Pre-Game Talk: 2019 NHL Draft, Pt. V: Got your ticket? (Mod note in pinned post)

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You are viewing this through a Canucks lens. Do you think the best offer EDM will get to dump Lucic involves throwing in their best prospect? No way. Also, Canucks can’t afford to have Lucic and Loui on the books. If they do, we may as well trade Elias for futures and plan for the playoffs in 2025 as they won’t be able to resign him. Try selling your plan to the Oilers or better yet the Aquilinis

He's not entirely wrong. The Canucks could put Eriksson in the AHL if needed to free up cap. The problem is, Benning basically has to make the playoffs this year to save his job. Why take on salary for prospects when you likely wont be a part of a future.

Edit: Which is why you either commit to Benning past this season, or fire him now and bring in someone who has the confidence to make the right decisions for the organization.
 
The more I hear Ken Holland speak, it's quite clear he won't trade any of his prospects including Puljujarvi. The only sweetener I see him offering his moving up two spots in the draft, meaning it would be a Lucic + 8th for Eriksson +10 type of trade.

maybe this happens if a certain player the canucks want is still there at 8th.

in the datsyuk deal, holland engineered a cap dump as part of a 1st round pick swap that looked good on paper for him, but it only happened because arizona wanted chycrun badly.
 
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He's not entirely wrong. The Canucks could put Eriksson in the AHL if needed to free up cap. The problem is, Benning basically has to make the playoffs this year to save his job. Why take on salary for prospects when you likely wont be a part of a future.

Edit: Which is why you either commit to Benning past this season, or fire him now and bring in someone who has the confidence to make the right decisions for the organization.

or you require sign off on every personnel decision benning makes. which i am pretty sure acquillini does anyway.
 
He's not entirely wrong. The Canucks could put Eriksson in the AHL if needed to free up cap. The problem is, Benning basically has to make the playoffs this year to save his job. Why take on salary for prospects when you likely wont be a part of a future.

Edit: Which is why you either commit to Benning past this season, or fire him now and bring in someone who has the confidence to make the right decisions for the organization.
Sending Loui to the minors doesn’t help their cap. The savings would be the league minimum salary - roughly $800k
 
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HI! I'm a Canadiens fan and I'm asking other teams fans what are the first need you have to adress with your first pick. The Canadiens needs to find a winger (powerforward or goal scorer) and secondly, a top4 D. Cheers!

We’re pretty good at center with Pettersson and Horvat and I think we’re probably okay in goal with Markstrom and Demko. Our defence is thin at best and we need some elite wingers for our centres.

That said, we’re quite a way off from putting a contending team together and there is no reason why we shouldn’t always be taking the BPA regardless of position. As things stand, Horvat will probably be our team President by the time we make the finals again.
 
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maybe this happens if a certain player the canucks want is still there at 8th.

in the datsyuk deal, holland engineered a cap dump as part of a 1st round pick swap that looked good on paper for him, but it only happened because arizona wanted chycrun badly.

Only situation that would even tickle my interest in this would be if by some miracle Byram dropped to 8th. Highly unlikely, but that's the only thing that would make me budge on trading up from 10.
 
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This is my best reading of the tea leaves, with some fingers crossing as well:

1 NJ Hughes
2 NYR Kakko
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3 Chi Byram -> defense is an .org strength but feels BPA
4 Col Dach -> have heard forwards for Col even if Byram is available so I don’t think it is too dependent on what Chi does. Could be Turcotte but feel like Dach’s 6’4 frame and skill set combo will sell them on him.
5 LA Podkolzin -> LA is tough to read and they could easily go for Turcotte or Cozens here but I feel like they’ll lean towards a power forward type who fits their heavy style and Podkolzin still has a lot of fans in the scouting world. Being a winger hurts him but his intensity is something NHL scouts and GMs drool over.
6 Detroit Turcotte -> A small fall for Turcotte who could go as high as #3 but I feel a bit of size bias could tumble him to #6, which makes Detroit scuttle plans to take Zegras and opt for Larkin 2.0 instead.
7 Buffalo Cozens -> Tough to project what Buffalo will do but based on the board so far Cozens seems like a reasonably likely outcome. Size, pace, and ability to play wing with Eichel or Mittelstadt. Could also see Boldy or Caufield going here, probably not Zegras though.
8 Edmonton Broberg -> As per heavy speculation. If Broberg goes earlier I feel like Krebs could be their next choice, depending on his medical prognosis.
9 Anaheim Seider -> This one is a true guess, but I feel like Anaheim will be the wildcard of the top 10. With several tantalizing forward options like Boldy, Zegras, Krebs, Newhook, and Caufield available, they surprise and take a right-handed Hampus Lindholm clone to rebuild their no-longer-young-and-deep defense core. With the trades of Vatanen and Montour in recent years, their right side looks depleted and Seider has immense potential.

All this creates a path for Vancouver to have its choice of:

Zegras (their top target IMO)
Newhook (their possible #2)
Krebs (a possible option pending medical reports)
Boldy (unclear as to their interest but fits the recent “all things being equal we’d like to draft size” comments)
Soderstrom (if their opt for positional need over BPA)


I agree with your Vancouver priority order. I think they like Krebs more than Boldy. Just a hunch.

CHI - I think they take Turcotte. With things being even, I think they go with a building block up front and figure out their defense elsewhere.

COL - Jumps at taking Byram. This is exactly what they are looking for.

LA - I think they go with Cozens. Size and speed with a good shot. Plays centre. So they get to push their recent mantra of getting faster all while most of their older target criteria are satisfied.

DET - They take Dach. Yzerman went after CHLers and Russians with is first picks in Tampa. Podkolzin is also the other option, but I think they see a positional fit with Dach. Big and skilled centres are hard to come by.

BUF - Boldy all the way. The fact that he played centre before this year clinches it. If they need to push Mittlestadt to wing, they can move Boldy to centre. Otherwise, he checks off every box for them.

EDM - Broberg. Agreed. Too much smoke.

ANA - Initially I would have said Krebs. Yes, even before Zegras. Now, I think it's Podkolzin. Bob Murray hasn't shown a predisposition to taking Russians, but the value of this player being available at #9 is too much to forgo. ANA takes the faller. Seider is a good guess too. He along with Suzuki confirmed that they had interviewed with ANA.

VAN - Zegras.


Of course, ANA could take Zegras and crush hopes...

Generally, I think Dach and Cozens are gone in the 5-7 spots. The remaining team will take on of Podkolzin/Boldy. Then, EDM follows with Broberg. After them, it's the faller of Boldy/Podkolzin, or an off the board pick like Seider. Then VAN takes their BPA.
 
I agree with your Vancouver priority order. I think they like Krebs more than Boldy. Just a hunch.

CHI - I think they take Turcotte. With things being even, I think they go with a building block up front and figure out their defense elsewhere.

COL - Jumps at taking Byram. This is exactly what they are looking for.

LA - I think they go with Cozens. Size and speed with a good shot. Plays centre. So they get to push their recent mantra of getting faster all while most of their older target criteria are satisfied.

DET - They take Dach. Yzerman went after CHLers and Russians with is first picks in Tampa. Podkolzin is also the other option, but I think they see a positional fit with Dach. Big and skilled centres are hard to come by.

BUF - Boldy all the way. The fact that he played centre before this year clinches it. If they need to push Mittlestadt to wing, they can move Boldy to centre. Otherwise, he checks off every box for them.

EDM - Broberg. Agreed. Too much smoke.

ANA - Initially I would have said Krebs. Yes, even before Zegras. Now, I think it's Podkolzin. Bob Murray hasn't shown a predisposition to taking Russians, but the value of this player being available at #9 is too much to forgo. ANA takes the faller. Seider is a good guess too. He along with Suzuki confirmed that they had interviewed with ANA.

VAN - Zegras.


Of course, ANA could take Zegras and crush hopes...

Generally, I think Dach and Cozens are gone in the 5-7 spots. The remaining team will take on of Podkolzin/Boldy. Then, EDM follows with Broberg. After them, it's the faller of Boldy/Podkolzin, or an off the board pick like Seider. Then VAN takes their BPA.

I think COL needs a 2C more than defense, but if Byram is there at 4 then hard to say no to that.
 
Just a gut feeling, but I think that with some of the teams ahead of them drafting for 'need' rather than 'BPA', the three wingers Zegras, Podkolzin or Boldy could all still on the board at #10....now that would be a real tough decision for Benning and the Canucks.
 
Hot take prediction: Benning takes Seider at 10. All this about bringing in players for interviews is just smoke and mirrors

He finally gets his big RHD he has wanted for so long and after watching the Blues' run, hopes he can become our version of Pietrangelo

Hughes-Seider pairing becomes one of the top pairings in the league and eats up 25+ minutes a night for us

Also who is that Canucks insider poster and who does he have us drafting this year??
 
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Boldy, Zegras, Dach or Cozens will likely be available at our pick. Just take one of them and I’ll be content. Krebs, Caufield, Newhook, Podkolzin are not high upside players like those 4 I mentioned. Big, skilled centres that dominate puck possession, they have franchise player potential unlike the others after the big 3.
 
Boldy, Zegras, Dach or Cozens will likely be available at our pick. Just take one of them and I’ll be content. Krebs, Caufield, Newhook, Podkolzin are not high upside players like those 4 I mentioned. Big, skilled centres that dominate puck possession, they have franchise player potential unlike the others after the big 3.

No way cozens let alone dach is available.
 
If Bowen Byram is available at 5 I’d trade up and make the deal.

He’s going to be special and the best defender in the dub since Seth Jones (Ivan Provorov was really good too)

I really see a franchise level defender there.
 
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I think COL needs a 2C more than defense, but if Byram is there at 4 then hard to say no to that.


You could be right. Cozens/Dach have the upside as well.

Could go:

3. Turcotte
4. Cozens
5. Dach
6. Byram
7. Boldy
8. Broberg

Basically, the combination of Turcotte, Cozens, Dach and Byram go in the top6 in some order. That much seems reasonable. Then, BUF takes Boldy while EDM takes Broberg. ANA is then the truly variable pick. They could go with Zegras, Krebs, Seider, Podkolzin, Caufield or Newhook here.

If BUF instead takes Zegras, then ANA takes Boldy.

The 'worst case' still seems to leave VAN with Newhook, which is fine. The best case has 1 change to that top8 that does not involve Zegras, leaving him there to be chosen by VAN.

Does anyone have intel on what ANA wants?
 
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I think if we are taking a forward and you have say zegras, newhook, boldy, and Krebs available I'd look at the guys who can play center and wing and take the best of the bunch. Having a guy who can play in the top 6 and slide into center if someone is hurt is a great thing to have.

if Byram is there at 5 I'd take a serious look at what we could do to move up and get him. It's one of the scenarios where swapping eriksson and lucic and our first for Edmontons to move up to 8 makes most sense as LA if they are looking at a forward might be happier moving back to 8 and still having lots of guys on the board to pick from as opposed to moving back to 10
 
If Bowen Byram is available at 5 I’d trade up and make the deal.

He’s going to be special and the best defender in the dub since Seth Jones (Ivan Provorov was really good too)

I really see a franchise level defender there.

What would LA want though? They need skill everywhere in their prospect pool as well.
 
You could be right. Cozens/Dach have the upside as well.

Could go:

3. Turcotte
4. Cozens
5. Dach
6. Byram
7. Boldy
8. Broberg

Basically, the combination of Turcotte, Cozens, Dach and Byram go in the top6 in some order. That much seems reasonable. Then, BUF takes Boldy while EDM takes Broberg. ANA is then the truly variable pick. They could go with Zegras, Krebs, Seider, Podkolzin, Caufield or Newhook here.

If BUF instead takes Zegras, then ANA takes Boldy.

The 'worst case' still seems to leave VAN with Newhook, which is fine. The best case has 1 change to that top8 that does not involve Zegras, leaving him there to be chosen by VAN.

Does anyone have intel on what ANA wants?
Sounds like the same-ish names are being thrown out there for the ducks too..... zegras, newhook, Krebs, boldy.
 
Colorado might be targeting a forward as well.



That'll be Zegras right after Turcotte. I assume LA runs to the podium and selects Byram. It'll get a little crazy after that because I think the Wings are also hoping for Zegras or Byram, and haven't heard how they feel about Dach.

Assume this top 5: Hughes, Kakko, Turcotte, Zegras, Byram

After that it'll get weird. No idea where Podkolzin or Broberg will go. I assume Krebs is now outside the top 10. The most likely guy to fall to us in that situation is probable Cozens or Boldy. My hunch is that Podkolzin and Caufield are outside the top 10, but Broberg is somewhere in there.

So the final 5, in some order, is likely: Dach, Cozens, Boldy, Broberg, and Newhook.

It's safe to assume we're getting a good player. Likely Newhook.

One thing is that I could see Detroit going off board and actually taking Newhook if Zegras is gone.
 
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