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How many goals did Bozak's line give up during his time in Toronto? I wouldn't be surprised if they gave up more goals than they scored. They were brutal defensively.
Prospect Info: 2020 1st Rd Selection - #15 OA - LW Rodion Amirov (RUS) - 6'0", 177lbs Part II
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Patrice Bergeron would give up goals if his wingers were Kessel and Van Riemsdyk.
Wafflewhipper
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They were a combined 101 goals minus one year. I think thats the number. Really bad where you can say yeah ok plus/ minus does actually mean something in this case. It improved when Jvr and Bozy got Marner significantly. Both bozak and JVR had career years with Marner in the way they played defense also.
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Those numbers always make me remember that Ovechkin was once -35 in a season he scored 51 goals.
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The two extremes yes. Wasn't trying to say anything I just find it hilarious that he ended up there.
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RomanianLeafs
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Are we really comparing a very talented kid and a winger with a garbage center like Bozak who played 1st line center on a garbage leafs roster for many years? Seriously..
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Hey everyone,
A special look today at Rodion Amirov's most recent KHL performance with Ufa. This was against SKA on November 28, 2020, his last match before the WJC tournament.
And a profile of his style of play in my latest with Dobber.
Prospect Ramblings: Yegor Chinakhov, Rodion Amirov, Klim Kostin
A special look today at Rodion Amirov's most recent KHL performance with Ufa. This was against SKA on November 28, 2020, his last match before the WJC tournament.
And a profile of his style of play in my latest with Dobber.
Prospect Ramblings: Yegor Chinakhov, Rodion Amirov, Klim Kostin
Thanks for this, excellent footage and writeup! Agreed that his current strengths are his great hands, creativity and agility, as well as his shot and compete level, to a lesser extent. While his strength, physicality, defensive play, trying to do too much 1-on-1, and off-the-puck breakout positioning are all weaknesses at the moment. He’s a talented, high upside pick, but a few years from being ready to make an impact at the NHL level.
Excited to watch him at the WJCs too! He should be one of Russia’s best and most exciting players.
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For a player comparable, how does someone like Ondrej Palat sound?
Both strong two way players with skill
Both strong two way players with skill
Curious as to why you think his defensive play and positioning are weaknesses.
My first thoughts were that this kid seems pretty smart and shifty. Judging by his awareness and compete level, he seems like a guy that can develop into a decent two-way forward. He's not physical but found himself in the right spots often, like on his goal that was made possible by his work-ethic back-checking.
Is he playing on a larger rink? My only concern is whether he would feel as comfortable constantly keeping his feet moving on a smaller rink if that was in fact a larger rink he was playing on.
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Boz had nice hands and good anticipation and instincts in the offensive zone, but was held back by his average speed and shot and above average (but not elite) vision.
Amirov has nasty hands and elite speed, a great arsenal of shots and good vision. He already plays a nice 200 foot game as well.
I don't know if he is better, but I think he has better tools than Robertson, let him cook for a few years and put on some strength and he could have Willy level upside.
Amirov has nasty hands and elite speed, a great arsenal of shots and good vision. He already plays a nice 200 foot game as well.
I don't know if he is better, but I think he has better tools than Robertson, let him cook for a few years and put on some strength and he could have Willy level upside.
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I've watched 3 games for Russia, and I have to to admit during the pre-lim game I read the player numbers wrong, I thought Amirov was #9 and Abramov was #27. Anyway I'm taking in the pre-lim game and thinking this Amirov kid is kinda ok, but I'm not seeing the intensity and drive I heard about, meanwhile I'm thinking the Abramov pick was a steal lol. I finally tune into the Russia/Austria game and see #27 just grind in the corner and get the puck to the point, which ends up in the net. I'm thinking to myself this kid is like Hyman at times, then I realize it's Amirov (insert facepalm meme).
Amirov looks like a perfect mid round pick for the Leafs. He's not elite like the top picks in the draft, but he has outstanding core skills that the Leafs need. Can be tough in the corners, can score, and very likely hold his own when playing with an elite player. Once this kid puts on some muscle mass, he will be a great fit on either of the top 2 lines.
Amirov looks like a perfect mid round pick for the Leafs. He's not elite like the top picks in the draft, but he has outstanding core skills that the Leafs need. Can be tough in the corners, can score, and very likely hold his own when playing with an elite player. Once this kid puts on some muscle mass, he will be a great fit on either of the top 2 lines.
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Really strange comp tbh, given that they show no similarities in skillset.
Amirov is fast, Bozak is slow.
Amirov is great defensively, Bozak is bad defensively.
Amirov has a great shot, Bozak has a bad one.
Etc.
If we're looking for an ex-leaf comparison to Amirov the one I would go with is maybe Alex Steen. Not a perfect comp but similar overall - natural two-way wingers with excellent skating and IQ, and with very good but maybe not super elite skill.
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I see the potential but he still doesn't stand out like I'd like a first round pick you. Maybe I set my expectations a little higher.. but I do feel that team Russia isn't utilizing him to his full potential yet, still early in the tournament though to see another gear in him and I hope Russian coaches can try trusting him with more ice time.
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Definitely wears his influences on his sleeve down to replicating the goal celebrations.
Love this pick even more
Love this pick even more
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I think he is, but I meant the way Russia is playing in general this tourney. At times they have no answer to the other team especially if they play the trap.. I don't think there play style compliments the skilled players on this Russian team, but I could be wrong.. still a lot of tourney left.
I am not sure what you mean by that? You forget this is his first WJC. If you look at players who are excelling, they have already played in this tourny last year. One year at that age makes a huge difference. You go from a boy to a man
Zegras, Stutzle, Paterka, Pedzo(his linemate), Coezens, Byfield......... They have all have played last year
Give him another year, let him grow into a man's body.
Alex Lafarnier last year had 1 point and looked lost many times. By that comparison, Amirov is doing great in a Russian Team. Not an easy team to crack and play on first line and leading the team in scoring
I think the best part about Amirov is how he puts up 3 points but he isn't standing out alot. He looks like a team player... passes the puck instead of holding onto it, good forechecking... etc etc. Not seeing alot of stupid passes, over handling... etc. He looks very poised and makes good decisions with be puck.
He isn't doing the look at me plays all game, but shows up on the scoresheet 3 times (could've been 4).
He isn't doing the look at me plays all game, but shows up on the scoresheet 3 times (could've been 4).
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I feel like people complaining about Amirov are expecting him dangling through teams for highlight reel goals.
It's clear he plays a mature smart game, is dedicated to 2 way play and the skill/IQ is obvious watching him.
I wasn't too thrilled about another winger in the first round but the more I see this kid play it's hard not to like this pick and obvious what Dubas sees.
It's clear he plays a mature smart game, is dedicated to 2 way play and the skill/IQ is obvious watching him.
I wasn't too thrilled about another winger in the first round but the more I see this kid play it's hard not to like this pick and obvious what Dubas sees.
i’ve complained a bit and for me it’s been more about his tenacity on the puck. he hasn’t seemed to pressure his man into making a decision when he has the puck, he’s not on the forecheck in the OZ, not digging around the boards often in the DZ.
from scouting reports it felt like these should be in his repertoire, so i need to adjust what i’m looking for.
he does have a good stick. he’s good on his skates. I’ve noticed he can get through the neutral zone but has struggled a bit to get time and space to setup in the OZ. Some poor shot selection, but those last 2 points were in like 1 game a few days ago, maybe vs US (couldn’t catch the sweden game).
Anyone who has read about amirov probably was not expecting sick dangles.
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Fair enough, I would agree in that I haven't seen him being as much of a puck hound as some would suggest in the O Zone.
I've really liked his ability to strip guys of the puck and from what I've seen he plays a strong possession game once he does get it back which falls in line with the Dubas philosophy.
I can definitely see some parallels to Nylander in that he isn't always hounding the puck but is always in a good position to interrupt plays and get offense going the other way.
