DoubleK81
It's always something with these pricks.
The Athletic article referenced earlier stated he's been working with Ott, makes sense as Otter was always a good FO guy, almost 55% for his career.
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Renard
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I'm amazed that this personal information is available on a website. Thanks for posting.
So I am still puzzled that we can't call up Perunovich for cap reasons. If he played in four games, no matter how well, it would only help him get to the 42 game threshold.
Renard
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Renard
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I'm now in my 70s and don't take hockey nearly as seriously as I once did.
I would rather see us win than lose, but I try to find something good from a game, even a loss.
Last night's game was a loss, against Carolina. I was pretty impressed with a 21 year old goalie playing on the road against a good team. A 21 year old with only one NHL game under his belt. He looked pretty calm, even thou his defense wasn't rock solid.
Is there room for him on our roster in the NHL? Is he valuable trade bait?
Is Rosen going to be an NHL regular? There is certainly room for one on our roster if Walman and Mikkola don't come thru. We have seem some good and bad in Rosen but more good than bad in my opinion. But Mikkola was a plus 3 in his last game before his being sent to COVID. purgatory.
I would rather see us win than lose, but I try to find something good from a game, even a loss.
Last night's game was a loss, against Carolina. I was pretty impressed with a 21 year old goalie playing on the road against a good team. A 21 year old with only one NHL game under his belt. He looked pretty calm, even thou his defense wasn't rock solid.
Is there room for him on our roster in the NHL? Is he valuable trade bait?
Is Rosen going to be an NHL regular? There is certainly room for one on our roster if Walman and Mikkola don't come thru. We have seem some good and bad in Rosen but more good than bad in my opinion. But Mikkola was a plus 3 in his last game before his being sent to COVID. purgatory.
You've referenced the salary cap situation, and I'm a little confused about it too. The bottom line is that it looks like Armstrong will need to make a move (or the LTIR fates will make one for us when someone gets an injury) to give the flexibility for Sundqvist and Perunovich to be added to this roster. It think that will probably seal Rosen's fate. I haven't been particularly impressed with him, but if his competition is Mikkola and Walman he is holding his own.
Renard
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I looked it up and the maximum salary on an entry level contract is 925,000. The entry level contract is a two-way, three year deal.
I'm shocked that an untested rookie can make that much as a base salary.
I'm shocked that an untested rookie can make that much as a base salary.
Minimum contract is what, $750k? Aside from bonuses the top rookies make only a bit more than minimum.
Majorityof1
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He signed the contract coming out of college. Most prospects sign earlier while in juniors. College kids cannot sign until they are ready to enter the league. So he was more tested than the average rookie. He won the Hobey Baker. He also had the option to play one more year of college and then be a free agent. He had a lot more bargaining power than your average 2nd rounder.
Also, the untested rookies only make that much if they make the NHL team and play all year on the NHL team. Being a 2-way contract, they get much less in the AHL. If you are good enough to play all year on an ELC in the NHL, then you are a fairly special player (or play for a bad team).
Brockon
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It's not personal information, it's league performance bonus generics. I don't have the exact specifics of Perunovich's contract - but it has to fit within the allowable league perameters for performance bonuses which follow an established structure.
The cap hit, AAV and salary are all independent considerations. Don't ask me how capfriendly gets these details - because they have most player specifics if you understand the particulars of a player page on their platform Scott Perunovich Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
Edit: specifically, Perunovich holds a higher cap hit than Rosen by 175k/season. We don't have the space for Perunovich. I won't pretend to understand the ins and outs of daily pro-rated cap gymnastics and how LTIR relief ties in, but I believe that you can't bank spare cap space when using LTIR... When we stop using that, paper moves can be made to bank extra space for later in the season, which will allow us to call up Perunovich.
Brockon
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Probably worth a mention that Thomas is also hovering near a PPG scoring rate too...
Accounting for the secondary assist in the Oilers game right now - he's sitting at 14gp 1g-12a-13p. This marks his 100th career point in 183gp.
Edit: as of the end of tonight's loss he's 1-14-15 in 14gp. Really excited to see if he can produce over a 60 point season this year, as I don't think he keeps the ice time to maintain a PPG scoring rate when everyone is healthy over the course of a full season.
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Brockon
Cautiously optimistic realist when caffeinated.
If he's an 80 point player this season for us, I don't think anyone is going to complain about his goal/assist ratio.
You've got to believe that means he's played with Tarasenko producing a 30-40 goal season and his other winger has put up 10-20 goals for 40-50 of the 70 assists (other goals by dmen or PP unit guys not regularly on the ice with Thomas).
I'd be happy to see Thomas set a new career high with 60+ points - as I don't think he keeps the ice time to maintain a PPG scoring rate when everyone is healthy (specifically Schenn's return pushing Thomas down to the "3rd" line with heavy PP duties).
Edit: Schenn was hurt during the first in the San Jose game Nov 5th. Since then Thomas has put up 1g-8a-9p in 5.66 games. I've got to believe at least part of that is due to some increased ice time being available (which isn't the whole story, because Thomas was seeing 20+ mins of ice time in games before Schenn was injured - but now it's happening more often).
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Majorityof1
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We are in a 3 way tie right now for the wild card spots with a game in hand, barely a playoff team. It's less than 20%of the way through the season, we shouldn't jump to too many conclusions. However, I have insomnia and am bored, so I am going to break down how I think every player has done compared to expectations. Expectations are based on role/cap hit. Evaluation is based on a combination of advanced stats and the eye test. Please, feel free to comment. I am hoping this is a jumping off point for some productive discussions about players performance vs expectations.
I'll probably make it 4 posts (Greatly exceeds, Exceeds, Fine, and needs improvement). Most stats are /60 and 5v5 unless noted. Most ranks for D are among D and for forwards are among all skaters unless noted.
Great - Exceeding expectations by a good margin.
Kyrou ($2.8M, 3.3%, middle-6 W, high-potential youth) - Kyrou has been great this year. He has definitely exceeded his cap hit and has met the highest expectations. He is over a point per game, leading the team in points and ppg. He is 2nd in both g(tied) and assists. Defensively he is middle of the pack in xGA.60, CA/60, but he is doing really well in SCA, HDCA, and especially GA/60. He is 2nd best on the team in the latter. So he is both putting up points but also limiting it. From the eye test, he is just fun to watch offensively. But the thing that has impressed me most since he entered the league last year is his defense and puck battles. He uses his speed on the back check really, really well and fights on the boards for possession insanely well for his size. I was very worried about both before he entered the league and he has done nothing but impress there.
Thomas ($2.8M, 3.3%, middle-6 C, high-potential youth) - Neck in Neck with Kyrou. He is #2 in points and ppg. He leads in assists by a good margin. Here is the surprise: he leads all forwards in TOI/game, 2 seconds more the O'Reilly. So he has impressed the coaches as well. On the defensive end, his stats are not as rosy as Kyrou's. However, I would put that down to usage as much as Thomas being bad. While O'Reilly was used against Drai last night, Thomas was out against McDavid. So he has been the #2 defensive Center with Schenn out. But the numbers are poor, and that is the area he needs to work on given a 56% Ozone start rate and a sub 50% xGF%. Offensively though, the kid is a wizard with the puck, being 2nd on the team in HDCF to Buchnevich, who get to play with both our young wizards.
Tarasenko ($7.5M, 9%, top-6 W, coming off-injury wanting a trade) - I am loathe to say a former 40G scorer who makes $7.5M can ever greatly exceed expectations without putting up 60G, 100p. Tarasenko is on pace for 41g, 82a. So about what you'd expect from prime Tarasenko. However, coming off of a couple injury riddled seasons, I am going to say this greatly exceeds most people's expectations. The most impressive thing to me is he is doing this without having his shot back. I don't think he has beaten a goalie cleanly with a shot aside from his breakaway goal. Most of his goals are coming by just wanting it more and being strong on his skates. If that effort continues and his shot comes back.....watch the f*** out. Like Thomas, his advance stats defensively aren't great. Unlike Thomas, I put some of that on him. He has made some lazy plays defensively, although no where near as much as his prime. He is just not a great defensive player. That's not why you pay him. The offense is enough for me to be happy with his play relative to expectations.
Barbashev ($2.25M, 2.7%, bottom-6 C/W) - He's 5th on the team in points, tied for 4th in Gs, 7th in +/-, playing in the top 9. He's on pace to break 50 points. All this from a guy that was described in the off-season as "the definition of a replacement level player". I don't think much else needs to be said. Stapled a lot to Tarasenko and Thomas, his defensive advanced stats can be improved. They give up a lot of HD chances and hence have pretty bad xGA numbers. But his defensive numbers are much better than the other two guys, so he has a positive defensive effect on their numbers looking at wowy. I'd still like this entire line to be much better defensively given how many O-zone starts it gets. He is doing well on the PK, leading all forwards in PK ice time per game on a unit doing well as a whole.
I'll probably make it 4 posts (Greatly exceeds, Exceeds, Fine, and needs improvement). Most stats are /60 and 5v5 unless noted. Most ranks for D are among D and for forwards are among all skaters unless noted.
Great - Exceeding expectations by a good margin.
Kyrou ($2.8M, 3.3%, middle-6 W, high-potential youth) - Kyrou has been great this year. He has definitely exceeded his cap hit and has met the highest expectations. He is over a point per game, leading the team in points and ppg. He is 2nd in both g(tied) and assists. Defensively he is middle of the pack in xGA.60, CA/60, but he is doing really well in SCA, HDCA, and especially GA/60. He is 2nd best on the team in the latter. So he is both putting up points but also limiting it. From the eye test, he is just fun to watch offensively. But the thing that has impressed me most since he entered the league last year is his defense and puck battles. He uses his speed on the back check really, really well and fights on the boards for possession insanely well for his size. I was very worried about both before he entered the league and he has done nothing but impress there.
Thomas ($2.8M, 3.3%, middle-6 C, high-potential youth) - Neck in Neck with Kyrou. He is #2 in points and ppg. He leads in assists by a good margin. Here is the surprise: he leads all forwards in TOI/game, 2 seconds more the O'Reilly. So he has impressed the coaches as well. On the defensive end, his stats are not as rosy as Kyrou's. However, I would put that down to usage as much as Thomas being bad. While O'Reilly was used against Drai last night, Thomas was out against McDavid. So he has been the #2 defensive Center with Schenn out. But the numbers are poor, and that is the area he needs to work on given a 56% Ozone start rate and a sub 50% xGF%. Offensively though, the kid is a wizard with the puck, being 2nd on the team in HDCF to Buchnevich, who get to play with both our young wizards.
Tarasenko ($7.5M, 9%, top-6 W, coming off-injury wanting a trade) - I am loathe to say a former 40G scorer who makes $7.5M can ever greatly exceed expectations without putting up 60G, 100p. Tarasenko is on pace for 41g, 82a. So about what you'd expect from prime Tarasenko. However, coming off of a couple injury riddled seasons, I am going to say this greatly exceeds most people's expectations. The most impressive thing to me is he is doing this without having his shot back. I don't think he has beaten a goalie cleanly with a shot aside from his breakaway goal. Most of his goals are coming by just wanting it more and being strong on his skates. If that effort continues and his shot comes back.....watch the f*** out. Like Thomas, his advance stats defensively aren't great. Unlike Thomas, I put some of that on him. He has made some lazy plays defensively, although no where near as much as his prime. He is just not a great defensive player. That's not why you pay him. The offense is enough for me to be happy with his play relative to expectations.
Barbashev ($2.25M, 2.7%, bottom-6 C/W) - He's 5th on the team in points, tied for 4th in Gs, 7th in +/-, playing in the top 9. He's on pace to break 50 points. All this from a guy that was described in the off-season as "the definition of a replacement level player". I don't think much else needs to be said. Stapled a lot to Tarasenko and Thomas, his defensive advanced stats can be improved. They give up a lot of HD chances and hence have pretty bad xGA numbers. But his defensive numbers are much better than the other two guys, so he has a positive defensive effect on their numbers looking at wowy. I'd still like this entire line to be much better defensively given how many O-zone starts it gets. He is doing well on the PK, leading all forwards in PK ice time per game on a unit doing well as a whole.
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Majorityof1
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Part 2 of 4
Exceeding Expectations
Buchnevich ($5.8M, 6.9%, top 6 W, new team) – His actual point production is about in line with what you’d expect given his role/cap hit. He’s tied for 6th in points. He is on pace for 54 points. His AAV is 87th among forwards in the NHL, and his .66 point pace would have put him around 103rd last year. So its actually a bit worse. He also head butted a guy missing two games. I don’t count injuries against in this analysis, but I do count headbutts. Still, taking into account having to adjust to a new team, being good on the PK, and getting great defensive results, he is getting exceeds expectations. At 5v5 he has been on ice for a ridiculously small .4 GA/60. That is less than half as much as the #2 best on the team. Sick. I can’t credit it all to him, but he is a really good defensive winger. I almost want to bump him up a tier looking at that number.
Schenn ($6.5M, 7.8%, top 6 C) – See Buchnevich. Same point per game numbers, similar cap hit and role. Same analysis. Schenn’s defense has been good but not that good, as he is only 3rd best GA/60 with a relatively pedestrian 1.03. But he hits, fights and is a leader. I’d ideally want a little more offensively, but he is producing about how he should and giving us those intangibles.
Rosen ($750k, 0.9%, AHL depth) – See my comment in the Rosen thread.
Krug ($6.5M, 7.8%, Top 4 D) - 8 points in 9 games for a 72 point pace. Our offense has struggled to get the puck into the zone at times without him, especially on the PP. Offensively he is exceeding expectations. Defensively it’s a bit harder to analyze, but we don’t exactly pay him for defense. So to that aspect, he is doing his job regardless of the rest of it. His underlying defensive stats have been bad giving up a lot of xGAand HDCA. Howvever, he has benefitted from good goaltending so his actual GA is not that bad. He also generates a ton chances so all of his % numbers are decent. I think his stats have also benefitted from getting sick when our schedule got a bit harder, and the team took a bit of a dive. I am going against my bias here and bumping him up from where my gut says he should be.
Exceeding Expectations
Buchnevich ($5.8M, 6.9%, top 6 W, new team) – His actual point production is about in line with what you’d expect given his role/cap hit. He’s tied for 6th in points. He is on pace for 54 points. His AAV is 87th among forwards in the NHL, and his .66 point pace would have put him around 103rd last year. So its actually a bit worse. He also head butted a guy missing two games. I don’t count injuries against in this analysis, but I do count headbutts. Still, taking into account having to adjust to a new team, being good on the PK, and getting great defensive results, he is getting exceeds expectations. At 5v5 he has been on ice for a ridiculously small .4 GA/60. That is less than half as much as the #2 best on the team. Sick. I can’t credit it all to him, but he is a really good defensive winger. I almost want to bump him up a tier looking at that number.
Schenn ($6.5M, 7.8%, top 6 C) – See Buchnevich. Same point per game numbers, similar cap hit and role. Same analysis. Schenn’s defense has been good but not that good, as he is only 3rd best GA/60 with a relatively pedestrian 1.03. But he hits, fights and is a leader. I’d ideally want a little more offensively, but he is producing about how he should and giving us those intangibles.
Rosen ($750k, 0.9%, AHL depth) – See my comment in the Rosen thread.
Krug ($6.5M, 7.8%, Top 4 D) - 8 points in 9 games for a 72 point pace. Our offense has struggled to get the puck into the zone at times without him, especially on the PP. Offensively he is exceeding expectations. Defensively it’s a bit harder to analyze, but we don’t exactly pay him for defense. So to that aspect, he is doing his job regardless of the rest of it. His underlying defensive stats have been bad giving up a lot of xGAand HDCA. Howvever, he has benefitted from good goaltending so his actual GA is not that bad. He also generates a ton chances so all of his % numbers are decent. I think his stats have also benefitted from getting sick when our schedule got a bit harder, and the team took a bit of a dive. I am going against my bias here and bumping him up from where my gut says he should be.
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Majorityof1
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Part 3 of 4
Fine (Either meeting expectations or mixed bags that average out to fine)
Faulk ($6.5M, 7.8%, Top 4 D) – I am on record of not liking Faulk, I especially don’t like his contract, and hate how we acquired him when we had 2 better RHD. All that said, he has been ok this year. He is on pace for 30 points, which is a bit less than his career average. Like Krug, his defensive game is a bit harder to parse. He has a good GA/60 leading all D, but his xGA/60 is bad. He is right amongst our worst D in HDCA/60. He has benefitted from a ridiculous save percentage. I don’t know if that is because he is doing good work cleaning rebounds, blocking shots, etc, but the high xGA/60 leads me to say not. My eye test has shown him to be about 50/50 on bad plays/good plays. So I think the stats are a bit misleading on both sides and he has been fine. Also like Krug, bumping him up a tier to account for my bias against him.
Scandella ($3.275, 3,9%, 4th D) – We have to set our expectations on this one. Scandella is paid like a 4th D. His skill set is that of a 4th D. He is due to roster construction getting ridiculously heavy defensive minutes that a 4th D probably should never see. Just keep that in mind because the advanced stats aren’t pretty. He is getting caved for worst CA/60, and worst xGA/60. However, he is better than Krug and Faulk in SCA/60 and HDCA/60. He is significantly better than his partner Parayko in GA/60. Parayko struggles to keep the puck out when paired with anyone else in that usage. Really, Scandella is just treading water but given the ridiculous ask we have given him, that is enough.
Bortuzzo ($1.375M, 1.6%, Bottom pair D) – Good old Bortuzzo. He gets plays adequate defense, plays physical takes dumb penalties and gets a goal a year. He’s got his goal and is keeping his PIMs down this year. So that is good. His defense has also been pretty good. 2nd in xGA, 3rd in GA/60. Pretty middle of the road. He could probably be exceeds expectations due to the low PIMs and good defensive stats relative to his cap hit. But part of that is his low minutes. Its hard to do much good or bad in his minutes.
Walman ($725k, 0.9%, 6th D) – Ok,let’s set expectations again. He is the 6th D on a team that spends over a quarter of the cap on its top 4. We lost and did not replace our #5D last year. We spent the money on forwards instead. He makes less NHL salary than our #9 D Rosen. He is #3 among D in xGA and # 2 in actual GA. He makes some bone headed plays that cost us and more that luckily don’t. So he is only meets expectations. But what more can you expect from a guy who should be at best a #7D making less than 1% of the cap.
Saad ($4.5M, 5.3%, Top 9W) – He’s been middle of the road, which is fine for his salary and role. He is scoring at a 40 point pace. He got lucky on a couple goals I think the goalie wants back. I haven’t been super impressed with his offense really. Covid is probably a factor as he missed some games. But unlike ROR, he came back fine putting up 3 points in 3 games right after. It is the 5 games after that where he has been pointless. He is also bottom 3rd of the team in xGA/60, so he isn’t really lighting it up defensively to make up for the goal drought.
Bozak ($750k, 0.9%, bottom 6 C/W, vet on a hometown discount) – Let’s start the expectations being out of line with salary train here (more in the next post). It may be unfair but Bozak was signed with the intention of him being a middle 6, $3-4M player we can get cheap and be great depth. His bonuses put him closer to Barbashev’s deal than Kostin’s, so that is the standard he should be judged. Offensively he has been at or a little above those expectations putting up a 34 point pace. But defensively he is another guy that’s hard to account for. He is 3rd worst in GA/60 (50+ minutes), but he is close to the top in xGA/60. With the eye test as the tie-breaker, I’d say he has been more good than bad with some bad luck. He is right there for me to be bumped up to exceeds expectations. But the raised expectations relative to salary and the poor actual GA numbers keep him here. Top of this tier though.
Neal ($750k, 0.9%, bottom 6 C/W, vet on a discount) – Unlike Bozak, he doesn’t have the bonuses. He is still former 30 goal guy who shouldn’t be completely washed up yet. So his expectations are a little higher than your average $750k guy. He’s putting up a 25 point pace. You’d hope for more but can’t complain too much for the price. But defensively he has definitely exceeded expectations. He is near the top of both GA and xGA/60 while getting heavier D zone starts than RoR. I am dinging him for the offense while he is on the ice. He has 4 points but only 3 goals while he was on the ice 5v5. So he is still a -1 despite the good defense.
Kostin ($863k, 1%, Bottom 6, rookie) – He’s hit a lot. That is his best contribution. 19.5 hits/50. Almost double Bortuzzo. He’s also putting pucks on net, being 2nd in the team in iCF/60 and 9th in iHDCF/60. Those haven’t resulted in a ton of points being on pace with Neal for 25 point pace. Likewise the hits haven’t translated to great D, being in the bottom 3rd of the team in GA and xGA per 60. Still he is out there working, trying and learning. We can only hope that it all comes together eventually. As a rookie with a bit of a rocky development path, I put that in line with expectations. We all hope he improves, but the team will be fine if he doesn’t.
Fine (Either meeting expectations or mixed bags that average out to fine)
Faulk ($6.5M, 7.8%, Top 4 D) – I am on record of not liking Faulk, I especially don’t like his contract, and hate how we acquired him when we had 2 better RHD. All that said, he has been ok this year. He is on pace for 30 points, which is a bit less than his career average. Like Krug, his defensive game is a bit harder to parse. He has a good GA/60 leading all D, but his xGA/60 is bad. He is right amongst our worst D in HDCA/60. He has benefitted from a ridiculous save percentage. I don’t know if that is because he is doing good work cleaning rebounds, blocking shots, etc, but the high xGA/60 leads me to say not. My eye test has shown him to be about 50/50 on bad plays/good plays. So I think the stats are a bit misleading on both sides and he has been fine. Also like Krug, bumping him up a tier to account for my bias against him.
Scandella ($3.275, 3,9%, 4th D) – We have to set our expectations on this one. Scandella is paid like a 4th D. His skill set is that of a 4th D. He is due to roster construction getting ridiculously heavy defensive minutes that a 4th D probably should never see. Just keep that in mind because the advanced stats aren’t pretty. He is getting caved for worst CA/60, and worst xGA/60. However, he is better than Krug and Faulk in SCA/60 and HDCA/60. He is significantly better than his partner Parayko in GA/60. Parayko struggles to keep the puck out when paired with anyone else in that usage. Really, Scandella is just treading water but given the ridiculous ask we have given him, that is enough.
Bortuzzo ($1.375M, 1.6%, Bottom pair D) – Good old Bortuzzo. He gets plays adequate defense, plays physical takes dumb penalties and gets a goal a year. He’s got his goal and is keeping his PIMs down this year. So that is good. His defense has also been pretty good. 2nd in xGA, 3rd in GA/60. Pretty middle of the road. He could probably be exceeds expectations due to the low PIMs and good defensive stats relative to his cap hit. But part of that is his low minutes. Its hard to do much good or bad in his minutes.
Walman ($725k, 0.9%, 6th D) – Ok,let’s set expectations again. He is the 6th D on a team that spends over a quarter of the cap on its top 4. We lost and did not replace our #5D last year. We spent the money on forwards instead. He makes less NHL salary than our #9 D Rosen. He is #3 among D in xGA and # 2 in actual GA. He makes some bone headed plays that cost us and more that luckily don’t. So he is only meets expectations. But what more can you expect from a guy who should be at best a #7D making less than 1% of the cap.
Saad ($4.5M, 5.3%, Top 9W) – He’s been middle of the road, which is fine for his salary and role. He is scoring at a 40 point pace. He got lucky on a couple goals I think the goalie wants back. I haven’t been super impressed with his offense really. Covid is probably a factor as he missed some games. But unlike ROR, he came back fine putting up 3 points in 3 games right after. It is the 5 games after that where he has been pointless. He is also bottom 3rd of the team in xGA/60, so he isn’t really lighting it up defensively to make up for the goal drought.
Bozak ($750k, 0.9%, bottom 6 C/W, vet on a hometown discount) – Let’s start the expectations being out of line with salary train here (more in the next post). It may be unfair but Bozak was signed with the intention of him being a middle 6, $3-4M player we can get cheap and be great depth. His bonuses put him closer to Barbashev’s deal than Kostin’s, so that is the standard he should be judged. Offensively he has been at or a little above those expectations putting up a 34 point pace. But defensively he is another guy that’s hard to account for. He is 3rd worst in GA/60 (50+ minutes), but he is close to the top in xGA/60. With the eye test as the tie-breaker, I’d say he has been more good than bad with some bad luck. He is right there for me to be bumped up to exceeds expectations. But the raised expectations relative to salary and the poor actual GA numbers keep him here. Top of this tier though.
Neal ($750k, 0.9%, bottom 6 C/W, vet on a discount) – Unlike Bozak, he doesn’t have the bonuses. He is still former 30 goal guy who shouldn’t be completely washed up yet. So his expectations are a little higher than your average $750k guy. He’s putting up a 25 point pace. You’d hope for more but can’t complain too much for the price. But defensively he has definitely exceeded expectations. He is near the top of both GA and xGA/60 while getting heavier D zone starts than RoR. I am dinging him for the offense while he is on the ice. He has 4 points but only 3 goals while he was on the ice 5v5. So he is still a -1 despite the good defense.
Kostin ($863k, 1%, Bottom 6, rookie) – He’s hit a lot. That is his best contribution. 19.5 hits/50. Almost double Bortuzzo. He’s also putting pucks on net, being 2nd in the team in iCF/60 and 9th in iHDCF/60. Those haven’t resulted in a ton of points being on pace with Neal for 25 point pace. Likewise the hits haven’t translated to great D, being in the bottom 3rd of the team in GA and xGA per 60. Still he is out there working, trying and learning. We can only hope that it all comes together eventually. As a rookie with a bit of a rocky development path, I put that in line with expectations. We all hope he improves, but the team will be fine if he doesn’t.
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Majorityof1
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Part 4 of 4
Needs to be better
Parayko ($6.5M, 7.8%, Top 4 D) – Incoming patently unfair analysis. Parayko makes just as much as Krug and Faulk. He gets the same deployment as Scandella. I have given everyone the benefit of the doubt because of it. I do not give it to Parayko. I do not give it to Parayko because our defense doesn’t work with him being less than a #1 D. And he has the potential to be a #1 D. He needs to play much more aggressive. I don’t care about his offense, at all. He’s on pace for 40 points and leads all non-Krug D. That's fine. But his job is to shut down the other team. His GA/60 at 5v5 is the worst on the team at 3.31. It is .65 worse than the next worse D with over 100 minutes. We cannot blame his partners. He has made several mistakes leading to goals. He has been far too soft in the D zone. He needs to be aggressive and challenge shooters more. Its totally unfair to ask him to be better. He is not getting paid like it, but he is one of the faces of the franchise, the 2nd most important player on the team (possibly the most), If he doesn’t play like a stud, we don’t go anywhere.
O’Reilly (($7.5M, 9%, #1C, Captain and face of the franchise) – If PArayko is the #2 most important player, ROR is #1. Again, this is patently unfair to put so much on ROR when Tarasenko makes just as much money. But he is a more important player and needs to be great for us to succeed. As evidence, we started losing when he got sick from Covid. He hasn’t come back to form and neither have we. Even without expectations, he is only on a 41 point pace. He is getting his ice time cut from his normal. He is middle of the road in defensive stats with a sub 50% xgf%. That is not the 70 point Selke ROR that led us to the cup. Now I am sure Covid is to blame. He was ppg and a +3 in 5 games before and is 0 points and a -2 in the 5 games after. But he if he is not 100%, maybe he needs to rest up and get there. Because we need him to be his best.
Perron ($4M, 4.8%, Top line W) – OK, let’s just get ridiculously unfair now. Perronis 4th on the team in points on a 70 point pace making $4M and I’m saying he needs to be better. “WTF?!?! Why did I just read the novel this fool has written?”. We’ve grown to expect a lot more from Perron than what we pay him. He is a 70 point player. Since ROR got sick he is a ghost. He went from 8 points, +2 in 5 games to 4 points and a -3 in the next 9. Those 4 points were all assists and only 1 was primary. His defensive stats are all middle of the road like ROR. He is our #1 Winger now, and we need him to play like it. I am sure he will when ROR gets back up to speed. This really shows how much his success has been due to their chemistry.
Needs to be better
Parayko ($6.5M, 7.8%, Top 4 D) – Incoming patently unfair analysis. Parayko makes just as much as Krug and Faulk. He gets the same deployment as Scandella. I have given everyone the benefit of the doubt because of it. I do not give it to Parayko. I do not give it to Parayko because our defense doesn’t work with him being less than a #1 D. And he has the potential to be a #1 D. He needs to play much more aggressive. I don’t care about his offense, at all. He’s on pace for 40 points and leads all non-Krug D. That's fine. But his job is to shut down the other team. His GA/60 at 5v5 is the worst on the team at 3.31. It is .65 worse than the next worse D with over 100 minutes. We cannot blame his partners. He has made several mistakes leading to goals. He has been far too soft in the D zone. He needs to be aggressive and challenge shooters more. Its totally unfair to ask him to be better. He is not getting paid like it, but he is one of the faces of the franchise, the 2nd most important player on the team (possibly the most), If he doesn’t play like a stud, we don’t go anywhere.
O’Reilly (($7.5M, 9%, #1C, Captain and face of the franchise) – If PArayko is the #2 most important player, ROR is #1. Again, this is patently unfair to put so much on ROR when Tarasenko makes just as much money. But he is a more important player and needs to be great for us to succeed. As evidence, we started losing when he got sick from Covid. He hasn’t come back to form and neither have we. Even without expectations, he is only on a 41 point pace. He is getting his ice time cut from his normal. He is middle of the road in defensive stats with a sub 50% xgf%. That is not the 70 point Selke ROR that led us to the cup. Now I am sure Covid is to blame. He was ppg and a +3 in 5 games before and is 0 points and a -2 in the 5 games after. But he if he is not 100%, maybe he needs to rest up and get there. Because we need him to be his best.
Perron ($4M, 4.8%, Top line W) – OK, let’s just get ridiculously unfair now. Perronis 4th on the team in points on a 70 point pace making $4M and I’m saying he needs to be better. “WTF?!?! Why did I just read the novel this fool has written?”. We’ve grown to expect a lot more from Perron than what we pay him. He is a 70 point player. Since ROR got sick he is a ghost. He went from 8 points, +2 in 5 games to 4 points and a -3 in the next 9. Those 4 points were all assists and only 1 was primary. His defensive stats are all middle of the road like ROR. He is our #1 Winger now, and we need him to play like it. I am sure he will when ROR gets back up to speed. This really shows how much his success has been due to their chemistry.
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Coach needs to use this as a case study. If you want the best from Thomas, get him ice time. Thomas is playing better than Schenn has this year, so respond accordingly by not taking away Thomas’ ice time when Schenn is back. ROR and Schenn can split time. I really think we need to conserve RORs ice time to maintain his endurance as he ages.
Yep - Thomas has earned more minutes. ROR and Schenn have earned a reduced role:
Kyrou-Thomas-Tarasenko
Barby-Schenn-Buch
Saad-ROR-Perron
Bozak-Sundqvist-Kostin
No problem flipping Kyrou and Barby.
Big problem for the rest of the league stopping that group of 12.
Kyrou-Thomas-Tarasenko
Barby-Schenn-Buch
Saad-ROR-Perron
Bozak-Sundqvist-Kostin
No problem flipping Kyrou and Barby.
Big problem for the rest of the league stopping that group of 12.
Blues sent down Joshua, Hofer, and Rosen. Brought up Perunovich. Hopefully this means Schenn and Krug are ready to come back.
Kyrou-RoR-Buch
Barbashev-Thomas-Tarasenko
Saad-Schenn-Perron
Neal-Bozak-Kostin
Krug-Faulk
Scandella-Parayko
Perunovich-Bortuzzo
Also wouldn't mind
Kyrou-Thomas-Buch
Barbie-Schenn-Tarasenko
Saad-RoR-Perron
Neal-Bozak-Kostin
Kyrou-RoR-Buch
Barbashev-Thomas-Tarasenko
Saad-Schenn-Perron
Neal-Bozak-Kostin
Krug-Faulk
Scandella-Parayko
Perunovich-Bortuzzo
Also wouldn't mind
Kyrou-Thomas-Buch
Barbie-Schenn-Tarasenko
Saad-RoR-Perron
Neal-Bozak-Kostin
I like those last lines. Kyrou, Thomas and Buch are the engine of this offense and so fun to watch together. I’d let that young line of speed and skill be our #1. The middle 6 is still strong and then replace Neal with Sundqvist when he returns.
I wonder who is about to go on waivers once we have everyone back. I guess either Walman or Clifford.
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All they really need to do is waive and send down Clifford. Blues need to send down about 907k down to activate Sunny.
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