GDT: 2021 NHL Entry Draft - Round 1: July 23 (8 p.m. ET; ESPN2, SN, SN NOW, TVA Sports) Part II

[Gjwrams]

Edmonton didn't want to fall back to far. Simple as that.

Yes, maybe Edmonton wasn't a fit, but Nashville, Winnipeg could have been a possibility. Heck I would have even taken on Tarasenko if it would have meant getting him at 17. I really like him is all. maybe the price was simply too high and maybe we find out what was asked for in the future. It would be nice to debate in the future.

 

[Master Yoda]

Really the point I'm making is "if you really, really wanted Wallstedt enough to make calls in trading up, then there is a way". To me they have enough stock pile to assets to make a move on a Franchise quality goaltender is all.

Obviously not enough to move your top top guys like Turcotte, Faber, Vilardi etc. If not them, it would've cost next year's first. Very hard to trade prospects for first round picks.

 

[kilowatt]

Yes, maybe Edmonton wasn't a fit, but Nashville, Winnipeg could have been a possibility. Heck I would have even taken on Tarasenko if it would have meant getting him at 17. I really like him is all. maybe the price was simply too high and maybe we find out what was asked for in the future. It would be nice to debate in the future.

Why do people keep saying they would "take Tarasenko" with the 17th? Tarasenko has value. He's not a first round pick cap dump.

 

[Gjwrams]

Why do people keep saying they would "take Tarasenko" with the 17th? Tarasenko has value. He's not a first round pick cap dump.

Not saying all they would want is to give up Tarasenko. But I bet they would listen to the Kings and make some other demands. Again, not saying we empty the darn farm. Just saying Wallstedt is a really good young goalie and the cost was probably too high for Blake.

 

[Bandit]

And yet 50% of the people on here will say Blake doesn't have a phone

He doesn’t have a phone. He has two blocks of Sex Wax that are connected by a piece of string.

 

[Cook24]

Why do people keep saying they would "take Tarasenko" with the 17th? Tarasenko has value. He's not a first round pick cap dump.

Seattle could’ve had him for nothing lol…

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Yes, maybe Edmonton wasn't a fit, but Nashville, Winnipeg could have been a possibility. Heck I would have even taken on Tarasenko if it would have meant getting him at 17. I really like him is all. maybe the price was simply too high and maybe we find out what was asked for in the future. It would be nice to debate in the future.

It doesn't make a ton of sense to trade recently drafted prospects to move up in the draft. Why trade a prospect you have a feel for from being in your system at least a year to move up for a prospect you know less about and is less developed?

I cannot recall any trades where recently drafted prospects were used as part of deals to move up in/into the first round. If you know of examples of this please add them here.

 

[DoktorJeep]

If David Savard returned a late first, the Kings could have gotten the same for Dustin Brown at the last TDL. Without an additional late first, they weren’t going to get to Wallstedt if he fell. Bill Guerin once again making authoritative moves and not painting by the numbers.

 

[Bandit]

Why do people keep saying they would "take Tarasenko" with the 17th? Tarasenko has value. He's not a first round pick cap dump.

Because he has Ziggy Palffy’s shoulder.

 

[KINGS17]

Michigan has all these 1st round picks, and they still won't win a natty.

 

[kilowatt]

Please, Blake, jump up and draft Lambos!!!

 

[Steve Zissou]

Oilers literally had Wallstedt fall to their laps and they trade back, just to lose him.

Hey they are going to re-sign Smith for 3 more years!

 

[kilowatt]

Because he has Ziggy Palffy’s shoulder.

Sure, but to suggest that the Blues would need to attach their first round pick in order to move him is just absurd.

 

[Sol]

Ahh yeah how are those guys doing lately?

Anyway I never claimed taking a goalie outside the first was bad, we have Quick of course (though the last decade of your posts about him...), only that "taking a goalie in the first round is bad" is basic.

I just think it's a stanky comment to make considering nobody goalies win cups every other year it seems. No reason to waste a top pick for a Goalie unless you're being a devils advocate for the lulz.

 

[Bandit]

Sure, but to suggest that the Blues would need to attach their first round pick in order to move him is just absurd.

I guess that’s why their GM said Tarasenko better be prepared to return to St. Louis next year.

 

[kilowatt]

Bob MacKenzie's top 32 remaining:

21 Carson Lambos
23 Francesco Pinelli
24 Nikita Chibrikov
25 Zachary L’Heureux
26 Daniil Chayka
27 Logan Stankoven
28 Aatu Raty
30 Samu Tuomaala
31 Zach Dean
32 Simon Robertsson

 

[Gjwrams]

Bob MacKenzie's top 32 remaining:

20 Xavier Bourgault
21 Carson Lambos
22 Corson Ceulemans
23 Francesco Pinelli
24 Nikita Chibrikov
25 Zachary L’Heureux
26 Daniil Chayka
27 Logan Stankoven
28 Aatu Raty
30 Samu Tuomaala
31 Zach Dean
32 Simon Robertsson

Bourgault went to Edmonton at 22

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Bob MacKenzie's top 32 remaining:

20 Xavier Bourgault
21 Carson Lambos
22 Corson Ceulemans
23 Francesco Pinelli
24 Nikita Chibrikov
25 Zachary L’Heureux
26 Daniil Chayka
27 Logan Stankoven
28 Aatu Raty
30 Samu Tuomaala
31 Zach Dean
32 Simon Robertsson

Bourgault went to the Oilers at 22

 

[Bandit]

I just think it's a stanky comment to make considering nobody goalies win cups every other year it seems. No reason to waste a top pick for a Goalie unless you're being a devils advocate for the lulz.

Year after year good teams try to win with nobody goalies and get knocked the f*** out in the first two rounds.

 

[KingLB]

If David Savard returned a late first, the Kings could have gotten the same for Dustin Brown at the last TDL. Without an additional late first, they weren’t going to get to Wallstedt if he fell. Bill Guerin once again making authoritative moves and not painting by the numbers.

Authoritatively making them a first round out every year! Great work Guerin!

 

[kilowatt]

Bourgault went to the Oilers at 22

Yep, my bad

 

[Steve Zissou]

Bob MacKenzie's top 32 remaining:

21 Carson Lambos
23 Francesco Pinelli
24 Nikita Chibrikov
25 Zachary L’Heureux
26 Daniil Chayka
27 Logan Stankoven
28 Aatu Raty
30 Samu Tuomaala
31 Zach Dean
32 Simon Robertsson

22 Corson Ceulemans just taken by Lumbus. Your Lambos still alive!

 

[kilowatt]

maaaaan f***

 

[Steve Zissou]

Wallstedt and now Lambos... damn I like Minny's picks today.

 

[ru4reals]

I think Lambos will be pretty good. His injuries may have affected his draft but kids going to be a steal.