Injury Report: 2021 Injury Thread - Part II

[Garavar]

Varlamov injured and unable to play Game 1 for Islanders. Anyone in here shocked?

 

[Pokecheque]

Well...if there was any doubt it was a concussion sidelining Byram, those doubts can now be laid to rest. He’s been seen trying out both a tinted visor and now Dater says he’s practicing with that pink/purple visor similar to what Calvert was using.

 

[Avsboy]

If Timmins could get better Byram can. It will take time.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Varlamov injured and unable to play Game 1 for Islanders. Anyone in here shocked?

Yes. A non Avalanche goaltender getting injured is unheard of. We have the monopoly on that shit. f*** you, Varly, you're not one of us anymore, so stop trying to be.

 

[Nihiliste]

If Timmins could get better Byram can. It will take time.

Agreed but they shouldn't throw him in for the playoffs. Have him around the team, let him practice with the squad and learn from the experience, but don't risk his career.

 

[Ararana]

Did he switch to a clear shield halfway through practice? Looks clear to me. But I’m looking at this on my phone outside so maybe I can’t see the tint

 

[The Kingslayer]

Did he switch to a clear shield halfway through practice? Looks clear to me. But I’m looking at this on my phone outside so maybe I can’t see the tint

its tinted. Not as tinted as Kopitars but its tinted.

 

[cccoltsicehockey]

It doesn't look the same to Nukes to me but could also just be different brands.

 

[dahrougem2]

Did he switch to a clear shield halfway through practice? Looks clear to me. But I’m looking at this on my phone outside so maybe I can’t see the tint

No it's definitely still tinted.

 

[Balthazar]

now Dater says he’s practicing with that pink/purple visor similar to what Calvert was using.

Jesus Christ.

 

[the_fan]

I really hope they don't rush Byram. Keep him out for at least the 1st round if needed. I think Avs have enough to get by against the Blues without Byram

 

[Metallo]

Did he switch to a clear shield halfway through practice? Looks clear to me. But I’m looking at this on my phone outside so maybe I can’t see the tint

It’s the new ClearTint(R) technology by Corning.

 

[dahrougem2]

I don't care if he thinks he's feeling ok, you shut Byram down for the rest of the playoffs. I don't want him touching NHL game ice until the start of the 2021-2022 season.

Make sure he's 100% right and then eased back into a lineup. Not thrust into the most physical hockey of the year after suffering for sure one but likely two concussions within a short amount of time.

 

[Balthazar]

I don't care if he thinks he's feeling ok, you shut Byram down for the rest of the playoffs.

When you're OK you don't need a tinted or a pink visor to help with light.

 

[Avsfan1921]

I mean, if he's symptom free and cleared to play what is the positives to sitting him out? I don't think he should be treated like glass, he needs experience and this is the best he'll get. Hitting is increased in the playoffs but he needs to learn how to handle it, just as Girard and Makar still do.

The Avs don't dress him if they are unsure of his health, there is enough depth to cover for a 4-6 dman out with injury IMO.

 

[dahrougem2]

I mean, if he's symptom free and cleared to play what is the positives to sitting him out? I don't think he should be treated like glass, he needs experience and this is the best he'll get. Hitting is increased in the playoffs but he needs to learn how to handle it, just as Girard and Makar still do.

The Avs don't dress him if they are unsure of his health, there is enough depth to cover for a 4-6 dman out with injury IMO.

The positives to holding him out are allowing him to get stronger over the summer. Allowing him to watch what playoff hockey is like instead of going out and getting destroyed.

His skill and talent level is ready for NHL hockey. His body and his ability to avoid taking huge hits, however, make me second guess if he's truly ready for the NHL - especially the playoffs.

I'd honestly have him as #8 on the depth chart right now, if an injury or bad game occurs it should be MacDonald inserted into the lineup.

 

[Avsfan1921]

The positives to holding him out are allowing him to get stronger over the summer. Allowing him to watch what playoff hockey is like instead of going out and getting destroyed.

His skill and talent level is ready for NHL hockey. His body and his ability to avoid taking huge hits, however, make me second guess if he's truly ready for the NHL - especially the playoffs.

I'd honestly have him as #8 on the depth chart right now, if an injury or bad game occurs it should be MacDonald inserted into the lineup.

I guess we just see it differently, I see him as being able to handle it physically until proven otherwise. What suggests he can't take it? Is there a history of 19 year olds with injuries due to age? If he were 10 lbs heavier would that be enough, what is the threshold that quantifies his readyness? I just can't see reasoning for this logic personally.

Edit:
I don't recall him being overwhelmed physically this season but maybe I'm misremembering too. Obviously playoffs is big boy hockey but he has to cross that bridge sometime.

 

[dahrougem2]

I guess we just see it differently, I see him as being able to handle it physically until proven otherwise. What suggests he can't take it? Is there a history of 19 year olds with injuries due to age? If he were 10 lbs heavier would that be enough, what is the threshold that quantifies his readyness? I just can't see reasoning for this logic personally.

Edit:
I don't recall him being overwhelmed physically this season but maybe I'm misremembering too. Obviously playoffs is big boy hockey but he has to cross that bridge sometime.

The style of game he wants to play, he's going to have to get to at least 200 pounds IMO and right now he's not there. Byram doesn't do anything to avoid contact, he looks to absorb it. If that's going to be his game, he's going to need to get much stronger. Otherwise, players are going to target him and he's going to be out of the lineup all the time, whether that be due to concussions or due to other injuries.

 

[Avsfan1921]

The style of game he wants to play, he's going to have to get to at least 200 pounds IMO and right now he's not there. Byram doesn't do anything to avoid contact, he looks to absorb it. If that's going to be his game, he's going to need to get much stronger. Otherwise, players are going to target him and he's going to be out of the lineup all the time, whether that be due to concussions or due to other injuries.

Eh, size doesn't help EJ from getting injured every other game. Byram is listed at 190 right now, how does that extra 10 lbs over his 6'1" frame allow him substantially more opportunities to absorb a hit without injury? If he can't take a hit now, then it will be an issue moving forward and he will need to adjust his playstyle and not his stature IMO. I could see it if he was a featherweight but size isn't the concern IMO.

 

[Hornstar]

I don’t see him weighing 190. But I definitely think he’s nhl ready. Like others said, wait till next year. He’s gotta get a little better at dodging big hits along the boards

 

[Avsfan1921]

I don’t see him weighing 190. But I definitely think he’s nhl ready. Like others said, wait till next year. He’s gotta get a little better at dodging big hits along the boards

I guess one way to relay what I mean is this:

Say Byram played the season. He played well and is healthy. Would we want to scratch him for the playoffs to gain muscle or learn not to get hit even though he’s healthy?

In this scenario the only difference is the concussion. He was playing well leading up to his concussion and didn’t look out of place physically so why treat this any different than what it is? A player took a hit and got a concussion. He worked on getting healthy and is now (theoretically) cleared. If he’s a top six dman, play him.

 

[Nihiliste]

it's not that easy to figure out when someone is healthy or should be cleared from a concussion. he needs to reinvent his game to take less contact, the playoffs are not the time to do that

 

[Avsfan1921]

it's not that easy to figure out when someone is healthy or should be cleared from a concussion. he needs to reinvent his game to take less contact, the playoffs are not the time to do that

I agree on the condition being hard to call and if there is any question he should sit but I highly doubt he’s going to reinvent his game and shouldn’t be asked to because of one injury.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

I don't care if he thinks he's feeling ok, you shut Byram down for the rest of the playoffs. I don't want him touching NHL game ice until the start of the 2021-2022 season.

Make sure he's 100% right and then eased back into a lineup. Not thrust into the most physical hockey of the year after suffering for sure one but likely two concussions within a short amount of time.

I agree and would also state my hot-take that Byram has huge potential, but he hasn't adjusted to the NHL level yet, he didn't take to it like Makar did. He will, eventually, but I don't see the point risking his potential for the playoffs when he's just not ready yet.

 

[The Kingslayer]

When you're OK you don't need a tinted or a pink visor to help with light.

Ryan Graves has also been playing with a tint for awhile even before that elbow he took that one game. Not sure if he was concussed this season or not. I dont think he started the season with a tinted visor but hes been using one for awhile now.