Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall

[King'sPawn]

Hoven just published this article on Byram, of which I was a contributor. Nothing particularly new, to diehard followers, but we're looking to post more of these leading up to the draft.

2019 NHL Draft Preview: Bowen Byram, WHL Defenseman

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Hoven just published this article on Byram, of which I was a contributor. Nothing particularly new, to diehard followers, but we're looking to post more of these leading up to the draft.

2019 NHL Draft Preview: Bowen Byram, WHL Defenseman

Any chance there going to do one on Arthur Kaliyev ? I have heard the mayor mention him as a possible target

 

[AzKing]

Prospects are so overvalued on these boards, all these prospects/picks mentioned have just as much a chance of being a busts as playing top minutes for us.

You draft for potential. How you develop your prospects is every bit as important as who you draft. That is how you separate great players in your system from busts. It isn't just a coin flip. There are reasons why some franchises tend to have better ROI's than others.

 

[Kingsfan1]

Would we not hope that a guy that they pick overall at #5 would be a future #1 and not a #2 or #3? When you aim that high, you are expecting a guy who can carry the load. He has to be a complete Defenseman. When I think of a #3, I think AMart and wouldn't be picking AMart at #5 overall. Just like whatever Forward is there, he should have the upside of being in the Top 3. He may not make it ultimately, but he should have that skillset. I don't want to draft a potential 2nd line guy this high. I would rather trade down if those are the expectations. This is a future defining draft pick. Byram has to be all that and then some. Chicago, as an example can afford to have him be a #2/#3 at best because 6 of their top 10 prospects are Defensemen.

I may be aiming high here but I have always felt that a Top 5 pick should have the ceiling of being the car and not the power windows. I want a guy who slots into being your top prospect and not a complementary player.

Your’e right , correction solid top number 1-2 dman. It’s definitely his potential . But some people are not as enthusiastic as others

 

[YP44]

Prospects are so overvalued on these boards, all these prospects/picks mentioned have just as much a chance of being a busts as playing top minutes for us.

true, but when it is May 13th and you're a fan of a team coming off the shit season LA just had what else can you look forward to?

 

[King'sPawn]

Any chance there going to do one on Arthur Kaliyev ? I have heard the mayor mention him as a possible target

Kaliyev is actually going to be next. I chose Dach, Byram, and Kaliyev as the first three based on him mentioning those three specifically.

Otherwise, as written in the article, there's not a set order (i.e. we're not writing based on probability, favorites, etc).

The first 10 articles have already been decided, which should take us pretty close to draft day. If there's still time for more, we'll try to do more. Unfortunately, if there are other requests, I can't make promises. I have done my best to target players for various reasons, but I won't be able to hit every prospect.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Prospects are so overvalued on these boards, all these prospects/picks mentioned have just as much a chance of being a busts as playing top minutes for us.

Yea, but what is a team that is probably going to be garbage for 2-3 more years suppose to do?

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Kaliyev is actually going to be next. I chose Dach, Byram, and Kaliyev as the first three based on him mentioning those three specifically.

Otherwise, as written in the article, there's not a set order (i.e. we're not writing based on probability, favorites, etc).

The first 10 articles have already been decided, which should take us pretty close to draft day. If there's still time for more, we'll try to do more. Unfortunately, if there are other requests, I can't make promises. I have done my best to target players for various reasons, but I won't be able to hit every prospect.

Good i was hoping to get more information about him. I can't seem to find that much. So looking forward to reading about him

 

[Sol]

I mean isn't it unlikely Kaliyev would be available at 22?

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I mean isn't it unlikely Kaliyev would be available at 22?

He could be the person we trade up to get or down to get for that matter

 

[LAKings88]

I have a feeling Tomasino is on their radar. Just my gut. Or gas maybe.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Hoven just published this article on Byram, of which I was a contributor. Nothing particularly new, to diehard followers, but we're looking to post more of these leading up to the draft.

2019 NHL Draft Preview: Bowen Byram, WHL Defenseman

Nice concise write up.

For some reason the guy doing the draft central clip reminded me of this

 

[tonellisghost]

Cozens/Turcotte (if there) would be my top two at 5. Easy.

 

[Reaper45]

Cozens/Turcotte (if there) would be my top two at 5. Easy.

No concern of Cozens busting? Would love to see your top 10.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't think it's too crazy to consider Byram's upside in the same vein/tier as Morgan Reilly, a mid-tier #1/top-tier #2 guy, i.e. you aren't drafting him becasue you think he's going to be a top-1o d-man necessarily every year, but players of that caliber on defense are still few and far between.

 

[Mats26]

Why is everyone talking like we have the 3rd overall pick. If Byram falls to 5 then fine but 4 top players will be off the board before our turn. (3 or 4 top forwards will be gone) Getting Byram is out of our control. And even if we do land Byram, here is something to think about.

Iafallo is a stop gap until we get a legit 1st line winger
Brown is 35 next year.... 37 in 2 years if my math is right.
Kopitar will need a reduced role in ~3 years.
Second line? None
Carter, Toffoli are both on their way out. Kovy right after.


So we hope on:
Prokhorkin pans out and is legit top 6.
Wagner become a 20-25 goal scorer in the top 6
Kempe finds his offensive game and becomes 2C.
Kupari plays well in AHL and solidifies a top 6 role in a year/2
Vilardi back has healed and he becomes a legit top 6


That's alot of hopes and prayers for our top 6 F group.

 

[TruKingFan]

Wagner will not be close to 20-25 goals and doubt he'll be in the top-6. Maybe 3rd line 10-15 goals with about 12 mins of IT.

Grundstrom says hello though.

 

[AzKing]

I mean isn't it unlikely Kaliyev would be available at 22?

He has the look of a guy who could score 40 in the NHL. His release is sick. That said, he isn't very familiar with his own end at all. If he played more of a complete game, he would probably be in the top 5-10. It's been said that he is open to improving his overall game though and is not stubborn. If we were fortunate enough to have him drop to us at #22, then I would grab him and say thank you very much.

 

[AzKing]

No concern of Cozens busting? Would love to see your top 10.

I don't think that there is a chance of a bust with any of these guys who will be around when we draft: Byram, Turcotte, Dach, Cozens. That probably stems from what I think a "Bust" is. A bust to me is a guy who ends up as a 3rd or 4th liner when they are expected to be a Top 2 line player. I see nothing in the makeup of these players that suggests that they won't be at least on the 2nd line. They all have high ceilings and low floors. They aren't lazy players either.

 

[KingsHockey24]

New Jersey: Hughes
NYR: Kakko
Chicago: Turcotte
Colorado: Byram
LA: Caufield?
Detroit: Cozens
Buffalo: Dach
Edmonton: Zegras
Anaheim: Boldy
Vancouver: Soderstrom
Philly: Podkolzin

 

[Reaper45]

New Jersey: Hughes
NYR: Kakko
Chicago: Turcotte
Colorado: Byram
LA: Caufield?
Detroit: Cozens
Buffalo: Dach
Edmonton: Zegras
Anaheim: Boldy
Vancouver: Soderstrom
Philly: Podkolzin

No way Podkolzin falls that far. Detroit would take him in a heartbeat. I'd rather take Dach or Cozens over Caufield.

 

[KingsHockey24]

No way Podkolzin falls that far. Detroit would take him in a heartbeat. I'd rather take Dach or Cozens over Caufield.

Does the Kings management want Dach or Cozens though?

I feel like they take the best pure goal scorer available which is Caufield.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Wagner will not be close to 20-25 goals and doubt he'll be in the top-6. Maybe 3rd line 10-15 goals with about 12 mins of IT.

Grundstrom says hello though.

I think he will surprise a lot of people.

Wagner is always present in the crease.

Wagner is our most hidden gem.

 

[kings11]

I think he will surprise a lot of people.

Wagner is always present in the crease.

Wagner is our most hidden gem.

It also seems like his game is catching up to his speed... and his shot is pretty wicked too

 

[kings11]

No love for Samuel Poulin?? kid looks really good and a real good pick for #22..