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Cappuccino said:
Maybe Kaliyev will be available.

I would also consider trading down a couple of spots and grab another pick.
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Kaliyev is, imo, more likely to go top 10 than he is to slip to 40... Just can't see it happening. But if by some incredible fortune he did, you run to the podium trying to look calm and collected... :)

Ethen Keppen is the power forward we should be targetting, I reckon...
 
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Le Rosbeef said:
Kaliyev is, imo, more likely to go top 10 than he is to slip to 40... Just can't see it happening. But if by some incredible fortune he did, you run to the podium trying to look calm and collected... :)

Ethen Keppen is the power forward we should be targetting, I reckon...
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I see him slipping to like pick 35 and guess at that point someone will take him. Would Leason be someone you would take?

Keppen was ranked in the Black Book at 90th overall, not that it does mean anything. Might be a good pick with 91 overall, although he might also be gone by then.
 
Cappuccino said:
I see him slipping to like pick 35 and guess at that point someone will take him. Would Leason be someone you would take?

Keppen was ranked in the Black Book at 90th overall, not that it does mean anything. Might be a good pick with 91 overall, although he might also be gone by then.
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Actually that means that DW grabs him at 41 .. :D
 
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Im not all that up to date on this draft, but I think picking up a center with our first pick would be the ideal. With Jumbo and Pavs getting up there/ leaving, it couldn't hurt to hope a second rounder becomes a 2nd line center in the future
 
themelkman said:
Im not all that up to date on this draft, but I think picking up a center with our first pick would be the ideal. With Jumbo and Pavs getting up there/ leaving, it couldn't hurt to hope a second rounder becomes a 2nd line center in the future
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I think we pick the BPA as long as its not a goalie. This pick is most likely not NHL ready till atleast 2021-22 and who knows how our roster looks like then.

We can use more wingers, centers and D-men. While the D looks packed right now, we only have 3 D-men signed long term. Simek may or may not return in 2020-21. Who knows if any of our other D-men are good enough for the NHL.
 
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Fistfullofbeer said:
I think we pick the BPA as long as its not a goalie. This pick is most likely not NHL ready till atleast 2021-22 and who knows how our roster looks like then.

We can use more wingers, centers and D-men. While the D looks packed right now, we only have 3 D-men signed long term. Simek may or may not return in 2020-21. Who knows if any of our other D-men are good enough for the NHL.
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It wouldn't hurt at all to get a d-man we think can step up in 2-3 years and bring some fresh legs to the team. We only have two real young d in the system so it would help add some depth to our prospects.
 
Beecher probably checks the most boxes as a big center/low who can skate. Not sure if he has too a high ceiling on O.

Tracey knows how to score but he’s smaller with decent wheels has high hockey IQ with questionable defensive play.
 
themelkman said:
Im not all that up to date on this draft, but I think picking up a center with our first pick would be the ideal. With Jumbo and Pavs getting up there/ leaving, it couldn't hurt to hope a second rounder becomes a 2nd line center in the future
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Rather find a power forward winger that can skate. Would be more physically developed, not have as much responsibility as a center, and can play sooner on the bottom 6 due to their size. I don’t love a lot of our system right now for bottom 6 roles as there is not a lot of size.

I think Gregor could be one that plays a role next year given he’s a bit older than the Ch twins and plays a more rugged style, but we need to find some cheap guys in the system to fill out the lower lines and can PK and be trusted defensively as we move forward given how much money our top guys are making. Not saying we need a bunch of Martin’s and Schoenborn’s, but we could use some guys like Sundqvist or Barbashev that can skate, play physical, and have scoring touch.
 
Things our system really needs:

-Franchise forward
-Top 6 centers
-High end #3 center
-Top 4 LHD
-Top 6 wing

You can never have too many skilled bottom 6 guys who bring speed, grit, pk ability, and can produce 20 points. Those types of guys end up costing 2.5-3.5M in free agency, but if you can get the Sorensen's of the world with late picks you'll save yourself some frustration.

In short we need everything, but I'd be thrilled to get a guy who projects as a high-end #3 C. Similarly, I'd be happy to get a boom/bust top 6 guy. If a d-man with top four potential falls to 41, that ain't bad either.
 
Based on what we’ve seen from DWJR so far, Arthur Kaliyev sounds like a Sharks pick.

Is it crazy to think that we could trade Brenden Dillon and #41 for Arthur Kaliyev if he drops to the 20-30 range?
 
I really just dont think we need more bottom six wingers in the pipeline. We have Goodrow, Sorenson, Karlsson, and Radil already playing and Yurtaikin, Bergmann, the C's, Blitchfeld, Suomela, and Perron as guys who could play the roles in the future.
 
JoeThorntonsRooster said:
Based on what we’ve seen from DWJR so far, Arthur Kaliyev sounds like a Sharks pick.

Is it crazy to think that we could trade Brenden Dillon and #41 for Arthur Kaliyev if he drops to the 20-30 range?
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I don't see why it would take Dillon AND #41 to move up. If Dillon is involved (which I doubt he will be) him by himself almost gets us into the top 30. I think Dillon + later pick would get us into the 1st round. That said, I don't see many teams in that 20-30 range that Dillon makes a ton of sense for and unless there is a total stud there I would prefer to keep Dillon since the depth of our D is littered with question marks.
 
STL Shark said:
I don't see why it would take Dillon AND #41 to move up. If Dillon is involved (which I doubt he will be) him by himself almost gets us into the top 30. I think Dillon + later pick would get us into the 1st round. That said, I don't see many teams in that 20-30 range that Dillon makes a ton of sense for and unless there is a total stud there I would prefer to keep Dillon since the depth of our D is littered with question marks.
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Non-Sharks fans on this forum say that Dillon is better than Braun but I suspect Braun had much more value around the league. I don't see Dillon getting a pick in the top-40, but if you assume Dillon could get #40 from Vancouver, 40+41 sounds like a decent package to move into the first round.

I agree that the depth of our D is littered with question marks. I just don't think that's an argument for keeping Dillon since I think Dillon is one of those question marks lol.
 
JoeThorntonsRooster said:
Non-Sharks fans on this forum say that Dillon is better than Braun but I suspect Braun had much more value around the league. I don't see Dillon getting a pick in the top-40, but if you assume Dillon could get #40 from Vancouver, 40+41 sounds like a decent package to move into the first round.

I agree that the depth of our D is littered with question marks. I just don't think that's an argument for keeping Dillon since I think Dillon is one of those question marks lol.
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It is arguable. Dillon showed a lot of improvement last year playing with EK65 and I think it helped his value. He also brings physicality which is over-valued in the league. Dillon is also 4 years younger than Braun so teams may be tempted more to invest in Dillon. Very similar values I think.

Will be curious to see what happens tomorrow. I won't be watching the draft because we don't have a guaranteed 1st round pick but would love it if we can somehow land one. Maybe DW just takes the day off .. :)
 
JoeThorntonsRooster said:
Non-Sharks fans on this forum say that Dillon is better than Braun but I suspect Braun had much more value around the league. I don't see Dillon getting a pick in the top-40, but if you assume Dillon could get #40 from Vancouver, 40+41 sounds like a decent package to move into the first round.

I agree that the depth of our D is littered with question marks. I just don't think that's an argument for keeping Dillon since I think Dillon is one of those question marks lol.
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For $3.27 mil I think there are better out there around the league, but I would rather have Dillon (who PDB trusts enough to play 17:45 per game in the RS) than Ryan (who PDB only played 12:45 per game) on the 3rd pairing.

The logical replacement if you trade Dillon would be someone Nemeth, but Dillon is better in my mind and has familiarity in the system and with Karlsson. I would honestly just be content to go grab Lovejoy for $1.5 mil or something to anchor the PK (was 7th in PK mins in the league last year even missing 11 games) and calling it a day on D. Trade Ryan, let Middleton/Desimone be the 7D and go from there on the back end.
 
STL Shark said:
For $3.27 mil I think there are better out there around the league, but I would rather have Dillon (who PDB trusts enough to play 17:45 per game in the RS) than Ryan (who PDB only played 12:45 per game) on the 3rd pairing.

The logical replacement if you trade Dillon would be someone Nemeth, but Dillon is better in my mind and has familiarity in the system and with Karlsson. I would honestly just be content to go grab Lovejoy for $1.5 mil or something to anchor the PK (was 7th in PK mins in the league last year even missing 11 games) and calling it a day on D. Trade Ryan, let Middleton/Desimone be the 7D and go from there on the back end.
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It's not necessarily Joakim Ryan on the 3rd pairing. It's two of Ryan, Ferraro, Simek, and Middleton down your left side. I don't think that's a great option but I don't think keeping Dillon is much better and I don't want to extend Dillon so I would try and maximize value on him.

The Dillon replacements on the market are pretty bare bones after Edler signed. Jake Gardiner is the only legit top-4 LHD and I like him, but we simply can't afford to pay him the Kevin Hayes contract that he is probably going to get from somebody. I don't think we have the assets for Gostisbehere and I'm not sure who else is going to get traded. I'd gladly take Lovejoy for the 3rd pairing.
 
Finished doing all my draft research and here are the realistic players I’d like us to take. Bolded are guys I’ve followed a bit throughout the year as they all play for or are committed to UMass.

If we trade into the first round(unrealistic)
-Peyton Krebs
-Ryan Suzuki
-Arthur Kaliyev

Sticking with early 2nd round pick
-Matthew Robertson
-Alex Vlasic
-Philip Tomasino
-Nolan Foote
-Jayden Struble
-Zac Jones - going to UMass where Ferraro/Makar were under a great coach for d-men Doug Carvel

Trade into Later 2nd round or keep Third Round
-Marc Del Gaizo - have written a ton about him here, just finished freshman year at UMass. Tory Krug-lite.
-Aaron Huglen
-Jackson Lacombe
-Adam Beckman
-Kirill Slepets
-Anttoni Honka
-Ronnie Attard

Later Rounds
-Filip Lindberg- UMass goalie I’ve written about a bunch here. Huge 2nd half of season with run to NCAA title game. True freshman. Very athletic and great positioning.
 
I think Dillon is Karlsson’s primary partner this year. We need our remaining cap space to fill out the top 6 forwards. Dillon and Karlsson have shown some chemistry and compliment each other. Specifically, Karlsson’s biggest weakness is his lack of physicality. Particularly, in front of the net. It makes sense to give EK65 a partner that excels in that area so he can let him do the heavy lifting. I would love to upgrade Dillon, but I think the $11.5 million #1 d man needs to carry the 4-5 tweener so we can spend our resources elsewhere.
 
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