Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Entry Draft Thread

[Brodeur]

So we'll be picking at 2, 32, 63, 94, etc..?

Lottery only affects the first round. So the Kings own picks will be 4th in rounds 2-7.

LAK1: #2
LAK2: #35
VAN2: tbd
VGK2: tbd
LAK3: #66
CLB3: tbd
LAK4: #97
CGY4: tbd
LAK5: #128
LAK6: #159
LAK7: #190

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

So we'll be picking at 2, 32, 63, 94, etc..?

The lottery doesn’t impact the order of the other rounds, so the Kings will have the 4th pick in the second round.

 

[RocketKing]

QB is like a month too old for next years draft and he’s a legit Number 1 C that can make a huge difference everywhere in the ice. He has to be th pick from my pov. Just cannot pass on that guy.

 

[kingsboy11]

I take Byfield because I don't think you can pass up on the size and skill that he can bring. That being said there's something to be said Stutzle and Raymond. Lets look at it like this.

Potential #1 center in Byfield. Size, speed, skill. All the aspects of a #1 center, really young player and has shown he can dominate this level. Kings love picking players from the OHL and can easily see them going with him.

Stutzle has an elite winger skill set. Quick hands, quick feet and a smart player. Kings haven't had a player like this since ever? He can truly bring a completely different look to this offense and can run a powerplay like no one else. AEG has a lot of connections in Germany and probably saw a lot of him this year. He also spent the entire year playing against men albeit against weaker competition. Means we can get him to Ontario immediately and get him into our system.

Raymond was picked to be #2 overall to start the year and then Byfield and Stutzle took over, but that's not doesn't mean he's not as good. Kings saw a lot of him because he played on Frolunda. I wouldn't take at 2, but I really do like Raymond a lot.

I still take Byfield every day of the week, but certainly won't be disappointed if we go Stutzle.

 

[crassbonanza]

I am just stoked that we are having a discussion between Byfield and Stutzle, talk about an amazing problem to have. This is an awesome outcome from the draft that I absolutely did not see coming.

 

[KINGS17]

Congrats on the #2 pick, from the Blues board! I really don't think it matters if you choose Byfield or Stutzle. Both are going to be studs. Personally I give the slight edge to Byfield. Good luck going forward! (Until you run into the Blues. )

Based on past playoff series with your team, yeah the Kings and Blues are going to "run into" each other.

 

[ru4reals]

What would it take to get Eichel from Buffalo? Anyone we get at #2 overall will never be as good as Eichel and he seems to not like the direction of that franchise. Would it take a massive overpayment to get him out of that hellhole. Man I'd do it in a heartbeat if the price is right.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

So if the Kings did not beat Ottawa on the last game of the year, they would not have picked 2nd, would this be correct? I think they would have been 5th right?

Exactly. Hockey gods smiling on finishing strong!

I don't really care that Byfield is 6'5". The NHL in 2020 does not require massive size at centre like in the past. So, take away the size advantage and it's clear as day to me that Stutzle is the proper pick at #2. Also, I know they are different players, but seeing the success of Leon Draisaitl makes me very interested in more German hockey talent. He's a little bigger than Stutzle but I can see some similarities with their creativity.

The thing is, the size thing isn't as much a factor yet because he hasn't been great at using it; he's #2 on speed and skill and the potential to grow and use his size as well as iron out inconsistencies.

You SHOULD care that Byfield is 6'5" and will likely play at 230+. Not because 'lolbig,' but because he's got everything else to go with it--and if he DOES learn to use his size, that's where the Malkin things come into play.

I can understand people choosing Stutzle instead but these repeated implications that Byfield is only ranked ahead because of size and that he's some massive project are missing the mark. I don't even know who I'd pick at this point really, either guy is amazing. But out of Lafreniere, Byfield, and Stutzle, only one keeps getting criticized and it's bizarre. A guy having insane potential doesn't mean he isn't already amazing. At worst, Byfield is basically Wheeler.

 

[simon IC]

Based on past playoff series with your team, yeah the Kings and Blues are going to "run into" each other.

Lol! Looking forward to it! I have always liked the Kings. The last time we failed to make the playoffs, I hung out here and was treated really nicely. Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread. I still like Byfield a bit more than Stutzle. Maybe it's the Blues fan in me that likes the bigger body. Stutzle is awesome too. You guys can't really go wrong!

 

[KINGS17]

Exactly. Hockey gods smiling on finishing strong!





The thing is, the size thing isn't as much a factor yet because he hasn't been great at using it; he's #2 on speed and skill and the potential to grow and use his size as well as iron out inconsistencies.

You SHOULD care that Byfield is 6'5" and will likely play at 230+. Not because 'lolbig,' but because he's got everything else to go with it--and if he DOES learn to use his size, that's where the Malkin things come into play.

I can understand people choosing Stutzle instead but these repeated implications that Byfield is only ranked ahead is because of size and that he's some massive project. I don't even know who I'd pick at this point really, either guy is amazing. But out of Lafreniere, Byfield, and Stutzle, only one keeps getting criticized and it's bizarre. A guy having insane potential doesn't mean he isn't already amazing. At worst, Byfield is Wheeler.

Very true, not because he is "lolbig", but he is big and skilled, ...and a good big man beats a good little man almost every time.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Very true, not because he is "lolbig", but he is big and skilled, ...and a good big man beats a good little man almost every time.

Right. And if this guy realizes he's a skill player but also in Dustin Byfuglien's body? Who can stop that?

 

[crassbonanza]

But out of Lafreniere, Byfield, and Stutzle, only one keeps getting criticized and it's bizarre.

I think a lot of people base their opinions off of the WJC and Byfield did have a rough tourney, whereas Stutzle and Laf both showed out.

 

[Little Psycho]

Watch the Blackhawks or Pens end up with the first overall.

 

[kingsfan28]

Lottery only affects the first round. So the Kings own picks will be 4th in rounds 2-7.

LAK1: #2
LAK2: #35
VAN2: tbd
VGK2: tbd
LAK3: #66
CLB3: tbd
LAK4: #97
CGY4: tbd
LAK5: #128
LAK6: #159
LAK7: #190

thanks. So the rest of the draft will be based on final standings, with say Detroit getting 32nd?

 

[SlimCharles]

You know, I did read that if Byfield was a month younger he would be without a doubt the 1st pick in the 2021 draft. I need to watch more film of both guys I really don't know enough right now.

 

[kilowatt]

I’ll go on record saying I’ll be happy with whomever LA chooses if it’s between Byfield and Stutzle. Stutzle honestly reminds me of Peter Forsberg. But I bet we pick Byfield.

 

[bland]

I think a lot of people base their opinions off of the WJC and Byfield did have a rough tourney, whereas Stutzle and Laf both showed out.

Byfield will be Canada's 1c this upcoming WJCs, assuming they happen. He was just a pup last year and just making that team at his age was impressive.

 

[crassbonanza]

Byfield will be Canada's 1c this upcoming WJCs, assuming they happen. He was just a pup last year and just making that team at his age was impressive.

Oh yeah, I'm not criticizing him at all, just answering why I think he is getting the criticism. Not a lot of people are able to delegate enough time to watch all of juniors, so the scouting is generally from big tourneys. Funny thing about Byfield struggling is that Laf played last year and struggled the same at about the same age.

 

[KINGS17]

I take Byfield because I don't think you can pass up on the size and skill that he can bring. That being said there's something to be said Stutzle and Raymond. Lets look at it like this.

Potential #1 center in Byfield. Size, speed, skill. All the aspects of a #1 center, really young player and has shown he can dominate this level. Kings love picking players from the OHL and can easily see them going with him.

Stutzle has an elite winger skill set. Quick hands, quick feet and a smart player. Kings haven't had a player like this since ever? He can truly bring a completely different look to this offense and can run a powerplay like no one else. AEG has a lot of connections in Germany and probably saw a lot of him this year. He also spent the entire year playing against men albeit against weaker competition. Means we can get him to Ontario immediately and get him into our system.

Raymond was picked to be #2 overall to start the year and then Byfield and Stutzle took over, but that's not doesn't mean he's not as good. Kings saw a lot of him because he played on Frolunda. I wouldn't take at 2, but I really do like Raymond a lot.

I still take Byfield every day of the week, but certainly won't be disappointed if we go Stutzle.

I gotta go with Byfield as well. There is still going to be so much available to the Kings in terms of defensemen and wingers with the two 2nd round picks.

 

[bland]

Exactly. Hockey gods smiling on finishing strong!





The thing is, the size thing isn't as much a factor yet because he hasn't been great at using it; he's #2 on speed and skill and the potential to grow and use his size as well as iron out inconsistencies.

You SHOULD care that Byfield is 6'5" and will likely play at 230+. Not because 'lolbig,' but because he's got everything else to go with it--and if he DOES learn to use his size, that's where the Malkin things come into play.

I can understand people choosing Stutzle instead but these repeated implications that Byfield is only ranked ahead because of size and that he's some massive project are missing the mark. I don't even know who I'd pick at this point really, either guy is amazing. But out of Lafreniere, Byfield, and Stutzle, only one keeps getting criticized and it's bizarre. A guy having insane potential doesn't mean he isn't already amazing. At worst, Byfield is basically Wheeler.

Stutzle can be a bit too fancy for my tastes, but he could easily grow out of that once he sees real competition. The pure skill is off the charts, but sometimes those "lighter" guys don't respond well to getting it in the choppers. Its always more comforting when you see a player deal with and profit from adversity.

That being said, Byfield did lay off a bit after the WJCs.

Either way, its a hell of a chance to add such a wonderful prospect. I don't think the debate will be too heated here because both guys are golden. Stutzle being able to play on the left side might be the tie breaker, top offensive left wings are almost as rare as top pairing right side defenders.

Who the hell knows. Its a good day to be a Kings fan.

 

[Lt Dan]

Stutzle can be a bit too fancy for my tastes.

Has anyone ever told you that your taste is kinda bland?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I remember quite a few on here, namely Johnny Utah, wanted the Kings to draft the bigger and more physically mature Bogosian over Doughty because he was supposedly bigger and stronger than Drew. Look at how he turned out. Talent always triumphs over size.

 

[crassbonanza]

Stutzle being able to play on the left side might be the tie breaker, top offensive left wings are almost as rare as top pairing right side defenders.

Since 2000, who have been our best left wingers? Deadmarsh? Frolov? Smythe?

I know Brownie, Gaborik and Williams played on the left on occasion with Kopi, but were there haven't been many great guys who were mainly left wingers recently. Didn't we used to fill in the 1st line left wing spot with "capspace"?

 

[He pukes you die]

I remember quite a few on here, namely Johnny Utah, wanted the Kings to draft the bigger and more physically mature Bogosian over Doughty because he was supposedly bigger and stronger than Drew. Look at how he turned out. Talent always triumphs over size.

Don’t forget the guy who wanted Filatov over Doughty at #2... he should have been banned for that thinking alone.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Stutzle can be a bit too fancy for my tastes, but he could easily grow out of that once he sees real competition. The pure skill is off the charts, but sometimes those "lighter" guys don't respond well to getting it in the choppers. Its always more comforting when you see a player deal with and profit from adversity.

That being said, Byfield did lay off a bit after the WJCs.

Either way, its a hell of a chance to add such a wonderful prospect. I don't think the debate will be too heated here because both guys are golden. Stutzle being able to play on the left side might be the tie breaker, top offensive left wings are almost as rare as top pairing right side defenders.

Who the hell knows. Its a good day to be a Kings fan.

Pretty much. We're talking about the elite of the elite and things they could work on to be MORE elite! I'm happy either way.

Not that it should be the deciding factor but with so many Cs in the org having Stutzle be the electrifying winger in lieu of winning Lafreniere isn't a bad thing either.

I remember quite a few on here, namely Johnny Utah, wanted the Kings to draft the bigger and more physically mature Bogosian over Doughty because he was supposedly bigger and stronger than Drew. Look at how he turned out. Talent always triumphs over size.

I hope this isn't about Byfield because it really doesn't fit in any way.