grow into. Slaf is already built like a man meaning his poor production can't even be blamed on being out muscled by more mature players.
 
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cave troll said:
Never say never.lol
I have a feeling Gorton & Huges are in for some 4,5 years of tanking since they didn't fix any crucial need in this draft. I'm afraid that we'll see what "building through draft" means. But hey, in 2026 we'll be a playoff team.
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I have a good feeling that we’re getting PL Dubois in 2 seasons. He wants to play in Montreal.
 
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River Meadow said:
Kucherov was drafted in 2nd round, Datsyuk, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Many scouts saw Slaf as a 1st OA.

Some saw him 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th....

But he is a top pick, for sure.
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Again, I'm talking about facts and numbers, not perceptions of scouts. We had 2 top 3 who didn't amount to anything for us. We need a player that will play a thousand games for us. Upside is sexy but you have to be smart about it and make sure the player will reach is potential. Slaf is a risky pick. Odds are not in his favor, but again, I hope he'll succed for our sake, but it's not a smart pick.
 
River Meadow said:
They drafted KK because he was a Center.... otherwise they woulda taken Brady.



Meaning should be drafted 1st/2nd/3rd/4th overall.

Even with such low numbers.
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That doesn’t answer any question I asked you. Give me one statistic or stat that backs up that claim.
 
MTL-rules said:
With numbers, it's the context that needs to be understood in order to interpret correctly. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than intuition and gut feeling.

Slaf numbers even contextualized were horrible and too big a gamble to grab 1st OV. You talk about Rantanen. First, he's the exception, not the norm and second, he was selected 10th OV... There you can aim for the fences and gamble.

Slaf is a bad pick, period. Now, I just hope we'll get lucky and he'll defied the odds.
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Sounds like a bunch of bull to me. For me I'll always say f*** #'s and go with intuition and gut.

You blast Slaf's #'s yet his #'s were better then Rantanen who only 1 player from the 2015 draft is better imo in McDavid of course. Slaf is a bad pick to you but that means nothing. Only time will tell if it was a bad pick or not. I remember when so many on this board lost their shit when the Habs picked Price, so many were saying it was a terrible pick, look at how stupid they look now.
 
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Won't surprise me if Slaf plays with Suzuki and they play Dach with CC. Balance out the scoring and the size. Putting CC with Dach would help with his confidence and putting Slaf with the vet in Suzuki also makes sense. They can obviously play around with it, but this would be a neat way to go.
 
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montreal said:
Sounds like a bunch of bull to me. For me I'll always say f*** #'s and go with intuition and gut.

You blast Slaf's #'s yet his #'s were better then Rantanen who only 1 player from the 2015 draft is better imo in McDavid of course. Slaf is a bad pick to you but that means nothing. Only time will tell if it was a bad pick or not. I remember when so many on this board lost their shit when the Habs picked Price, so many were saying it was a terrible pick, look at how stupid they look now.
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I'm sorry but what you just said is anti-science.
 
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