Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Draft Part 2

[dracom]

No way it takes Rakell to go from 27 to the mid teens. Usually you trade up if a guy falls and you had him rated way higher. A good example is probably Sanderson falling to 18 & us trading 27 & our 2nd for the 18.

I was thinking going from 27 to say 12 or 13. Rakell is the only asset we have that I could see a team be willing to take to make that big of a jump. Going up to 18 is a little more likely, but I have to imagine it would cost more than just our 2nd to get there.

anyone know of a similar situation where a team did jump up almost 10 spots in the draft, just to get an idea of what it could cost?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

The more I look into this draft the more I think Perfetti is the guy I hope falls to us at 6. He checks all the boxes. I know his skating is questionable but how many of the top players in the league today have "skating" as their best attribute? Maybe McDavid and Point. But most of the best players are the smart players, and Perfetti is so smart (OHL Scholastic Player of the Year!).

If Detroit goes for Raymond/Rossi and then Ottawa takes Drysdale/Sanderson, taking Perfetti at 6 would be my ideal outcome.

I like that Perfetti has a great shot to go with that IQ.
Both Perfetti and Rossi i think will work on improving their skating alot after being drafted.

 

[All Mighty]

I was thinking going from 27 to say 12 or 13. Rakell is the only asset we have that I could see a team be willing to take to make that big of a jump. Going up to 18 is a little more likely, but I have to imagine it would cost more than just our 2nd to get there.

anyone know of a similar situation where a team did jump up almost 10 spots in the draft, just to get an idea of what it could cost?

Last year we were about to trade 29 and 39 for 18. It just depends on the team at that spot.

 

[bsu]

There is a zero percent chance Sanderson is available at 18. Literally zero.

 

[Trojans86]

There is a zero percent chance Sanderson is available at 18. Literally zero.

Say he falls to 14 and we can offer 27 38 & our 3rd...?

 

[Beckett]

yes

 

[bsu]

Yes but he will be gone before 14 100%

 

[Trojans86]

Yes but he will be gone before 14 100%

Haha...I have no idea where he is going. Just going off what someone else was predicting. Either way, I'd love to get an elite d with top pair potential.

 

[bsu]

Haha...I have no idea where he is going. Just going off what someone else was predicting. Either way, I'd love to get an elite d with top pair potential.

I'd love to trade up to get him, doubt we would be able to though.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

ESPN's Chris Peters gave his two-round mock. Surprisingly, the Ducks' selections are shown because the preview usually shows the top of the article and Anaheim is the first team alphabetically.

6th. RHD Drysdale
27th. RW Gunler
36th. RW Wiesblatt

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

ESPN's Chris Peters gave his two-round mock. Surprisingly, the Ducks' selections are shown because the preview usually shows the top of the article and Anaheim is the first team alphabetically.

6th. RHD Drysdale
27th. RW Gunler
36th. RW Wiesblatt

I’d love to see the draft go

6. Rossi/Perfetti/Raymond
27. Reichel/lapierre
36. Barron

If we do trade Rakell or Manson and jump into the 13-20 range

I’d love to get 1 of Schneider/Zary

-Rossi and Perfetti give us game changer in our top 6
- reichel is a potential sniper , which we could use
- lapierre I feel would be flirting with top 10 if not for injuries
- Barron to me is a boom or bust at 36, but I think there is a lot of raw talent and could be a giant steal

I like zarys game a lot and gives us more depth options up front going forward

Schneider Seems like a guy that would be a solid future replacement for Manson

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Should the Ducks draft for "bpa + need", "bpa", or "need"?

If "bpa + need", then you gotta look at the NHL and prospects per grouping.

Goalie. Set with Gibby at NHL and Dostal as prospect.

Defense. Set at NHL level for a couple years or more. We have a top-5 + Curran. Middle prospects in Larsson and Guhle. Notable talents with LaCombe, Thrun, and RHD Andersson. Could use a blue chip prospect like Drysdale or Sanderson. One defenseman has established pattern of being more offensive and the other being more of a shutdown guy. Sanderson has the higher potential if he can become more offensive. Drysdale is a more complete defenseman, but is there something more that he brings?

Forward. We are not set at the NHL level. We have a plethora of young prospects that aren't consistent at the NHL level just yet. We have Zegras and Tracey last year. Zegras on the fast track the NHL and Tracey is the long term project. Nabbing a forward with the 6th overall would mean we're getting a better chance at an NHL player, and hopefully another stud like Zegras. I like Holtz, Rossi, and Raymond at 6th, in that order. We need a finisher and that's Holtz, but he brings more than goal scoring. We could use more talent down the middle, but would Rossi stay at center? Raymond may need more time as he might be a timid player that things will kick into a high gear to maximize his uber talents?

Seeing there's more players needed in the forward corps than any other grouping, then it might behoove us to add more top end talent in the forward grouping in case not many of our forward prospects pan out. The fact that Zegras moves to the top of the line in terms of talent and potential makes me value getting top end talent at forward more than defense.

I can see the Ducks take Drysdale. The reason behind that is because it's the easiest path to get to the playoffs by having a strong defense. Drysdale is also good at offense that he can drive plays for the Ducks more fluidly than any Duck defender today, save Curran (who is still an unknown quantity on NA ice, but potential is tantilizing!). That known quantity about Drysdale's offense is swaying me slightly more in his favor than Sanderson. Again, I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Sanderson either - elite shutdown defenseman still fits the easiest pathway to the playoffs. It fits a Bob Murray team.

We'd be a bit imbalanced talent-wise with the drafting of a defenseman. The recognition of both LaCombe and Thrun at the NCAA this past season along with the continued development of RHD Andersson makes us deep with hype talent. Add on the elderly prospects in Larsson and Guhle, then we're kinda sitting pretty. There's also Mahura. Fowler's here until 2025-26 season. Lindholm will be extended, probably past 2025-26 season. I can see Djoos hanging around that long too, being age 26, same age as Lindholm. Manson could also be re-signed to the 2025-26 season. We'd be spoiled to have have Drysdale or Sanderson.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I’d love to see the draft go

6. Rossi/Perfetti/Raymond
27. Reichel/lapierre
36. Barron

If we do trade Rakell or Manson and jump into the 13-20 range

I’d love to get 1 of Schneider/Zary

-Rossi and Perfetti give us game changer in our top 6
- reichel is a potential sniper , which we could use
- lapierre I feel would be flirting with top 10 if not for injuries
- Barron to me is a boom or bust at 36, but I think there is a lot of raw talent and could be a giant steal

I like zarys game a lot and gives us more depth options up front going forward

Schneider Seems like a guy that would be a solid future replacement for Manson

I was high on Zary until Draft Dynasty covered him on one of his video scouting. Zary doesn't move the needle since we have a player like him, but better defensively in Lundestrom.

As for Schnieder, I'm meh on him. If you have us grabbing Barron at 36, then we have a possible Manson replacement there without trading Manson.

I'd add Greig to your 27/36 potential players. He's just fun to watch and his stock is rising!

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I was high on Zary until Draft Dynasty covered him on one of his video scouting. Zary doesn't move the needle since we have a player like him, but better defensively in Lundestrom.

As for Schnieder, I'm meh on him. If you have us grabbing Barron at 36, then we have a possible Manson replacement there without trading Manson.

I'd add Greig to your 27/36 potential players. He's just fun to watch and his stock is rising!

Barron I honestly don’t expect there at 36, and Schneider is based on a potential trade.


As for Zary I think he has a much higher upside than Lundy, I’d love to get jarvis or Quinn but i didn’t think they’d be available

 

[jiggsawpuzzle35]

I’d love to see the draft go

6. Rossi/Perfetti/Raymond
27. Reichel/lapierre
36. Barron

If we do trade Rakell or Manson and jump into the 13-20 range

I’d love to get 1 of Schneider/Zary

-Rossi and Perfetti give us game changer in our top 6
- reichel is a potential sniper , which we could use
- lapierre I feel would be flirting with top 10 if not for injuries
- Barron to me is a boom or bust at 36, but I think there is a lot of raw talent and could be a giant steal

I like zarys game a lot and gives us more depth options up front going forward

Schneider Seems like a guy that would be a solid future replacement for Manson

I’d rather trade Rakell or Manson for a 1st round pick in 2021 with a team who is a bubble playoff team or a team that is still rebuilding. Hope for this best that the pick ends up being what Ottawa got from San Jose. Imagine being able to draft a combination of Brandt Clarke, Owen Power, Kent Johnson, Carson Lambos, Aatu Raty, or Luke Hughes. Being able to draft 2 of these guys would be amazing.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I’d rather trade Rakell or Manson for a 1st round pick in 2021 with a team who is a bubble playoff team or a team that is still rebuilding. Hope for this best that the pick ends up being what Ottawa got from San Jose. Imagine being able to draft a combination of Brandt Clarke, Owen Power, Kent Johnson, Carson Lambos, Aatu Raty, or Luke Hughes. Being able to draft 2 of these guys would be amazing.

That’s luck based tho , no body had San Jose as a bottom 5 team

 

[AngelDuck]

Top 31 in 2021 if anyone is curious. Lots of time for things to change but as of now: 9 Defenders, 13 Centres, 8 Wingers and 1 Goalie. In 2019 there were 10 Defenders taken in the first round.

1	Aatu Räty	C	Kärpät U20/Kärpät	U20 SM-sarja/Liiga
2	Brandt Clarke	D	Barrie Colts	OHL
3	Owen Power	D	University of Michigan	NCAA
4	Carson Lambos	D	Winnipeg Ice	WHL
5	Dylan Guenther	RW	Edmonton Oil Kings	WHL
6	Kent Johnson	C	University of Michigan	NCAA
7	Chaz Lucius	C	U.S National U18 Team	NTDP
8	Fabian Lysell	LW	Frölunda HC J20	SuperElit
9	Luke Hughes	D	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP
10	Simon Edvinsson	D	Frölunda HC J20/Frölunda HC	SuperElit/SHL
11	Zachary L’Heureux	C	Halifax Mooseheads	QMJHL
12	Samu Tuomaala	RW	Kärpät U20/Kärpät	U20 SM-sarja/Liiga
13	Matthew Beniers	C	University of Michigan	NCAA
14	Mason McTavish	C	Peterborough Petes	OHL
15	Daniil Chayka	D	Guelph Storm	OHL
16	Jesper Wallstedt	G	Luleå HF	SHL
17	Cole Sillinger	C	Medicine Hat Tigers	WHL
18	Zachary Bolduc	C	Rimouski Océanic	QMJHL
19	Xavier Bourgault	C	Shawinigan Cataractes	QMJHL
20	Daniil Lazutin	C	SKA-1946 St. Petersburg	MHL
21	Simon Robertsson	RW	Skellefteå AIK J20	SuperElit
22	Prokhor Polpatov	RW	Krasnaya Armiya Moskva	MHL
23	Stanislav Svozil	D	HC Kometa Brno	Czech
24	Zach Dean	C	Gatineau Olympiques	QMJHL
25	William Eklund	C	Djurgårdens IF J20/Djurgårdens IF	SuperElit/SHL
26	Isak Rosén	LW	Leksands IF J20	SuperElit
27	Sean Behrens	D	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP
28	Brennan Othmann	LW	Flint Firebirds	OHL
29	Nikita Chibrikov	W	SKA-1946 St. Petersburg	MHL
30	Anton Olsson	D	Malmö Redhawks J20/Malmö Redhawks	SuperElit/SHL
31	Logan Stankoven	C/W	Kamloops Blazers	WHL

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Its hard to look at this and not think Luke Hughes will go screaming up this board in the next 8 months.
Hes as good of a skater as his brothers.
We might have a chance to get him...long ways away though

 

[Rasp]

Its hard to look at this and not think Luke Hughes will go screaming up this board in the next 8 months.
Hes as good of a skater as his brothers.
We might have a chance to get him...long ways away though

The younger brother tends to be the best one so I bet he ends up top 3. Would love to get him if we could.

 

[Trojans86]

Should the Ducks draft for "bpa + need", "bpa", or "need"?

If "bpa + need", then you gotta look at the NHL and prospects per grouping.

Goalie. Set with Gibby at NHL and Dostal as prospect.

Defense. Set at NHL level for a couple years or more. We have a top-5 + Curran. Middle prospects in Larsson and Guhle. Notable talents with LaCombe, Thrun, and RHD Andersson. Could use a blue chip prospect like Drysdale or Sanderson. One defenseman has established pattern of being more offensive and the other being more of a shutdown guy. Sanderson has the higher potential if he can become more offensive. Drysdale is a more complete defenseman, but is there something more that he brings?

Forward. We are not set at the NHL level. We have a plethora of young prospects that aren't consistent at the NHL level just yet. We have Zegras and Tracey last year. Zegras on the fast track the NHL and Tracey is the long term project. Nabbing a forward with the 6th overall would mean we're getting a better chance at an NHL player, and hopefully another stud like Zegras. I like Holtz, Rossi, and Raymond at 6th, in that order. We need a finisher and that's Holtz, but he brings more than goal scoring. We could use more talent down the middle, but would Rossi stay at center? Raymond may need more time as he might be a timid player that things will kick into a high gear to maximize his uber talents?

Seeing there's more players needed in the forward corps than any other grouping, then it might behoove us to add more top end talent in the forward grouping in case not many of our forward prospects pan out. The fact that Zegras moves to the top of the line in terms of talent and potential makes me value getting top end talent at forward more than defense.

I can see the Ducks take Drysdale. The reason behind that is because it's the easiest path to get to the playoffs by having a strong defense. Drysdale is also good at offense that he can drive plays for the Ducks more fluidly than any Duck defender today, save Curran (who is still an unknown quantity on NA ice, but potential is tantilizing!). That known quantity about Drysdale's offense is swaying me slightly more in his favor than Sanderson. Again, I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Sanderson either - elite shutdown defenseman still fits the easiest pathway to the playoffs. It fits a Bob Murray team.

We'd be a bit imbalanced talent-wise with the drafting of a defenseman. The recognition of both LaCombe and Thrun at the NCAA this past season along with the continued development of RHD Andersson makes us deep with hype talent. Add on the elderly prospects in Larsson and Guhle, then we're kinda sitting pretty. There's also Mahura. Fowler's here until 2025-26 season. Lindholm will be extended, probably past 2025-26 season. I can see Djoos hanging around that long too, being age 26, same age as Lindholm. Manson could also be re-signed to the 2025-26 season. We'd be spoiled to have have Drysdale or Sanderson.

I disagree that we are set on defense. If you want to go deep in the playoffs you need like three top pairing guys and we have one imo. Also, our d is older without any studs in the system, d take longer to develop, and d are really hard to trade for. At forward we have some young centers that could be good but tbd. Winger we have some young guys but need some more talent, but wingers are easy to find in free agency, easy to trade for and can be drafted and fit into the club relatively quickly.

 

[Gliff]

I’d rather trade Rakell or Manson for a 1st round pick in 2021 with a team who is a bubble playoff team or a team that is still rebuilding. Hope for this best that the pick ends up being what Ottawa got from San Jose. Imagine being able to draft a combination of Brandt Clarke, Owen Power, Kent Johnson, Carson Lambos, Aatu Raty, or Luke Hughes. Being able to draft 2 of these guys would be amazing.

While I wouldn't mind getting a 2021 1st, I would not count on that scenario of it turning into a top 5 pick happening.

San Jose was more likely to be competing for a cup then miss the playoffs...

 

[AngelDuck]

While I wouldn't mind getting a 2021 1st, I would not count on that scenario of it turning into a top 5 pick happening.

San Jose was more likely to be competing for a cup then miss the playoffs...

It happened for Colorado the year before too. And we were within a few random stupid wins at the end of a season by Ottawa in 2014 from getting Ehlers or Nylander instead of Ritchie. I’m not saying its likely and we should count on it but it’s absolutely worth getting a couple first round picks this “offseason” and praying that that team takes a dump

 

[jiggsawpuzzle35]

While I wouldn't mind getting a 2021 1st, I would not count on that scenario of it turning into a top 5 pick happening.

San Jose was more likely to be competing for a cup then miss the playoffs...

I’d be happy with a top 10 which would be more realistic.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I disagree that we are set on defense. If you want to go deep in the playoffs you need like three top pairing guys and we have one imo. Also, our d is older without any studs in the system, d take longer to develop, and d are really hard to trade for. At forward we have some young centers that could be good but tbd. Winger we have some young guys but need some more talent, but wingers are easy to find in free agency, easy to trade for and can be drafted and fit into the club relatively quickly.

Going deep into the playoffs? I just want to get back first. heh

2017-18 defensive roster (last time we went to the playoffs)

King Beauch
Bxa
Fowler
Holzer
Magnus (Lindholm)
Manson
Megna
Montour
Pettersson
Vatanen... for about 15 games until we sent him off for Henrique.
Welinski​

2020-21 Projected defensive roster

Magnus
Manson
Fowler
Gudz
Djoos
Curran
Hankanpaa​

I agree that we have one top-pairing defenseman in Lindholm (26 yrs old), but we don't need a similarly top talent to complement Lindholm as proven by his mates in Manson (28 yrs old) and then Gudz. Fowler (28 yrs old) is an amazing second pairing defenseman and can exploit this well. Again, a defensive d-man complements Fowler well as we found out when Gudz was his mate. Djoos is a solid second pairing defenseman who we have as our #5. The dark horse is Curran as he could become PP1 QB and give us that offense from the blue line again. If Curran turns out to be a solid second pairing guy playing #6, then we've improved our defense drastically as we don't have to shelter our bottom pairing as well as ease the burden of playing time for the top 2 pairings.

This also means youngings like Larsson and Guhle get to stew longer in the AHL as well as provide us with more depth as a 6th defenseman. We might have gems in NCAA prospects LaCombe and Thrun. I've been reading up on Andersson. Apparently, he's likes to play offense, but needs to tune his defensive play. As of right now, there are no clear cut studs on defense in our system. This is why the additions of Gudz (28 yrs old), Djoos (just turned 26), and Curran (30) are important and should they pan out, then we don't needs studs right away. Getting Drysdale or Sanderson would make us spoiled defensively.

At forward, we're lacking NHL quality players and Getzlaf won't be around too long or have a reduced role. We're in dire need of top end talent. Before the 2019-20 season started, I was hyped on Steel, Terry, and Comtois! All that hype faded away during the season. We have Zegras coming up and it's so difficult to keep that hype train down. Zegras alone can't do it. He'll need help. Getzlaf had his twin, Perry, and usually another big forward like Penner, Maroon, or Eaves. Top end scoring forwards are difficult to find and expensive to get. We had to send Vatanen and a 2019 3rd round pick to get Henrique. Most teams don't let their top goal scorers on the cheap.

That would be my gamble. Try to get top end forward talent while we still have Lindholm around, possibly for the next 7 years. I would like our forwards to start carrying part of the load away from our defense and netminding. Going into next year, we're going to rely heavily on our defense and netminding if we want a playoff spot. Maybe Zegras can give us that jump start, but we need more than just Zegras going forward. I want to start living on the offensive end than holding onto dear life on the defensive end, hoping we don't exhaust Gibby into early retirement. LoL

 

[bsu]

I'll bet anyone ducks won't make the playoffs.

 

[Gliff]

I'll bet anyone ducks won't make the playoffs.

It’s possible, but only if Terry, Steel, or Comtois realize their potential.

Let’s say the 3 of them get 170 points between them. The Ducks are making the playoffs.