2021 NHL Draft Thread
- Thread starter Bojack Horvatman
- Start date
- Status
canuckking1
Registered User
- Feb 8, 2015
- 12,948
- 14,087
BPA but hope we continue building our D core... that’s our clear issue, we need some size/grit back there
lawrence
Registered User
- May 19, 2012
- 16,482
- 7,380
Prepare for the worst guys, there’s no point anymore , expect , like the 11th pick or something like that and let’s just move on. This team is an utter failure. Watch bo horvat test free agency when the time comes.
Lets say we win two games in the last 3. I would want Ceulemans, Lambos and MacTavish. Ceulemans could be the top 4 rhd we are missing. Lambos has the potential to be the guy that everyone wonders how he went so low in his draft year. And Mactavish is a big, powerful scorer who could help anchor our top 6
Couldn't agree more. In fact, I agree so much so that if we slide into the 9-12 range I'm trading back (selecting Ceulemans, Lambos or Chayka) and trying to pick up a 2nd rounder.
This year is a year where 12 through 40 could all be interchangeable (with some exception) depending who saw who and when.
lawrence
Registered User
- May 19, 2012
- 16,482
- 7,380
Myyyyyyy gosh, f in shit... I can't believe I am asking this....
who you guys got for postion 10-13?
at that point I wouldn't mind
Ceulemans, Bourgault, Sillinger or Fedor Svechkov .
who you guys got for postion 10-13?
at that point I wouldn't mind
Ceulemans, Bourgault, Sillinger or Fedor Svechkov .
It's astonishing to me that, considering just HOW DISAPPOINTING this season was, that the Canucks are going to finish with their worst draft position in the first round since 2015. That's 7 years (not counting 2020, since we didn't have a first round pick that year). That's insane, considering the team we iced was sick with covid for a decent portion of the season, was missing its top player, struggled to ever outscore or even outshoot the worst opponents, and structurally and statistically played objectively worse than the team has played in many many seasons. We are almost certainly picking 11 or 12th overall. How does that even happen?
IMHO there isn't much available in terms of top talent that late in the 1st round, this season. Wow, I hate to be a bummer, but it's moments like this when you just feel like this season from hell just continues on, even after the games aren't even being played.
IMHO there isn't much available in terms of top talent that late in the 1st round, this season. Wow, I hate to be a bummer, but it's moments like this when you just feel like this season from hell just continues on, even after the games aren't even being played.
Pretty much this. I have Johnson ahead of Evidsson and Eklund though.
Hopefully Flames can keep us in top 6. I am more and more wanting a forward. Canucks issue is forwards do not have the ability to keep the puck so our dmen play too much defense. Looking at the best teams they keep the puck and get it because of their forwards. Toronto, Colorado, Los Vegas. Boston Washinton, Pittsburgh all have some good dmen but it is forwards who drive the play. In the North Montreal and Calgary are seen as having better d than all the teams above them. Look no further than Florida who lost their best dman and have seem to have gotten better since. We know we can develop forwards they will have good young linemates to play with and there are always spots open for good ones. If all is the same I would be happy with another skilled puck pursuit forward like Hoglander or Podz. Eklund, Berniers seem perfect if there.
Bubbles
Die Hard for Bedard 2023
I know we need a D and I’m still holding out hope for a bottom five finish by getting swept by Calgary but drafting a following a forward is much easier as a fan who doesn’t pay too much attention to analytics.... it’s super disappointing thinking if we rolled over for Edmonton we were two loses away from bottom 5 and the pick of the litter, not super concerned about a big drop off but there is very much a tier 1 and tier 2 that dips around 6.
I’m also not in love with a single prospect nor do I fear drafting an Edvinson... it’s all about firing Benning for me, heck I’d give up our first just for that
I’m also not in love with a single prospect nor do I fear drafting an Edvinson... it’s all about firing Benning for me, heck I’d give up our first just for that
CanuckleBerry
Benning Survivor
Best to stop considering top 8 picks. The tank has failed, unless by some miracle there is a lottery win. We will undoubtedly be picking 10-13. If Ceulemans or McTavish aren't available I would consider trading down, getting an extra pick and taking Scott Morrow.
Last edited:
Edvinsson for me, is someone that needs great coaching. Has the raw tools, but you can't drop him into a terrible defensive team at the beginning of his career if you expect him to hit his ceiling. Think he'll get into too many bad habits and won't be able to turn it around later. If he lands in Anaheim, I think his chances of hitting his ceiling are much much better than if he lands in Van/Buf for example.
Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view, when it comes to drafting d-men the Canucks seem to always go the 'safe' route.
That's what led them to drafting Oil Juolevi, who was regarded at the time as more of a sure-fire top four guy than the others in the first round. And of course Quinn Hughes was also considered a 'safe pick', who probably fell a bit only because of the size factor.
So if all the highly rated d-man are off the board by the time the Canucks are drafting and Edvinsson is still there, it still might not be him.. But if you look at his size and skating skill, he'd be more than an adequate replacement for Alex Edler down the road.
So if he's still on the board when the Canucks pick, I'd forgive them for rolling the dice on him as a bit of boom or bust prospect. But doubt it happens.
That's what led them to drafting Oil Juolevi, who was regarded at the time as more of a sure-fire top four guy than the others in the first round. And of course Quinn Hughes was also considered a 'safe pick', who probably fell a bit only because of the size factor.
So if all the highly rated d-man are off the board by the time the Canucks are drafting and Edvinsson is still there, it still might not be him.. But if you look at his size and skating skill, he'd be more than an adequate replacement for Alex Edler down the road.
So if he's still on the board when the Canucks pick, I'd forgive them for rolling the dice on him as a bit of boom or bust prospect. But doubt it happens.
Clarke, for an Offensive Dman, his skating isn't where I would like it to be. Kind of like back in 2018 when we all expected Hughes to be off the board, thus the focus was mainly on Bouchard/Dobson/Boqvist. I rated Dobson highest due to his overall game. Bigger than Boqvist with no injury issues and a better skater than Bouchard, who was an PP QB with the big heavy shot. If skating is something that scouts truly believe that he can improve, then Clarke would be the guy I would rate at the top. Some players can improve their skating, others don't.
Power, think he just leaves you wanting more. Has all the tools to be elite.
Power, Edvindsson, Hughes have played the most of the Dmen this season. Clarke is limited to what he did in Europe. See how big a factor that is in this draft.
at that point of picking in the 10 to 13 spot,,I'd actually just trade the pick along with the Eriksson contract..if we are in the top 5 ,keep the pick....this draft is non thrilling anyways...majority of these guys are 2 to 3 years away...
unlikely that they finish in the 10-13 range. 4 games in 5 nights. 5 in 7, 7 in 10 for them right now.
No reason to move assets for Loui. Clearly the team doesn't have enough to push forward next season. They should actually be more looking into move Miller for futures than adding.
It's the next contracts for Miller and Bo that are going to be the issue given their ages and term that they would want.
Philosophically, unless a player is really high end like Petey, I would almost always do a bridge like with Brock on a player coming off ELC. That would take them to 25/26, so even a max term deal after that would take them to 33/34. Like if Bo did a 3 year bridge, he would have had to extended last off-season at age 25, so max term would move him to 33. But, he's got 2 more years and is UFA at 28. Max term takes him to 36. For reference, the 2003 draft turns 36 in 2021. So, how many of those guys still went strong these past couple of seasons?
Johnny Canucker
Registered User
- Jan 4, 2009
- 17,972
- 6,365
we have eaten 85% of LE contract and he’s on the last year of it. In a year we are going to be garbage again. No way I’m giving away a pick to someone to take LE away after we waited all this time.
Johnny Canucker
Registered User
- Jan 4, 2009
- 17,972
- 6,365
You might change your mind when Podkolzin arrives....and after watching the opener of that Vegas-Minny series, I'm sure the Wild are thrilled they waited on Karpizov....what a talent and the clear Calder winner!
Can you provide some examples of players that were clearly NHL calibre but didn’t come over because of their cushy KHL job? If you’re going to make that claim then back it up.
Johnny Canucker
Registered User
- Jan 4, 2009
- 17,972
- 6,365
- Status
