Red Sox/MLB 2021 Hot Stove III - Jackie Bradley Jr. Signs w/ Brewers

[KrejciMVP]

Boston fans

Bruins lost one game this year in regulation and there were calls to radio for Sweeney to be fired and lots and lots of same here. Comical

At least they care, I'm glad fans care, aren't silent and speak up and demand accountability from an ownership group happy to raise prices on them. I guess we should all be quiet? No we don't owe John Henry anything being silent and not critisizing them.

 

[ON3M4N]

Bloom has me excited again.

I liked what I saw from Pivetta after bringing him in. Verdugo is a fun guy to watch and I love watching Dalbec hit.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I liked what I saw from Pivetta after bringing him in. Verdugo is a fun guy to watch and I love watching Dalbec hit.

His lower roster type moves are/have been interesting. The team sucked last season but I liked bringing in guys like Arroyo, Aruaz, Munoz, Grullon, etc. because as plenty here gave me great insight on the moves, it makes you see his plan. All low risk, possible upside plays. Maybe just one of these guys needed that chance to explode. When your team isn’t good, you can take a chance and see what happens. While doing this, he was clearing space, acquiring prospects and starting the revamp of the prospect pool.

 

[DKH]

I don't think it's Boston fans, per se. I see it as that ownership group talking out of both sides of their mouths, constantly smearing players and managers on their way out the door, spending wildly on garbage free agents while letting current key players walk over small amounts of money, and treating every fan as a walking wallet instead of a valued fan. It's just so disingenuous.

To me it’s 100% Boston fans

The ownership has made many mistakes but they all do

ask Lou about the Mets

 

[KrejciMVP]

To me it’s 100% Boston fans

The ownership has made many mistakes but they all do

ask Lou about the Mets

Boston fans are probably if not one of the most knowledgeable fan bases out there but ok. Can always talk sports with a Boston fan if you meet one and I'd rather watch a game them over a silver spoon fed owner like Henry

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

@OneManIsNoMan

This off-season, an interesting Sox move was claiming Garrett Whitlock off waivers from the Yankees.

“We’re really excited to land someone that we think has upside as a potential starter or, at a minimum, can assume some volume in a role either out of the ‘pen or as a starter,” said Red Sox VP of professional scouting Gus Quattlebaum. “We’re really excited to land him.”

Could be a situation where they want to see if he can stick this year so they can get him full on next year but if he doesn’t, they have no issues sending him back. A low risk, upside play.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Boston fans are probably if not one of the most knowledgeable fan bases out there but ok

Every fan base would say this about themselves though. I think we know our sports and people who really pay attention offer great insight. But let’s be real, we have a lot of awful and stupid fans. They know nothing about anything but are the loudest in the room. Sports media feeds them too.

 

[DKH]

At least they care, I'm glad fans care, aren't silent and speak up and demand accountability from an ownership group happy to raise prices on them. I guess we should all be quiet? No we don't owe John Henry anything being silent and not critisizing them.

Bruins fans care on HF

yet after rookie scrub Marchand took out Seidenberg in 2010 pre Prague early training camp that miffed Claude this place had a poll to trade him along with a first for the corpse that was Chris Drury.

it was overwhelming to get rid of Marchand

I used that thread as a weapon for years until it fell off a few years back

Lots of experts were all for that deal

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I don't think it's Boston fans, per se. I see it as that ownership group talking out of both sides of their mouths, constantly smearing players and managers on their way out the door, spending wildly on garbage free agents while letting current key players walk over small amounts of money, and treating every fan as a walking wallet instead of a valued fan. It's just so disingenuous.

I wonder how long it will be before they sell the team. They pulled so much out of the Fenway mystique I'm not sure how the building is still standing.

I'm waiting for the cardboard cutout that they filled the park with to go on sale. "own a piece of Fenway park" before they are gone ...

 

[DKH]

Boston fans are probably if not one of the most knowledgeable fan bases out there but ok. Can always talk sports with a Boston fan if you meet one and I'd rather watch a game them over a silver spoon fed owner like Henry

Not buying it

passionate yes knowledgeable no

I been listening to radio all morning and callers overall clueless

 

[Gator Mike]

Imagine how many World Series titles FSG would have if they "cared" about winning.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Not buying it

passionate yes knowledgeable no

Well Henry having a huge payroll that can out spend anyone besides NY makes his job pretty idiot proof and not some sort of baseball guru

 

[LSCII]

To me it’s 100% Boston fans

The ownership has made many mistakes but they all do

ask Lou about the Mets

I get the fans in this area are tough, but there's a special place in Hell for an ownership group that goes out of their way to leak that a long time, beloved manager, one who was here when they finally broke through and won it all, is labeled as a drug addicted, womanizing party machine anonymously through the media. That was out of line, even for these guys. Imagine in any other walk of life how hard it is for an employee to go to their boss and say I may have an issue with a prescription med that I take and I think I need to talk to someone. Only to have your employer turn around and use that publicly in an effort to justify their rid of you?

But sure Dan, it's all the fans....

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

Not buying it

passionate yes knowledgeable no

I been listening to radio all morning and callers overall clueless

There are morons in every fanbase and sports radio is the first place to look for them.

 

[DKH]

At least they care, I'm glad fans care, aren't silent and speak up and demand accountability from an ownership group happy to raise prices on them. I guess we should all be quiet? No we don't owe John Henry anything being silent and not critisizing them.

Boston fans demanding accountability is Mookie Betts & 4 other top prospects for Giancarlo Stanton 5 years ago

or Betts & for Phillies lefty starter Hamels

fans demanding they sign Josh Hamilton after Angels gave him 5/150 and instead of 3/39 Drew Napoli Victorino etc

go check HF Boston 2016 ?day Hall traded for Larsson

people here wanted to trade Pastrnak for Trouba; McAvoy + for Trouba

of course neither had popped yet but

 

[DKH]

I get the fans in this area are tough, but there's a special place in Hell for an ownership group that goes out of their way to leak that a long time, beloved manager, one who was here when they finally broke through and won it all, is labeled as a drug addicted, womanizing party machine anonymously through the media. That was out of line, even for these guys. Imagine in any other walk of life how hard it is for an employee to go to their boss and say I may have an issue with a prescription med that I take and I think I need to talk to someone. Only to have your employer turn around and use that publicly in an effort to justify their rid of you?

But sure Dan, it's all the fans....

80% not all

also wasn’t that Theo who was the source ?

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Well Henry having a huge payroll that can out spend anyone besides NY makes his job pretty idiot proof and not some sort of baseball guru

Most manager/gm bosses in sports would survive a year in the real world if they had to manage a small business. If I'm looking for smart business men, the sports world is the last place I'm looking. Let along listen to some idiot radio clown sport show hosts.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Boston fans demanding accountability is Mookie Betts & 4 other top prospects for Giancarlo Stanton 5 years ago

or Betts & for Phillies lefty starter Hamels

fans demanding they sign Josh Hamilton after Angels gave him 5/150 and instead of 3/39 Drew Napoli Victorino etc

go check HF Boston 2016 ?day Hall traded for Larsson

people here wanted to trade Pastrnak for Trouba; McAvoy + for Trouba

of course neither had popped yet but

People also preached the legend of Danton Heinen for a year but I'm not judging

 

[DKH]

People also preached the legend of Danton Heinen for a year but I'm not judging

I’m texting Joe telling him you dissed him that may get him back here lol

 

[McGarnagle]

So here's the thing that people seem to not really understand:

MLB's structural financial changes in the last couple CBAs have made these cycles nearly inevitable.

Baseball was way more fun in the early 2000s when it was the wild west and major market teams were signing everyone in an arms race while the Rays and Expos were a broken hot water heater away from having to fold. But everyone whined that the rules weren't egalitarian enough and that the Yankees are buying championships, so for the sake of parity and competitive balance Selig caved in and the 2012 and 2016 CBAs radically strengthened the luxury tax penalties after the 2nd and 3rd consecutive years of surpassing the threshold. So major market teams are going to have reset years. The Yankees had a dry spell from 2012-2016 as they had to reset and rebuild. The Tigers spent to the moon then bottomed out after 2015. The Cubs went absolutely insane with the checkbooks after Theo got there culminating in 2016-2017 then a quick dip back down to earth.

It is what it is. The only team that has gotten around it is the Dodgers, partially because Magic Johnson didn't seem to care at first and let them pass the luxury tax for like 5 years in a row starting in 2012, but mostly because Friedman put together a really quality well-rounded roster of players who can take multiple positions and are efficient without being extremely overpriced. But they've had to trim along the way and have farmhands who can step in and take those roles. They're going to have to have a reckoning next year and probably will have to see Kershaw walk since they're coming up on Bellinger's arbitration year. That's the model that Bloom seems to be trying to emulate in Boston, which is going to take time to put into practice considering what Dombrowski left behind.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I’m texting Joe telling him you dissed him that may get him back here lol

I admit I was will Middlebrooks fan not too long ago

 

[Johnnyduke]

Mazz losing his ****

 

[CDJ]

Most manager/gm bosses in sports would survive a year in the real world if they had to manage a small business. If I'm looking for smart business men, the sports world is the last place I'm looking. Let along listen to some idiot radio clown sport show hosts.

Maybe that’s the case with a lot of other sports but a lot of these new-age baseball guys have law/analytics/business backgrounds from Ivy League schools.

 

[CDJ]

Mazz losing his ****

It is a day that ends in Y after all

He was complaining about how Benintendi sucks as recently as August, I have a hard time taking him seriously

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Could part of the PTBNL return be dependent on how well Benintendi plays this year?