2020 Redraft - Top 5

[RedHawkDown]

Jarvis is the most overrated player of this draft at this point. Putting him above Raymond is straight up comical.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

So I just learned that stutzle is under 42% on faceoffs this year. That’s atrocious. I’ve been giving stutzle the edge over Raymond because he plays center but 42% is so bad you have to wonder if he would be better as a winger.

 

[Golden_Jet]

So I just learned that stutzle is under 42% on faceoffs this year. That’s atrocious. I’ve been giving stutzle the edge over Raymond because he plays center but 42% is so bad you have to wonder if he would be better as a winger.

Yep was terrible October/November

since December 1, he’s 52%, so maybe he’s figured it now, time will tell.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Yep was terrible October/November

since December 1, he’s 52%, so maybe he’s figured it now, time will tell.

He’s been under 50% his whole career. So it’s unlikely. Probably just a hot streak. Hasn’t even broken 47% before. 42% is really just atrocious though.

 

[LeProspector]

Ranking Raymond behind guys he's massively outperforming.

There are so many posts that have Raymond where you want him to be ranked in this thread. My one post doesn’t agree with your confirmation bias so you’re offended? Some people aren’t going to share your opinion.

He isn’t ‘massively outperforming those guys at all. Sanderson and Faber are top pairing defenders. They’re inherently more valuable than wingers and both are still only improving. Jarvis I think is going to come out as the best player in the draft, he is incredible, on a very good Carolina team - he is probably the teams most potent offensive player.

I’m sorry my opinion doesn’t align with your biases.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

There are so many posts that have Raymond where you want him to be ranked in this thread. My one post doesn’t agree with your confirmation bias so you’re offended? Some people aren’t going to share your opinion.

He isn’t ‘massively outperforming those guys at all. Sanderson and Faber are top pairing defenders. They’re inherently more valuable than wingers and both are still only improving. Jarvis I think is going to come out as the best player in the draft, he is incredible, on a very good Carolina team - he is probably the teams most potent offensive player.

I’m sorry my opinion doesn’t align with your biases.

You’re the one that seems to have clear biases. Jarvis is not close to Raymond this year. That’s a fact, not an opinion.

 

[LeProspector]

You’re the one that seems to have clear biases. Jarvis is not close to Raymond this year. That’s a fact, not an opinion.

Jarvis is the better player, in my opinion.

Sorry I hurt your feelings.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Jarvis is the better player, in my opinion.

Sorry I hurt your feelings.

My feelings aren’t hurt lmao. I laugh at your “opinion” because it’s nonsense.

 

[Golden_Jet]

He’s been under 50% his whole career. So it’s unlikely. Probably just a hot streak. Hasn’t even broken 47% before. 42% is really just atrocious though.

Players improve over time on faceoffs, most aren’t good at age 22 or younger but I’m sure you would know that. So ya it is likely lol.
Just turned 23 so still young but has shown great improvement lately at 52%, we’ll see if it keeps up.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Players improve over time on faceoffs, most aren’t good at age 22 or younger but I’m sure you would know that. So ya it is likely lol.
Just turned 23 so still young but has shown great improvement lately at 52%, we’ll see if it keeps up.

No, it’s not likely for someone to go from around 40% to over 50% within a year. Of course he could develop to become a long term 50% faceoff guy, but it’s not going to magically happen mid season.

 

[LeProspector]

My feelings aren’t hurt lmao. I laugh at your “opinion” because it’s nonsense.

So me saying a player with a .92 Points Per Game is better than a player with 1.07 points per game is nonsense now?

completely ignoring one gets more favourable offensive matchups, is the best offensive player on a terrible team and is a black hole defensively.

If you weren’t a Red Wings fan I’d take your opinion seriously and would be willing to have a conversation. But no, you’re not arguing in good faith and are going to let your biases get in the way of an objective conversation.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

So me saying a player with a .92 Points Per Game is better than a player with 1.07 points per game is nonsense now?

completely ignoring one gets more favourable offensive matchups, is the best offensive player on a terrible team and is a black hole defensively.

If you weren’t a Red Wings fan I’d take your opinion seriously and would be willing to have a conversation. But no, you’re not arguing in good faith and are going to let your biases get in the way of an objective conversation.

Well for one half of what you’re saying isn’t remotely true, so yes it is complete nonsense. Not sure where you’ve been but it’s 2025 and the red wings are in a playoff spot, and Raymond is actually a plus player defensively.

Nothing you’re saying is objective. If anything there are objective stats that say you’re very wrong.