KingsOfCali25
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Neither are Brown and Frk, so whats your point?
The Kings have to play with what they have and move forward from there until they get some good wingers.
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Neither are Brown and Frk, so whats your point?
The Kings have to play with what they have and move forward from there until they get some good wingers.
KingLB
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Hey look, again the board is over looking Iafallo.
I don't think we've seen Iafallo's ceiling (or Kempe's - both were turning a corner at the end of last season), and he's in a contract year. He's going to be shooting the puck a lot, he already said so. Coaches say he was the best guy at camp today, too.
Lias Andersson, looking for a fresh start, is set up to succeed with the Kings
McLellan thought Alex Iafallo was probably the best player on the ice Saturday and praised defenseman Mikey Anderson, a second-year pro, who appeared in six games late last season.
“Mikey, in my mind, has worked his way into our lineup,” McLellan said. “Again, in camp, it looks like he is going to stay there. The amount of poise and the type of plays he makes not only offensively but also defensively is pretty rewarding.”
Lias Andersson, looking for a fresh start, is set up to succeed with the Kings
McLellan thought Alex Iafallo was probably the best player on the ice Saturday and praised defenseman Mikey Anderson, a second-year pro, who appeared in six games late last season.
“Mikey, in my mind, has worked his way into our lineup,” McLellan said. “Again, in camp, it looks like he is going to stay there. The amount of poise and the type of plays he makes not only offensively but also defensively is pretty rewarding.”
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Mikey Anderson is great and was a big part of that late season winning streak. Youd never have known he was a rookie and he seemed to play well with Roy.
No Iaffallo is not a first liner on most teams but it seems Kopitar likes having him on the wing and I hope his production can match his hustle.
No Iaffallo is not a first liner on most teams but it seems Kopitar likes having him on the wing and I hope his production can match his hustle.
Steve Zissou
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Newby Lias Andersson getting praise as well. Would be nice to see him center that third line.
Steve Zissou
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Regarding Mikey Anderson:
“Mikey, in my mind, has worked his way into our lineup,” McLellan said. “Again, in camp, it looks like he is going to stay there. The amount of poise and the type of plays he makes not only offensively but also defensively is pretty rewarding.”
“Mikey, in my mind, has worked his way into our lineup,” McLellan said. “Again, in camp, it looks like he is going to stay there. The amount of poise and the type of plays he makes not only offensively but also defensively is pretty rewarding.”
KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
That should be his spot in the future but Lizotte will start this season in that spot. Only because Coach Todd likes Carter and Lizotte together and Carter won't be on the 4th line. So to the start the season right now you have...
Iafallo--Kopitar--Brown
Kempe--Vilardi--Frk
XXX--Lizotte--Carter
XXX--XXX--XXX
XXX = Andersson, Wagner, Moore, Amadio, Grundstrum, Luff, AA)
I think AA will get the 3rd line LW spot, and the 4th line will end up with Wagner, Andersson, Moore with Grundstrum and Amadio as the 13th and 14th forwards. Luff to Taxi squad. But that won't last long as the lines will change to...
Iafallo--Kopitar--Brown
Kempe--Vilardi--Frk
AA--Andersson--Carter
Grundstrum--Lizotte--Wagner
cyclones22
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With the season starting very soon, I think it's trending at this point that the fourth line is going to be the Swede line. They are getting a lot of press and producing so far as a unit in camp. McClellan specifically talked about not wanting to put players in the line blender. He's trying to build some chemistry with these lines and I just don't see him breaking up these training camp lines at least until they've played a few NHL games together.
That means someone has to hit the waiver wire.
Lizotte and Andersson are waiver exempt FWIW.
Steve Zissou
I'll order you a red cap and a Speedo.
@KingsOfCali25 True, but with that taxi squad and the shortened season + pandemic we are looking at a lot of moving parts.
Hopefully most of the players on all teams can stay safe during the season.
Hopefully most of the players on all teams can stay safe during the season.
All The Kings Men
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"We don't want players who need to be playing sitting on a taxi squad... It makes no sense to have a certain individual that needs to experience games just sitting on a roster because maybe they're close to the NHL."
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KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
And if that is Luff or Amadio than so be it. They are 4th line guys. I'm fine if it is Moore too. It's like a couple of years ago with Nick Shore. If it has to be someone, than be it someone that probably won't be taken
Steve Zissou
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I'm bored with Amadio and Luff.
Both of their games were stalling and I'd even say regressing, so let's what this year brings.
Onward and upward.
Both of their games were stalling and I'd even say regressing, so let's what this year brings.
Onward and upward.
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Luff and Amadio are no brainers to sit more than play without much consequence, though I wonder if they are planning on platooning MacDermid and Clague in the 6th spot. Would it be better to have a vet like Alt in the taxi versus being that veteran presence in the AHL? The Kings taxi squad may very well be all forwards and a 3rd goalie.
Now, if the plan is to give Byfield and Kaliyev some games, that means that there will for sure be nights when players who should be playing games are sitting out, including those two since it would likely be to start the year. Seems like it could be disruptive in a shortened season to wait until 6-10 games in to dress your regular lineup.
KingsFan7824
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Lizotte - 66GP, 6G, 17A, 23Pts, undrafted
Andersson - 66GP, 3G, 6A, 9Pts, 7th overall
True, Blake did give up a 2nd for Andersson, so he should get every chance to fail, but let's wait and see. I also don't know what nasty to play against means. He has 33 PIM's in those 66 games. PIM's ain't what they used to be, and it's certainly not 1987 nasty, but does nasty mean nasty in 2010, or what nasty is in 2020? If he's "nasty", and all we get are a couple aging Dustin Brown love taps from the last few years, we'll all be disappointed.
Athanasiou has also still been in quarantine since camp started. He's going to be on the team, which will likely push guys like Fagemo down. I know we're all sick of the guys who have become non-prospects like Amadio and Luff, but Amadio is making NHL money no matter where he plays, and they just re-signed Luff in Oct.
Andersson - 66GP, 3G, 6A, 9Pts, 7th overall
True, Blake did give up a 2nd for Andersson, so he should get every chance to fail, but let's wait and see. I also don't know what nasty to play against means. He has 33 PIM's in those 66 games. PIM's ain't what they used to be, and it's certainly not 1987 nasty, but does nasty mean nasty in 2010, or what nasty is in 2020? If he's "nasty", and all we get are a couple aging Dustin Brown love taps from the last few years, we'll all be disappointed.
Athanasiou has also still been in quarantine since camp started. He's going to be on the team, which will likely push guys like Fagemo down. I know we're all sick of the guys who have become non-prospects like Amadio and Luff, but Amadio is making NHL money no matter where he plays, and they just re-signed Luff in Oct.
Sorry to be that guy, but no the 2nd Swedish league is 100% worse than the DEL. I do not intend to come off as rude, I just want to clarify the north American perception of the quality of the DEL as euro professional hockey league is something that needs to be fixed. To start, historically the DEL has been regarded as lesser than the other top euro pro leagues. From the leagues inception to roughly 2017/2018 that perception was correct. However, 2 factors have actually lead to pretty rapid evolution of the league. First is creation of the champions hockey league(2014). The next is their commitment to adding youth to the league by adding under 23 roster quotas. The Champions League provides slight insight as to how each leagues top teams stack up. The Champions league does not provide an exact insight into the overall quality of the league, but it does demonstrate how the top Liiga, SHL, DEL, Extraliga, NLA, etc clubs stack up against each other. The amount of teams sent is based on the prior seasons final standings. For the DEL specifically the Champions League has provided them a platform to showcase their top tier stadiums, facilities, and attendance to recruit top euro free agents such as the €163 million 18.5k seat(largest Rink outside NA)cologne stadium, the €165 mill 14.5k seat Berlin Arena(Reichel), lastly the €70 million Euro Adler Mannheim Stadium that produced Moritz Seider, Tim Stützle, and while they left for NA before they reached the DEL Draisaitl and Dominik Kahun played for Mannheim's academy.
The main point is last years 10th place DEL team(10/14) beat and lost in ot to Luela the team that finished 1st in the SHL. Mannheim beat and lost to Djurgarden(6th in the SHL and Alexander Holtz team). EHC Munich beat and lost to Färjestad BK(2nd in SHL). Meanwhile only 1 of 4 Liiga teams advanced to playoffs while all 3 DEL teams advanced.
Essentially the thing I'm trying to get at is no, the 2nd Swedish league is not even close to better than the DEL. The SHL is better but the gap is less than most North Americans seem to realize. Also I'd highly consider keeping eye on the leagues evolution because the gap will only continue to shrink with how much better their funding/facilities are than other leagues
KingsHockey24
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Amadio is simply Nick Shore 2.0
Great post- very informative. We don’t pay attention to euro hockey too much, so it’s hard to track evolution of quality overseas.
BringTheReign
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Honestly, most of the scouting reports I've seen say Andersson's PIMs were due to him not moving his feet enough. That's the wrong kind, and him continuing to do that will have him in Ontario real quick.
He's definitely feisty in front of and around the net, and I think that's what people hope to see. That type of play will hopefully lead to more drawn penalties, a la fellow countrymen Patric Hornqvist and Tomas Holmstrom.
BringTheReign
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Outstanding post, thank you for taking the time to write it up! Side note, any advice on how a North American hockey fan can watch more European pro hockey? I'm tired of trying of friends trying to coerce me into becoming a European football fan; I just want more hockey.
Pretty self explanatory.
Hey look, Iafallo's 27 and with a career high of 17 goals. I'm not saying he's bad by any stretch, but the fact that he's "the best player in camp" should tell you all you need to know about this team.
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Luc and Rob are a waste of time and money.
If the Kings average close to or over 3 goals a game, I consider the season a success. With that needs to come an improved power play.
This season is really on Coach Todd to earn his paycheck and get his staff to generate more production on offense. The excuses about needing to teach a new system and overturn the roster expired last year.
If the Kings fall back to trying to win games 2-1, I’d consider the plan to return to the playoffs off track.
This season is really on Coach Todd to earn his paycheck and get his staff to generate more production on offense. The excuses about needing to teach a new system and overturn the roster expired last year.
If the Kings fall back to trying to win games 2-1, I’d consider the plan to return to the playoffs off track.
Iafallo put up .61 P/GP last season, which put him as the 36th best LW in the league. With 31 teams in the league, he paced just outside of top line LW numbers. He seems to be a pretty solid second line left winger, scoring around the same as guys like DeBrincat, Rakell, Jamie Benn, Brady Tkachuk, etc.
I think the tough thing is that Kopitar needs certain types of players to play with and Iafallo fits very nicely. If he can keep Kopitar producing then that will allow us to spread out the offense more down the road. I don't think teams do top 6 anymore, the emphasis is more on a top 9 with more scoring depth spread through the lineup.
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I mean the Kings biggest downfall in recent history is the fact that Carter fell off the face of the world. If he does decently then that's a big improvement for the team.
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