KingsHockey24
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After Byram I'd imagine we'd take a forward. Maybe a McMichael or Leason.
Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall
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KingsHockey24
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The closer we get to draft day the more I feel like we're gonna land Byram.
Same source as I have had over the past few decades. Sorry as I said that I won't go further then that. Take it for what it is worth.
The Hawks at the combines sure spent allot of time talking all things BByrum. I see them taking him at 3rd overall. In fact I will be very much surprised if they don't.
After that it is a case of horses for courses. Lot's of highly skilled kids with equal amount of talent but different approaches. It will be interesting to see how our pick goes down. I think Turcotte will be there at 5. I could see us taking someone other than him.
Avs take Dach at 4rth. Too good of a fit for them to pass up on imo. All of that said, I totally trust our scouting dept and know that they will have the right player targeted. To me the big question is will Blake listen to them and make the selection that they recommend most or will he go with his gut again. I hope he listens to the crew. They are all over this draft and will get us the BPA given the chance.
The Hawks at the combines sure spent allot of time talking all things BByrum. I see them taking him at 3rd overall. In fact I will be very much surprised if they don't.
After that it is a case of horses for courses. Lot's of highly skilled kids with equal amount of talent but different approaches. It will be interesting to see how our pick goes down. I think Turcotte will be there at 5. I could see us taking someone other than him.
Avs take Dach at 4rth. Too good of a fit for them to pass up on imo. All of that said, I totally trust our scouting dept and know that they will have the right player targeted. To me the big question is will Blake listen to them and make the selection that they recommend most or will he go with his gut again. I hope he listens to the crew. They are all over this draft and will get us the BPA given the chance.
If Byram is gone at #3, do you see LA taking Detroit's offer if their guy is there?
I personally do. I think that if BB and KD are gone then we would be crazy to pass up a deal like that. If BB drops to 5th (i don't see it) then we would be crazy not to take him regardless of what Detroit had to offer (almost).
I still say that it would be great to see ColeC in a kings uni lighting up the scoreboard but Cozens and Turcotte would both be crazy good for us. This draft is one of the best in a long time. Top ten picks all look like locks to make the NHL. After that it is on them.
I still say that it would be great to see ColeC in a kings uni lighting up the scoreboard but Cozens and Turcotte would both be crazy good for us. This draft is one of the best in a long time. Top ten picks all look like locks to make the NHL. After that it is on them.
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Any idea of who the prospect is? if its Zadina or Rasmussen I don't flinch and take the trade but i think the prospect is the key to the deal. Btw great seeing u back TG you were missed on the board more then I have words to say. A voice of reason goes a long way in here.
Thanks for that KC.
I still have no idea what the conditional is but I wonder if it will be a significant one. I have also heard rumors that have Vancouver desperate to move up as high as they can get. They have a great young group and are missing two pieces to put their core together with. I can see them getting into the mix too.
I would like to see us get another 2nd. I have said it before but I think that we could snag GREWE and get a very good Kings style player. We talked to him so here is hoping.
I still have no idea what the conditional is but I wonder if it will be a significant one. I have also heard rumors that have Vancouver desperate to move up as high as they can get. They have a great young group and are missing two pieces to put their core together with. I can see them getting into the mix too.
I would like to see us get another 2nd. I have said it before but I think that we could snag GREWE and get a very good Kings style player. We talked to him so here is hoping.
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Curious if Hawks take Byram at #3 with also having intention of signing Gustafsson to extension would the Kings have interest in trading #5 for Boqvist?
You guys walk away with young RHD top prospect who probably breaks into NHL in 2020-21 season though cant rule out this coming season
Hawks then can grab Cozen or Dach thus walking away with LHD heir for Keith and a C for future
You guys walk away with young RHD top prospect who probably breaks into NHL in 2020-21 season though cant rule out this coming season
Hawks then can grab Cozen or Dach thus walking away with LHD heir for Keith and a C for future
KingCanadain1976
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Hell no for this fan Kings will end up with a high end forward if Byram is picked ahead of 5
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Assuming the Avs take Turcotte? It wouldn't be a bad move but it depends on if the scouts believe he's better than what is available. From what I've read, the Kings board is below...
Turcotte
Byram
Dach
Zegras
Master Yoda
LA Legends
I think Hawks probably would have to add a little.
But then again, if the Hawks go this route, I would think they will look for a guy who can play immediately, not a draft pick.
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I can't get a solid read on Avs' Alan Hepple, but from my understanding\interpretation of his interview, Hawks are sending signals that they are leaning Byram. Heavy scouting in playoffs and extra attention at the combine, etc...
Also:
I think Byram is also #1 on the Avs list and if not available then they are looking at Dach\Turcotte, possibly Cozens. Zegras not in the mix for them at 4. Sakic will make final call.
I can see Turcotte\Dach going either way to Avs or Kings.
I would be surprised if Byram falls to 5.
Also:
I think Byram is also #1 on the Avs list and if not available then they are looking at Dach\Turcotte, possibly Cozens. Zegras not in the mix for them at 4. Sakic will make final call.
I can see Turcotte\Dach going either way to Avs or Kings.
I would be surprised if Byram falls to 5.
I think it's a stretch for him to think York will be there are #22. I expect him to go 15-20. If he is then I would have no problem regardless of who we have drafted already. I think some forwards are going to fall because I expect teams to have a run on Dmen before we leave the top 20. Would not be surprised to see Harley, Seider, York, Broberg, Soderstrom, Heinola and Bjornfort all gone by our next pick. If that happens, then you are looking at guys like Vlasic, Thomson, Robertson and Johnson. None of those guys are inspiring at #22.
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I really like Pronman but his mock drafts suck because he never really takes a position on it. Love his analysis but this is typical for him in his final mock:
At #22
- Chicago: Bowen Byram, D, Vancouver-WHL
- Colorado: Alex Turcotte, C, USNTDP-USHL
- Los Angeles: Kirby Dach, C, Saskatoon-WHL
At #22
- Los Angeles: Bobby Brink, RW, Sioux City-USHL
I believe that both of those guys are going to be there later than #22. They aren't projected first rounders. If we are looking at scoring just going by the chalk line and if players like Kaliyev and Newhook don't magically slide to us here, the guys who are likely to be there and check the boxes are:
Lavoie(Top 6 skillset, speed, hands, size)
Tomasino(Projects as a Top 6 Forward, excellent skater)
Brink(I'm not a fan but he has scoring talent that can't be ignored)
Suzuki(Playmaker, considered a value late in first round)
Anyone want to dig a little deeper and go after the #33 pick? I really like Beecher if he is there. Here is his McKeen's analysis:
On a USNTDP team long on skill and short on size, especially up front, Beecher
was the policeman for much of the year. His inherent skills were held in check
as he provided bodily force, sometimes violent bodily force.
Certain aspects of his game were clearly better than the bottom six type role
he had assumed. Most noticeably, his skating. Not only was he a good skater for
a 6-3”, nearly 210-pound teenager, but his speed was better than many players
four inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter. When he has clear ice in front of him,
he eats it up.
As this season progressed, Beecher became more comfortable using his speed
to create scoring chances. As few players at this level could contain a player of
his size going that fast, he would be less hesitant in taking the puck right to the
goalmouth. The more he did that, the more he showed patience with the puck,
waiting for the goaltender to make a move first before skating around him or
flipping the puck over him. He also showed that his hands work very well in
tight, opening up more ways for him to help his team.
While there are some players of Beecher’s general size who are plus skaters,
many are limited to straight lines. In Beecher’s case, he can play with some
shake and bake as well. He has incredible puck protection abilities as well,
making it exceptionally difficult for opposing defenders to force turnovers from
him.
Like many of his teammates on the program, Beecher is a high IQ player. He is
advanced at reading the play and handles situations appropriately. He sells out
his body on defense to shut down a play or block a shot.
Offensively, the game reading ability leads to him recognizing when space
opens up underneath the defense and being able to attack that space,
increasing the potency of a scoring threat. Between his size and his balance,
he likes to play in front of the opposing goaltender, where he can be near
impossible to dislodge.
As much as his skill game has come on in the last few months, Beecher first
came to scouting prominence as a physical threat. He knows that his biggest
advantage over opponents has always been his physicality and he plays with
that always in the forefront of his mind. He is a bear against the boards, and
those who have tried to play heavy with him have quickly felt his wrath. The
USHL is not a fighting league but provoking him is not really a wise idea. He
sticks up for his teammates and for himself and I expect him to do so more
forcefully at the next level.
On a USNTDP team long on skill and short on size, especially up front, Beecher
was the policeman for much of the year. His inherent skills were held in check
as he provided bodily force, sometimes violent bodily force.
Certain aspects of his game were clearly better than the bottom six type role
he had assumed. Most noticeably, his skating. Not only was he a good skater for
a 6-3”, nearly 210-pound teenager, but his speed was better than many players
four inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter. When he has clear ice in front of him,
he eats it up.
As this season progressed, Beecher became more comfortable using his speed
to create scoring chances. As few players at this level could contain a player of
his size going that fast, he would be less hesitant in taking the puck right to the
goalmouth. The more he did that, the more he showed patience with the puck,
waiting for the goaltender to make a move first before skating around him or
flipping the puck over him. He also showed that his hands work very well in
tight, opening up more ways for him to help his team.
While there are some players of Beecher’s general size who are plus skaters,
many are limited to straight lines. In Beecher’s case, he can play with some
shake and bake as well. He has incredible puck protection abilities as well,
making it exceptionally difficult for opposing defenders to force turnovers from
him.
Like many of his teammates on the program, Beecher is a high IQ player. He is
advanced at reading the play and handles situations appropriately. He sells out
his body on defense to shut down a play or block a shot.
Offensively, the game reading ability leads to him recognizing when space
opens up underneath the defense and being able to attack that space,
increasing the potency of a scoring threat. Between his size and his balance,
he likes to play in front of the opposing goaltender, where he can be near
impossible to dislodge.
As much as his skill game has come on in the last few months, Beecher first
came to scouting prominence as a physical threat. He knows that his biggest
advantage over opponents has always been his physicality and he plays with
that always in the forefront of his mind. He is a bear against the boards, and
those who have tried to play heavy with him have quickly felt his wrath. The
USHL is not a fighting league but provoking him is not really a wise idea. He
sticks up for his teammates and for himself and I expect him to do so more
forcefully at the next level.
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Getting Byram or Turcotte would be a huge win. Getting Dach would be fine, but I think I prefer Zegras.
I like Beecher. Size and speed. Could be good 3rd line center one day. Lots to choose from at that spot. Most likely a first round faller. Grewe is intriguing too.
SFKingshomer
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Hoven said they won't draft Cozens or Caufield and he thinks its down to Turcotte, Byram, Dach, or Zegras.
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