OT: 2019 Football Thread: Part III – Danny Dimes and Sammy Spleens Edition
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LeetchisGod
This is a bad hockey team.
Guys who put themselves before the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them, can't do it!
East Coast Bias
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This is like asking "How many teams have won SBs with guys who I said can't win SBs?"
I'm gonna guess your answer is always zero!
LeetchisGod
This is a bad hockey team.
My point is that you don't need an all pro caliber receiver to win in the NFL. Particularly ones that have major personality flaws that negatively affect team comradery.
JCProdigy
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While I wont disagree with your first sentence at all, just looking at the poster boys for prima WRs...Plaxico didn't stop the Giants from winning the SB in 07. Moss was an integral part of the Pats team that went to the SB the same year. TO was also a huge weapon on that 04 Eagles team that lost a close SB to the Pats.
For us fans, are they annoying as hell? Yep. For their teams can they be more trouble than they're worth? Sometimes, but you surround them with a good team and their talent wins out. Antonio Brown is a nut but the Steelers record with him as their 1WR is undeniable.
ponzu4u
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Barnaby
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You don't necessarily need one, but to act like an all-pro WR doesn't help is a bit much. That's like saying you don't need an all-pro QB bc Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco, and the ghost of Peyton won Super Bowls. Sure, you'd be right, but you certainly have a much better shot with one.
Michael Irvin, Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, and Plaxico off the top of my head. Plenty more were integral in getting to the super bowl. Owens, Moss, Julio Jones, and I think you can put a guy like Gronk in that conversation with Edelman.
That's not to say a mentally ill guy like AB or a distraction like OBJ can't be a detriment. Would you honestly say Hopkins, Julio Jones, and Michael Thomas aren't serious contributors?
Boris Zubov
No relation to Sergei, Joe
Isaac Bruce was the furthest thing from a distraction. Guy didn't say two words, he just played football. Torry Holt was no diva either, he just played with a huge smile on his face.
Barnaby
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I didn’t mean that they were all “divas” just that all-pro WR’s are very key parts of winning teams. I get the idea of divas being an issue but I felt the original poster was diminishing the role of high end WR’s in general saying you don’t need them hence my QB example. I could’ve added Marvin Harrison to my list - another non diva. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
Obviously I want no part of AB ever, and I’d have to see major growing up from OBJ. At the same time some divas - TO, Moss, Irvin were really successful although I never really wanted any part.
Lousy writing on my part, sorry.
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KirkAlbuquerque
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Sad times when Powell has been way better than Bell this season. Also looks like Gase is utilizing his backs now that Bell is out. What a prick lol.
JimmyG89
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The way things are going without Bell, really can't help but think he's gonna get traded in the offseason.
Gase didn't want him and you can see just from this game. I'll take whatever we can get if the coach doesn't want him. Maybe could get a 2nd at this rate.
Gase didn't want him and you can see just from this game. I'll take whatever we can get if the coach doesn't want him. Maybe could get a 2nd at this rate.
KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
makes sense. ud have a PI call on literally every fake punt as the gunners get blocked by the def/receiving team.
Fitzy
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No it's a real rule. Happened in the New Orleans game.
Bob Richards
Mr. Mojo Risin'
Apparently its real.
The call in question was like a disastrously obvious PI and there was nothing and no challenge either lol
Miami winning would probably go a long way to helping the Giants. The Falcons winning is huge too. Also, go Bengals!
RangerBlues
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KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
Much like the Rangers vs Columbus the other night, totally hollow victory. Gase was abysmal and Sam didn’t look great.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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17futurecap
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Just a brutal Jets win, what a waste.
Hopefully they lose their next three.
Hopefully they lose their next three.
Please win or make it a good game. would be nice to see New England sweat a little knowing they won't get the luxury of having every single freaking playoff game at home.
They are a such a tease if they won last week against a terrible Bengals team they would have at least had a little hope in making the playoffs now (like the team I root for the Broncos) they are losing out on a top 5 pick and not making the playoffs...albeit Lock did look good today
