Red Sox/MLB 2021 Hot Stove II - RIP: Hank Aaron

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Kansas City was a big mess and eventually had a big ripple effect on further movement. Johnson never wanted to keep them there for the long term, in his mind KC was a temporary home until they could get approval to start west coast baseball and get into LA. But the Dodgers beat him to the punch since they were able to convince the Giants to go west with them. Then when he died and Finley took over the team, he shopped it to every city in the country to the consternation of the American League. Kansas City approved bonds to built a new stadium for them right before he moved to Oakland and the league tried to pacify Missouri by promising them a spot in their next expansion class of 1971 along with Seattle. But Senator Symington pulled out the big guns and threatened to revoke MLB's antitrust exceptions unless they moved it up to 1969.

The Royals made out alright on the deal, but the other expansion team, the Seattle Pilots, got screwed over - the 1971 start date gave them 3 years to do the necessary renovations on the existing minor league stadium and to market the coming team. Pushing it up 2 years caught them completely unprepared to host major league ball, the stadium was a disaster, they were unable to draw, and were bankrupt by the end of the year. In spring training of the 1970 season, Bud Selig swooped in to buy out the owners and move them to his hometown of Milwaukee, which recently lost the Braves to Atlanta. The reason the Brewers wear blue and yellow as their primary colors is because they had to take the Pilots' uniforms and strip the Seattle wordmark off the front and sew on a Milwaukee one. Supposedly if they had time to design it Selig wanted them to wear red and navy like the Braves. But they legit moved the team halfway through spring training that year, so there was no time to change it.

It is important to remember that back then each league was a separate entity.

The AL owners could not agree on much except they all hated Bill Veeck.

Veeck wanted to move the St. Louis Browns to Milwaukee and was blocked which then opened the door for Lou Perini to leave Boston which came with NO warning during spring training.

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The AL then allowed the Browns to go to Baltimore BUT Veeck had to sell.

10 years ago the PBS station in Milwaukee did a one-hour special on franchise moves.



Curiously the demise of the Milwaukee Braves could be traced from the decision that fans had to buy beer from concession stands instead of BYOB - BTW who ran the concessions in Milwaukee? Some guy named Louis Jacobs from Buffalo.


The Braves move and sudden success at the gate was the catalyst for O'Malley to leave Brooklyn if he could not get a ballpark in NYC. Robert Moses decided the Dodgers could get their new park but in QUEENS where Shea Stadium was built. O'Malley convinced the Giants to move to San Francisco instead of them moving to Queens. If the Giants had stayed in NY the backup plan was for either the Pirates, Reds OR the Cubs to go west.

The worst move was Washington moving to Minnesota and then giving Washington an expansion team in 1961. The Senators owner was quite blunt on why he wanted to move to Minnesota saying the demographics were better.
 
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Danny Santana non tendered. That ones interesting to me.

Nomar Mazara as well although he’s looking like a real bust at this point
 

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Whoah David Dahl non tendered. Never can stay healthy but big potential

his defense going backwards concerns me

honestly not all that interested in a lot of the bigger non-tenders. I’d be interested in a reliever like Archie Bradley. Maybe take some chances on guys like Middleton and Knebel
 
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his defense going backwards concerns me

honestly not all that interested in a lot of the bigger non-tenders. I’d be interested in a reliever like Archie Bradley. Maybe take some chances on guys like Middleton and Knebel

Still can’t believe he was just non tendered. But it’s the Rockies so...

I would absolutely take a shot at Bradley
 
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Step one: Trade Mookie and Price to get under luxury tax for 2021
Step two: Unleash global pandemic that causes economic problems across the league
Step three: Use luxury tax space and abundance of cash to sign up all the small-mid market teams' nontenders that they can't afford to resign
Step four: Back in the playoffs

Chaim Bloom is on another level.
 
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