NHL Entry Draft 2020 NHL Draft Discussion - PART IV

[Sens of Anarchy]

I am a big fan of Mysak. So is my wife, especially when it's shaved..

So you are both itch'n for Mysak?

 

[Icelevel]

I’m not ready to do a total reshuffle of the mainstream popular order. But I’d probably take Rossi over stutzle at this point.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

 

[RAFI BOMB]

Scouting Report
A high-octane center who is confident on the puck and demands it when the stakes are high, Khusnutdinov is a shifty east-west pivot who is one of Russia’s most creative teenage playmakers. Whether for the under-18 team or for SKA-1946, he does the heavy lifting for his power-play unit and can shift the momentum in his favor by jumping into passing lanes for immediate counterattacks into opposing territory. He may not be big in stature, but he more than makes up for it in confidence, leg drive, balance, and tight-quarter quickness.

Khusnutdinov plays with an edge and is willing to sacrifice his body at the off chance he decides to chip and chase. A 50/50 puck battle against him is no laughing matter, and bigger defenders have paid the price by underestimating his core strength, leg drive and powerful shoulders. At the forefront of his game, however, is his ability to carve up a defense through the neutral zone. Khusnutdinov has excellent speed and agility, and his quick first step is dropped before an opponent can anticipate his intentions.

Khusnutdinov delivers the puck through the tiniest of windows with surgical precision, but he also is excellent at executing or orchestrating give-and-go’s, weaves, cycles, and backdoor plays. He has wonderful hands and incredible hand-eye coordination, so you can guess how rapid his transitions into shooting positions are. Khusnutdinov owns one heck of a shot, not only for the release but also for his accuracy. The puck can explode off his stick and he is consistent in getting shots off through screens or when blanketed by a defender. Khusnutdinov is an expert on the backhand and he can make plays with regularity. He’s even shown accuracy with the cross-body backhanders and can roof the puck from in close.

One thing that deserves mention is Khusnutdinov’s role on a powerful team like SKA-1946. He is essentially the team’s third-line center yet he produces scoring chances with such frequency you’d think he plays 20-22 minutes a night. Additionally, he’s used as a backup penalty killer and he has won over 60 percent of his draws. Developing quick chemistry as a center with new linemates and being low maintenance are two qualities that any NHL team would want in their prospects. At the under-18 level, Khusnutdinov spent time with several highly-skilled wingers such as Daniil Guschin and Alexander Pashin, but he’s also made threats out of the physical types like Ilya Rychkov and Dmitri Ovchinnikov.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

Seth Jarvis RW 5'10 172 lbs
2019-2020 WHL: 53 GP 37 G 51 A 88 PTS +41

"He does everything at full speed and he can really skate," Johnston said. "He's got quick hands, he's got quick feet, he drives the net at full speed, he attacks defenders at full speed. And he's got good vision."

"His compete level is what really draws you to him when you initially see him," John Williams of NHL Central Scouting said. "That's been there from the time he came into the league a year ago as a 16-year-old. Like a lot of the really good players, if his offensive game is not going he does other things to help the team win. He can make defensive plays, he's a good penalty killer, anything that helps his team win. ... I think he's got a high hockey IQ and that's what allows him to be successful offensively, too."

 

[MatchesMalone]

I’m not ready to do a total reshuffle of the mainstream popular order. But I’d probably take Rossi over stutzle at this point.

Interesting. Kinda bold. Does that mean you think Rossi is a top three or four prospect, or you're not sold on Stützle top five?

 

[Sweatred]

I’m not ready to do a total reshuffle of the mainstream popular order. But I’d probably take Rossi over stutzle at this point.

If he was 8 days older where would you have taken him las year ?
29G 36A 65PTS

 

[MatchesMalone]

Here is another game worth checking out, it is Tolpar's 10-1 win over Sarmaty. Players worth scouting:

Danil Bashkirov (#19) F 6'2 163 lbs OA1
2019-2020:

• KHL: 12 GP 0 G 1 A 1 PTS
• VHL: 23 GP 4 G 5 A 9 PTS
• MHL: 28 GP 10 G 8 A 18 PTS
• Spengler Cup: 3 GP 1 G 0 A 1 PTS

Danil Bashkirov at eliteprospects.com

Danil Alalykin (#61) F 6' 157 lbs OA1
2019-2020:

• KHL: 5 GP 1 G 0 A 1 PTS
• VHL: 14 GP 2 G 3 A 5 PTS
• MHL: 37 GP 20 G 15 A 35 PTS

Danil Alalykin at eliteprospects.com

Shakir Mukhamadulin (#85) D 6'2 170 lbs
2019-2020:

• KHL: 27 GP 0 G 1 A 1 PTS
• MHL: 12 GP 1 G 7 A 8 PTS

Shakir Mukhamadullin at eliteprospects.com
For a full list of the roster for other draft eligible prospects see the following link:
Tolpar Ufa at eliteprospects.com
For a scoring summary see the following link:
Junior Hockey League - Tolpar - Sarmaty | 18 February, 2020, Tuesday

Seems like Mukhamadullin is never in his own zone at the junior level. Everything is one and done. It's remarkable how much he is able to impact the game by doing so little.

He's the prototypical stay-at-home defenseman: separate opponent from puck, get puck to forwards, join the attack only if there's a perfect opportunity or if it's necessary to maintain OZ possession. He spent a fair amount if time deep in the offensive zone in this game, but I saw very little of that in either the KHL or international competition.

He's also very capable of playing either position, and can switch back and forth from one shift to the next: another attribute that's going to make him a sought after commodity by NHL teams.

 

[Micklebot]

If he was 8 days older where would you have taken him las year ?
29G 36A 65PTS

I think he's easily top half of the 1st round last year with that production and being one of the youngest players in the draft. But his game has taken a bigger than projected step forward so he has climbed the rankings.

I'm not putting him ahead of Stutzle but I think he gets consideration as early as 5th this year. Lots of good options though so its wide open imo.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Y’all should see Stutzle’s stats relative to his peers. He has more points and better PPG than anyone 26 or under.

He just turned 18.

 

[Crosside]

I like that Bondra said we want Bourque and Villeneuve. Imagine if we are lucky and win the lottery and Lapierre fall in second round. It s gonna boosts the interest in Gatineau and draft all this québécois in the Montreal building WOW

 

[MatchesMalone]

Y’all should see Stutzle’s stats relative to his peers. He has more points and better PPG than anyone 26 or under.

He just turned 18.

He's slowed down a lot lately. He was a point per game. Just two points in his last eight games, and both came in one game. Reichel has four in eight in that same span.

 

[TheDebater]

The following post was made in the Tkachuk thread, however I feel my response is better suited for the draft thread:

someone should start a thread totally unrelated with trolling MTL cause BT and Chabot could be theirs right now.

Interesting point you derive actually.

My theory is that if Ottawa was picking earlier in the draft, Chabot may not have been their first choice. I believe, as most do, that there is definitely a certain element of "luck" involved in the draft which sometimes ends up being good or bad for any given team.

For example team A picking at the #12 position might have "a better" player still on the board than a team picking #17-20 for example, and that Team A, had it been in Team B's draft position may have made the same selection as them.

Sometimes, a team drafting a little later may have already crossed many names off their list as the 1st round progressed, and by selecting a great player in the 15-30 range it is usually due to "what is available" and not necessarily a player they had high on their list.

Chabot is a good example of that I believe, would Ottawa have drafted him still had we been picking 10-14, for example?

 

[BondraTime]

The following post was made in the Tkachuk thread, however I feel my response is better suited for the draft thread:



Interesting point you derive actually.

My theory is that if Ottawa was picking earlier in the draft, Chabot may not have been their first choice. I believe, as most do, that there is definitely a certain element of "luck" involved in the draft which sometimes ends up being good or bad for any given team.

For example team A picking at the #12 position might have "a better" player still on the board than a team picking #17-20 for example, and that Team A, had it been in Team B's draft position may have made the same selection as them.

Sometimes, a team drafting a little later may have already crossed many names off their list as the 1st round progressed, and by selecting a great player in the 15-30 range it is usually due to "what is available" and not necessarily a player they had high on their list.

Chabot is a good example of that I believe, would Ottawa have drafted him still had we been picking 10-14, for example?

Ottawa would have drafted Chabot if they had pick 10, they had him higher than Meier and Zboril for sure, and I'm confident in saying they had him higher than most. Calgary had him rated very high as well.

 

[TheDebater]

Ottawa would have drafted Chabot if they had pick 10, they had him higher than Meier and Zboril for sure, and I'm confident in saying they had him higher than most. Calgary had him rated very high as well.

Is this based on speculation or based on information from the draft? If the Sens had him ranked that high, would they not have made a move to move up in the draft, as they did with Karlsson?

 

[BondraTime]

Is this based on speculation or based on information from the draft? If the Sens had him ranked that high, would they not have made a move to move up in the draft, as they did with Karlsson?

This is based on information I had in 2015. I had relayed that info here prior to the draft. We were able to trade up for Karlsson because Nashville were keen on taking Pickard, and knew he'd be available to take at 18. We moved up because Anaheim were going to take Karlsson. If Calgary hadn't traded away their pick for Hamilton, Chabot would have been taken by them at 14, and the Sens were well aware of that. Them trading the pick made getting Chabot very likely at 18, as they certainly had an idea of where the Bruins stood between Zboril/Chabot after spending so much time in Saint John talking with De Blois and Saint John's management.

They likely couldn't move up because teams didn't want to move the picks, and Calgary had traded their pick away prior to the draft. When you are sitting at pick 16 with Barzel, Connor and Chabot there, they were likely giddy, as picks from 11-15 were all guys that I would bet my life savings on were lower than all 3 of those guys remaining.

The Sens had Chabot ranked very high, and with hindsight they were very right.

I'm sure we'd love to trade up this year as well, but that can't be done unless you have a dance partner.

 

[TheDebater]

This is based on information I had in 2015. I had relayed that info here prior to the draft. We were able to trade up for Karlsson because Nashville were keen on taking Pickard, and knew he'd be available to take at 18. We moved up because Anaheim were going to take Karlsson. If Calgary hadn't traded away their pick for Hamilton, Chabot would have been taken by them at 14, and the Sens were well aware of that. Them trading the pick made getting Chabot very likely at 18, as they certainly had an idea of where the Bruins stood between Zboril/Chabot after spending so much time in Saint John talking with De Blois and Saint John's management.

They likely couldn't move up because teams didn't want to move the picks, and Calgary had traded their pick away prior to the draft. When you are sitting at pick 16 with Barzel, Connor and Chabot there, they were likely giddy, as picks from 11-15 were all guys that I would bet my life savings on were lower than all 3 of those guys remaining.

The Sens had Chabot ranked very high, and with hindsight they were very right.

I'm sure we'd love to trade up this year as well, but that can't be done unless you have a dance partner.

Thank you for clarifying, pretty good on the organization if that is how it all played out.

 

[Sweatred]

I think he's easily top half of the 1st round last year with that production and being one of the youngest players in the draft. But his game has taken a bigger than projected step forward so he has climbed the rankings.

I'm not putting him ahead of Stutzle but I think he gets consideration as early as 5th this year. Lots of good options though so its wide open imo.

I am clouded by last year. I want a true star and I wouldn’t have been that excited if we took him with the LT pick. He has progressed well but he will always have the 5.9 / overage/ poor skater tag for me.

 

[TheDebater]

Sorry double post.

 

[DJB]

Incredibly unpopular, and somewhat biased opinion but I've had Lundell at 2 for a few months now. Byfield has a higher ceiling, but I haven't liked his hockey IQ & feel like he forces A LOT of plays (Sudbury also isn't a very strong team, so he is depended on to do that often, but that builds tough habits).

Lundell on the other hand is the most well-rounded player in the draft, has a lethal shot - reads the game at such a high level. I see his floor as a 65+ point centre contending the Selke year in and year out. That sort of impact does not go unnoticed and is a cornerstone level piece for a contending franchise. He's the safest pick (excluding Lafreniere) in the draft if that counts for anything.

I dont see much wow factor with Lundell but I do agree on the "safe" pick. Hes at minimum a 2nd line centre.

If his skating was better hed be getting top 5 votes from me but his skating holds him back imo.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

NHL Mock Draft 2020: Red Wings move to the top, get Alexis Lafreniere; Senators select forwards back-to-back
Not saying I agree with the picks. I'd probably go Raymond, Drysdale and then at 19 go Mysak/Bourque/Zary

 

[Sweatred]

NHL Mock Draft 2020: Red Wings move to the top, get Alexis Lafreniere; Senators select forwards back-to-back
Not saying I agree with the picks. I'd probably go Raymond, Drysdale and then at 19 go Mysak/Bourque/Zary

US publication -let the Ottberia picks slide and dump the two undersized pics on them.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

NHL Mock Draft 2020: Red Wings move to the top, get Alexis Lafreniere; Senators select forwards back-to-back
Not saying I agree with the picks. I'd probably go Raymond, Drysdale and then at 19 go Mysak/Bourque/Zary

I know Rossi is one of the oldest guys in the draft but him+Perfetti would be pretty tempting.

 

[Sensinitis]

Obviously Laf is the dream, but as long as we get at least one of Laf/Byf/Raymond/Stutzle I’m a very happy camper.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

I don’t really care who we pick if we have picks between 4-9 or so. They’re all close and you can’t go wrong with any of them. I’d we had #2 I would be extreme let disappointed if we didn’t take Byfield. I think people not putting him #2 are foolish