Prospect Info: 2020 Devils-Centric Mock Draft, Conference Finals Edition

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In the Athletic mock draft, Corey Misisak picked Rossi, Zary and Guhle as the Devils picks.

Top 6 was Lafreniere, Stutzle, Byfield, Perfetti, Raymond, Drysdale.
Zary happened in part because other forwards we hope will fall didn’t because Sanderson fell to Winnipeg, Carolina went G and everyone else took a forward. It’s an interesting mock because only two defensemen going before 18 seems very unlikely but it’s a strong forward draft so it may take while for teams to start grabbing them and maybe they’ll just be a run on defense late.

The pick I see as very possible, is Lapierre to Montreal if a team desperate for a center doesn’t grab him sooner. Are the Habs desperate for a center? No, but never ever underestimate the attractiveness of French Canadian talent to the Habs.
 
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2020 Draft: Holtz, Lundell join Stuetzle as top International prospects

Q: There's been talk that Yaroslav Askarov is the best goaltending prospect to come along since Carey Price in 2005. He's No. 1 in NHL Central Scouting's final ranking of International goalies. What do you think of Askarov (6-3, 176)?

"I think he's a little bit overrated because, from what I understand, he's been playing really well in a couple of tournaments in North America. We saw him at the 2020 World Junior Championship, and I will say he was up-and-down and was even benched. I saw him at the Under-20 tournament in Helsinki (Finland) in November and he was good, but you can see there is something special with him. It's a little bit too much to say he's the best goalie prospect coming up in the last 10-to-15 years, but he's good. He's in a good organization in St. Petersburg and he'll be a great goaltender. He's a very loud prospect, giving orders to his skaters all the time, even on the power play."

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Answer is from Goran Stubb, NHL director of European Scouting. He seems a little less high on Askarov than some others.
 

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Sorry, Corey, but it doesn't look like a truth. Two centers and stay at home LD? I am not a fan of Schneider, but i see devils will prefer him, because of lack of RD. Devs have Bahl, Okhotyuk and Vukojevich who are LD stay at home defensmen,
If devs will pick Rossi, i don`t see any chance they will pick Zary after. The organization has a problem with RW, and there are definitely enough of them for the Devils in this first-round on this draft.

I won't believe this top 6 either.

As far is Masisak is concerned, I'm fine with Rossi at 7 over Sanderson, though I understand the preference for Sanderson and would be fine with him too. I do disagree with Zary, I would want Ftiz to take Amirov in that spot. At 20 take Gunler or Perreault.
 

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2020 Draft: Holtz, Lundell join Stuetzle as top International prospects

Q: There's been talk that Yaroslav Askarov is the best goaltending prospect to come along since Carey Price in 2005. He's No. 1 in NHL Central Scouting's final ranking of International goalies. What do you think of Askarov (6-3, 176)?

"I think he's a little bit overrated because, from what I understand, he's been playing really well in a couple of tournaments in North America. We saw him at the 2020 World Junior Championship, and I will say he was up-and-down and was even benched. I saw him at the Under-20 tournament in Helsinki (Finland) in November and he was good, but you can see there is something special with him. It's a little bit too much to say he's the best goalie prospect coming up in the last 10-to-15 years, but he's good. He's in a good organization in St. Petersburg and he'll be a great goaltender. He's a very loud prospect, giving orders to his skaters all the time, even on the power play."

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Answer is from Goran Stubb, NHL director of European Scouting. He seems a little less high on Askarov than some others.
another plaudit for khusnutdinov. the guy is gonna get picked up first 3 rounds
 

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Would Devil fans trade their 3 1st rd picks for Mitch Marner from the Leafs? Marner would get you 90-100 pts every year... especially playing with Hughes,,, helping him reach his potential... your team has cap space.. Leafs do this for cap space to sign a number #1 D

Oh man, I needed a laugh :laugh: . Thanks for that.

I might consider one first, not the 7th though. But no, absolutely not for 3 or 2 first round picks. Not a chance in hell.
 

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I'd take rossi over Sanderson every time. I need the Rossi. He will be the Bossi
Ottawa 67’s GM:

“He’s a phenomenal player. Phenomenal. A few teams that have picked up on it. I’m biased but I think he’s the best player in our league. It’s not often you’ve got a player on your team who is the best offensive player, the best defensive player, the best guy on faceoffs, the best guy on the power play, the best guy on the penalty kill and probably your No. 1 shootout shooter. And the thing is he doesn’t cheat, so as the game goes along, he takes over. The No. 1 thing for me is his skating — which was a concern for some people — is phenomenal. Some guys are interested in getting better, he’s obsessed. If I told him to eat a pound of sunflower seeds every day because it would help him get to the NHL, he’d be right on it. It’s only going to continue. You hear this sort of stuff about Sidney Crosby or Shea Weber when they were juniors, it’s almost like a disorder, the striving to get better. I see the same thing in Marco. Nothing’s going to stop him.”

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Waiting to select Marco Rossi like
 

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That's in like two weeks and I hope the not changing thing is limited to shoes.

Sitting in my pandemic chair and haven't changed my clothes in months. The set of things I give a f*** about has dwindled to drafting Marco Rossi. There's a rancid jar of sourdough starter on top of my fridge and four pallets of LaCroix in the garage.
 

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Ottawa 67’s GM:

“He’s a phenomenal player. Phenomenal. A few teams that have picked up on it. I’m biased but I think he’s the best player in our league. It’s not often you’ve got a player on your team who is the best offensive player, the best defensive player, the best guy on faceoffs, the best guy on the power play, the best guy on the penalty kill and probably your No. 1 shootout shooter. And the thing is he doesn’t cheat, so as the game goes along, he takes over. The No. 1 thing for me is his skating — which was a concern for some people — is phenomenal. Some guys are interested in getting better, he’s obsessed. If I told him to eat a pound of sunflower seeds every day because it would help him get to the NHL, he’d be right on it. It’s only going to continue. You hear this sort of stuff about Sidney Crosby or Shea Weber when they were juniors, it’s almost like a disorder, the striving to get better. I see the same thing in Marco. Nothing’s going to stop him.”

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Similar to what I said about Provorov when we selected Zacha. If Rossi is available and we dont take him I'm going to lose my f***ing mind lol

Unless Lafreniere or Byfield are available, I am taking Marco Rossi 100/100 times if he is there.
 

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I really need the draft to just get here. I'm falling in total love with Ridly Greig and I officially want him at 20.

Drysdale/Sanderson, Rossi, Raymond at #7
Mercer, Jarvis, Perreault, Gunler at #18
Greig at #20

That's what I want. I'm totally head over heels for Greig at this point.
 
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What is it about his game that has you sold on him?
I'm just in love with the overall package of skill and 200 ft compete level. The kid is a dog on the ice but he's also capable of being a 60 pts or better player. I personally feel those types are rare. If he were one or the other, I don't think I'd like him as much but I think he's the total package. Not a high end talent but he's incredibly smart on the ice and the drive to be great is only rivaled by Marco Rossi IMO. Kid is going to be a massive fan favorite.
 

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I'm just in love with the overall package of skill and 200 ft compete level. The kid is a dog on the ice but he's also capable of being a 60 pts or better player. I personally feel those types are rare. If he were one or the other, I don't think I'd like him as much but I think he's the total package. Not a high end talent but he's incredibly smart on the ice and the drive to be great is only rivaled by Marco Rossi IMO. Kid is going to be a massive fan favorite.

like Coleman but with passing vision?
 
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Wheeler also updated his top 100 prospects for this year. He has Rossi at 3 and a very complimentary write up about him.

Whooo boy, I can't wait until five years from now when I look at my Top 100 for 2020 compared to Wheeler. I completely respect and admire his writing and attention to detail and comprehensiveness, but boy do I disagree with him on pretty much everything.

I do agree with Wheeler on Rossi. I considered Rossi at #3, but as much as I wanted to move him up to that position I clearly have too much respect for the unbelievable upside of Tim Stutzle, who Wheeler ranked at #7, which is lower than I've seen him anywhere else.

Where I disagree with Wheeler the most is that two of my highest-priority categories he does not factor in at all -- defensive play for defensemen, and compete level for all skaters.

Example #1 would be that Wheeler has ranked the best defensive defenseman in the draft (Jake Sanderson) as low as I have seen him at #17. He spends his entire write-up of Sanderson not talking about Sanderson but rather rationalizing his own questionable ranking, before ending his write-up with the rationalization -- knowing that Sanderson is a likely top 7 overall pick -- "If the first nine players on my board are gone, I wouldn’t scoff at taking Sanderson as high as 10th-overall in this draft." I laughed at that line, because it's totally cheating in a draft-ranking -- if you rank player so far lower than the consensus that you feel the need to rationalize it, you're essentially admitting uncertainty.

Example #2 is Braden Schneider, universally regarded as the best shut-down RD in the draft, universally drafted from the early teens to, at latest, the early 20s. Wheeler has him at #38 -- below several defensemen who would be considered among the sloppiest and least responsible players in their own zone in the entire draft: Poirier, Grans, Cormier, Wallinder. Wheeler's philosophy assumes that defensive-minded defensemen never improve their offensive game and offensive-minded will inevitably improve their defensive game. History has proven this untrue several times over.

Example #3 is simply Greig vs. Nyqvist. Without getting too into it, most people who study the draft would argue that Greig has one of the highest compete levels among forwards in the entire 2020 class -- the kid doesn't quit on a puck and plays with almost dizzying heart, hustle and motor. Who has the lowest compete level in 2020? You could make an argument for Nyqvist, who would prefer to gift-wrap the puck to the opposition than to take a hit, who if he back-checked half as hard as he beaver-tapped whenever he wanted the puck might have actually been a passable two-way player. Wheeler has Nybeck as high as anyone at #29 overall and Greig at least 20 picks lower than anyone else in the business at #64.

Anyway, Scott Wheeler is great and we should all read him. But, like anyone else in this business (include myself) he has his own biases which need to be scrutinized with the same fairness that he scrutinizes certain players -- like Sanderson, Schneider and Greig.
 

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Example #1 would be that Wheeler has ranked the best defensive defenseman in the draft (Jake Sanderson) as low as I have seen him at #17. He spends his entire write-up of Sanderson not talking about Sanderson but rather rationalizing his own questionable ranking, before ending his write-up with the rationalization -- knowing that Sanderson is a likely top 7 overall pick -- "If the first nine players on my board are gone, I wouldn’t scoff at taking Sanderson as high as 10th-overall in this draft." I laughed at that line, because it's totally cheating in a draft-ranking -- if you rank player so far lower than the consensus that you feel the need to rationalize it, you're essentially admitting uncertainty.

I noticed that right away, haha. "I got him 17, but I donno, maybe he's 10."
 

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