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Since Buck and Tabler like to talk about Ohtani, it made me wonder when he starts and hits in the same game, there's no DH, when he comes out of the game is he allowed to continue hitting as the DH or do they just have no DH and lose an MVP caliber hitter from their lineup and now have the pitcher hitting 2nd?
 
Canada4Gold said:
Since Buck and Tabler like to talk about Ohtani, it made me wonder when he starts and hits in the same game, there's no DH, when he comes out of the game is he allowed to continue hitting as the DH or do they just have no DH and lose an MVP caliber hitter from their lineup and now have the pitcher hitting 2nd?
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Can't they put him in the OF? I don't think you can just insert a DH mid game. Either way, when Ohtani gets pulled from pitching the pitcher has to hit. If he leaves the game outright, he can't just hit. He is out of the game. The only way he can still hit is if they put him somewhere else on the field.
 
Canada4Gold said:
Since Buck and Tabler like to talk about Ohtani, it made me wonder when he starts and hits in the same game, there's no DH, when he comes out of the game is he allowed to continue hitting as the DH or do they just have no DH and lose an MVP caliber hitter from their lineup and now have the pitcher hitting 2nd?
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I would have to assume that if he comes out of the game, he's out at both spots. MLB probably hasn't thought that far ahead.

I would just say the Angels should run him in the field and accept the fact you might not to get him to pitch every once in a while. But then you look at that rotation without him...

I'm sure at some point the Angels will figure out that being able to score 12 runs a game doesn't matter when your pitching is AAA level
 
Canada4Gold said:
Since Buck and Tabler like to talk about Ohtani, it made me wonder when he starts and hits in the same game, there's no DH, when he comes out of the game is he allowed to continue hitting as the DH or do they just have no DH and lose an MVP caliber hitter from their lineup and now have the pitcher hitting 2nd?
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I could be wrong but I believe an American League team can elect not to have a DH, which is what they do when Ohtani starts if they want him to also hit.
So it becomes no different than if it were a National League game with the pitcher hitting.
 
Blitzkrug said:
I would have to assume that if he comes out of the game, he's out at both spots. MLB probably hasn't thought that far ahead.

I would just say the Angels should run him in the field and accept the fact you might not to get him to pitch every once in a while. But then you look at that rotation without him...

I'm sure at some point the Angels will figure out that being able to score 12 runs a game doesn't matter when your pitching is AAA level
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What do you mean "MLB has not thought that far ahead"? If he is out of the game, he is out of the game. Why should there be an exception? I believe he does play the OF sometimes, does he not?
 
I think if Ohtani hits as the pitcher there is no DH, he's hitting as a pitcher like if it was an NL game. So if they take him off the mound he's out as the pitcher hitting spot too.

Best they could probably do is try and stick him in the OF for 3-4 innings.
 
Suntouchable13 said:
What do you mean "MLB has not thought that far ahead"? If he is out of the game, he is out of the game. Why should there be an exception? I believe he does play the OF sometimes, does he not?
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Because Ohtani is an extremely unique case where he can do both at an elite level?

The MLB has already spun the wheel on rule changes, but god forbid they change something that would be better for fans.
 
I didn't expect such an extreme shift on McGuire, but I can't blame them for expecting him to pull it.
 
Blitzkrug said:
I would have to assume that if he comes out of the game, he's out at both spots. MLB probably hasn't thought that far ahead.

I would just say the Angels should run him in the field and accept the fact you might not to get him to pitch every once in a while. But then you look at that rotation without him...

I'm sure at some point the Angels will figure out that being able to score 12 runs a game doesn't matter when your pitching is AAA level
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Epictetus said:
I could be wrong but I believe an American League team can elect not to have a DH, which is what they do when Ohtani starts if they want him to also hit.
So it becomes no different than if it were a National League game with the pitcher hitting.
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The Nemesis said:
I think if Ohtani hits as the pitcher there is no DH, he's hitting as a pitcher like if it was an NL game. So if they take him off the mound he's out as the pitcher hitting spot too.

Best they could probably do is try and stick him in the OF for 3-4 innings.
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Thanks, that makes sense. I didn't even consider putting him in the field. Duh. Not sure what the Angels do. I remember they started not using him to hit when he was pitching when they first signed him so they might be adverse to moving him to the outfield after he was done starting a game but that would make sense.
 
On that note, where did the rule that if your DH comes into the game to field you lose the DH come from? Is there a reason behind it? I feel like it would make things a lot easier if you could bring your DH into the field and just plug someone else into DH.

Someone gets a minor injury mid game but can still hit just move them to DH and move the DH into the field. Your best bench bat is your backup catcher then they can DH without worrying about losing your DH if you hurt your catcher and they have to enter the game, they just enter the game and someone else DH's.
 
Canada4Gold said:
On that note, where did the rule that if your DH comes into the game to field you lose the DH come from? Is there a reason behind it? I feel like it would make things a lot easier if you could bring your DH into the field and just plug someone else into DH.

Someone gets a minor injury mid game but can still hit just move them to DH and move the DH into the field. Your best bench bat is your backup catcher then they can DH without worrying about losing your DH if you hurt your catcher and they have to enter the game, they just enter the game and someone else DH's.
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It feels like it was probably a compromise to the anti-DH people. This way it's like "ok, you get this special thing, but you only get one shot with it, no fudging things around to take people on/off the field with switches"

Another theory I found while trying to look this up was that the point of the DH is that they're only there to hit for the pitcher and nobody else. If you could switch a DH into the field and keep the specialized position you could potentially circumvent that.

EDIT: It would also probably be to prevent situations like yours. If you think a guy needs to come off the field, you've got to sub him out, no fiddling with the DH spot to hide someone that can still hit but can't field mid-game.
 
Hi Randal, it's Randal, no one cares work harder

(A lot of people actually don't care because they're watching the hockey game)
 
The Yankees have the short porch, the Sox have the Monstah and we have...a giant, burning ball of hydrogen 93 million miles away that makes it hard to see.
 
No Pat, the Sox didn't "adapt" to the park since game one of the series. It's called they faced one of the best pitchers in baseball in game 1 and have faced guys that aren't as good since.
 
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