Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall

[BigKing]

I'm going to be so salty if Byram is a stud for years on Chicago while we got f***ing bumped to #5.

They already bumped us for the first high pick of the last rebuild. Screw those guys.

 

[Mats26]

I agree, but it also depends on when the run for Dmen happens.. Buffalo could take a Dman as could 13-17

It won't matter because there will be 16 picks between our 5 and the 22 (6-21).
These are the higher ranked players. (Assuming Byram-Turcotte and Dach are gone)
Even if all the D-men go in a row they is no way Podz, Boldy or Newhook fall to 22.

8 Forwards
Cozens
Zegras
Caufield
Boldy
Kaliyev
Newhook
Krebs
Podz

6 D-Men
Soderstrom
Heinola
Broberg
Seider
York
Harley

That's just 14 listed above. Still 2 additional picks before our turn at 22. Anything can happen I guess but i won't hold my breath on it. I see maybe a lower ranked D from that list or Kaliyev falling to us.

 

[AzKing]

I'm going to be so salty if Byram is a stud for years on Chicago while we got ****ing bumped to #5.

They already bumped us for the first high pick of the last rebuild. Screw those guys.

It would be interesting because half of Chicago's Top 10 prospects are Dmen and they are pretty thin elsewhere. The Forwards on their list don't look like a lot of front line players. They really need to get better up front.

 

[KingsHockey24]

A Grundstrom/Vilardi/Caufield line would be sickk.

 

[AzKing]

https://www.tsn.ca/podkolzin-plummets-in-tsn-hockey-s-mock-draft-3-0-1.1296254

I'm not sure if ya'll seen this yet but Byram looks to be solidified at 3rd.

Dach at 4th.

They have us drafting Caufield and goalie Spencer Knight in the first round.

Podkolzin out of top 10 ranking.

That's Button's opinion and I just can't see the Kings taking a goalie with any of their top 3 picks. Whenever I see Knight in there going to us, I just scratch my head because goalie is one position where we actually have talent.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

He scored eight goals? Might make for a good sleeper pick in the later rounds. Only problem is that he may not come over since he's Russian...

 

[kings11]

A Grundstrom/Vilardi/Caufield line would be sickk.

As would a Byram-Doughty pairing... or
Brown - Kopitar - Turcotte/Dach... or
Prokhorkin - Turcotte/Dach - Vilardi

 

[Sleeping Dog]

He scored eight goals? Might make for a good sleeper pick in the later rounds. Only problem is that he may not come over since he's Russian...

Whoever put that carpet on the ice hasn’t been seen so quite awhile now. Doubtful they’ll find the body.

 

[Herby]

Just a little perspective here. Teams don’t win the cup once, let alone 2 in three years, by hanging on to all their draft picks.

But most of the stupid draft pick trades were after the cup wins. No one cares they traded 1sts for Carter or even for Penner, they contributed to good things. Milan Lucic and Andrej Sekera? Not so much.

 

[Mats26]

It would be interesting because half of Chicago's Top 10 prospects are Dmen and they are pretty thin elsewhere. The Forwards on their list don't look like a lot of front line players. They really need to get better up front. /QUOTE]


..and the Kings??? We need major help with offensive talent in the top 6. Let them take Byram, who cares, we need a top line C and scoring wingers ASAP. Our best prospects next year are Grunts, Wagner and Luff. Our best wingers are over 35 and we have yet to see how the russian kid plays on NA ice.

 

[BigKing]

He scored eight goals? Might make for a good sleeper pick in the later rounds. Only problem is that he may not come over since he's Russian...

That was a lot of fun.

 

[Herby]

I'm going to be so salty if Byram is a stud for years on Chicago while we got ****ing bumped to #5.

They already bumped us for the first high pick of the last rebuild. Screw those guys.

Dean very well may have taken Hickey at #3 anyways. I mean if he took him at 4 over guys like Voracek so it's possible they liked him more than Turris too.

But that was a hell of a year to win the lottery because Kane was just so much better than everyone else in that draft. Chicago did get screwed in 2004 though, a draft that featured two generational talents and the Hawks got bumped by Pittsburgh and had to settle for Cam Barker instead of Malkin, not sure any team has come out of a lottery worse than them that year.

 

[verbalkint47]

I don't see why height is important, this isn't the NBA. It's more about if Caufield has the frame to add muscle/mass without losing quickness. A sniper doesn't really need amazing top-end speed imo. Just have to be quick and dart in and out of pockets of space and have enough strength to absorb the physical contact that comes with attacking around the goal.

 

[kings11]

I don't see why height is important, this isn't the NBA. It's more about if Caufield has the frame to add muscle/mass without losing quickness. A sniper doesn't really need amazing top-end speed imo. Just have to be quick and dart in and out of pockets of space and have enough strength to absorb the physical contact that comes with attacking around the goal.

Me personally, I dont care about height from my winger.... however, what we need is a center that could/will help Kopitar inteh next 2 seasons and possibly replace him... Turcoote and Dach just deliver not only a better value at 5, they are also BPA... if Vilardi was 100%, i'd trade back with Buffalo for 7th and Nylander..

 

[verbalkint47]

Me personally, I dont care about height from my winger.... however, what we need is a center that could/will help Kopitar inteh next 2 seasons and possibly replace him... Turcoote and Dach just deliver not only a better value at 5, they are also BPA... if Vilardi was 100%, i'd trade back with Buffalo for 7th and Nylander..

I agree and prefer Dach at 5. I was just making a general observation.

 

[kings11]

I agree and prefer Dach at 5. I was just making a general observation.

Noted! I am actually excited to find out who we draft..

 

[Mats26]

2C is our biggest hole right now especially with Vilardi's health concerns and Carter's play. It's one of the reasons they brought in Prokhorkin, but i still see him more of a winger. Kupari is probably better suited at wing as well.

 

[kings11]

2C is our biggest hole right now especially with Vilardi's health concerns and Carter's play. It's one of the reasons they brought in Prokhorkin, but i still see him more of a winger. Kupari is probably better suited at wing as well.

Even if Vilardi was healthy, the plan was to let him play wing for a season to help him adapt to the NHL.. just one more reason to look at Turcotte and Dach a little closer

 

[KingsFan7824]

But most of the stupid draft pick trades were after the cup wins. No one cares they traded 1sts for Carter or even for Penner, they contributed to good things. Milan Lucic and Andrej Sekera? Not so much.

Sure, now. Were we liking Penner after the 10-11 season, when he had 2 goals in 19 games? Were we liking the 1st paid for him in 11-12, before we knew what was to come, when he scored 7 whole goals? The Kings were this close to Penner and Carter working out as well as Sekera and Lucic. All 4 of those trades were from the same risk mindset, a couple just worked better than the other couple. How close were the Kings from being a 1 hit wonder? Let alone a no-hit wonder when they were somewhere between 8th and 11th in the West when they got Carter?

Lombardi wasn't any different pre or post Cup. He was always a risk taker, with or without trades. Did it early on in the 2007 draft, before Doughty was even a glint in his eye. Took a risk on Johnson too. How close was Lombardi to having Johnson, Hickey, and Bogosian as his 3 building blocks on defense for a rebuild? Disturbingly. It's amazing the Kings won. There's a fine line between Cup glory and the deep, dark, and damp wilderness.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Speaking of Penner...


That goal and the OT winner in the 2012 Conference Finals were his biggest contributions to the team. For the most part, he was a disappointment, but at the time, a calculated risk due to the Kings still being a young enough team that could compete, with or without Penner.

But when you start trading high picks year after year and missing the playoffs while getting older and not restocking the pipeline... that’s setting yourself up for failure.

 

[kilowatt]

Speaking of Penner...


That goal and the OT winner in the 2012 Conference Finals were his biggest contributions to the team. For the most part, he was a disappointment, but at the time, a calculated risk due to the Kings still being a young enough team that could compete, with or without Penner.

But when you start trading high picks year after year and missing the playoffs while getting older and not restocking the pipeline... that’s setting yourself up for failure.

Man, I was at that game. That’s the loudest I’ve ever heard Staples. What a shot.

 

[LAKings88]

I’m leaning more towards Dach.

Still prefer Byram the most.

Just hoping for BPA homerun pick when all is said and done.

 

[Brodeur]

There's a fine line between Cup glory and the deep, dark, and damp wilderness.

For some reason that reminds me of Columbus and their scouts during the 2005 Draft. That was the weird year coming out of the lockout, so the draft was in a hotel ballroom rather than an arena. So all the scouts were huddled back in the hotels. Columbus did a behind the scenes show on their draft efforts and had a camera on the scouts as the draft was unfolding.

When Minnesota went off the board for Benoit Pouliot at #4, the Columbus scouts erupted in cheers. I think one of them blurts out something like "We got Brule or Kopitar!" And then Montreal unexpectedly took Carey Price at #5 and Columbus had their choice of centers. Imagine a world where Montreal took Brule like everybody (including myself) thought they should and Columbus got defaulted to Kopitar?

 

[KingsHockey24]

I’m leaning more towards Dach.

Still prefer Byram the most.

Just hoping for BPA homerun pick when all is said and done.

Dach, Byram, and Caufield all good picks.

 

[Bandit]

But most of the stupid draft pick trades were after the cup wins. No one cares they traded 1sts for Carter or even for Penner, they contributed to good things. Milan Lucic and Andrej Sekera? Not so much.

The Sekera and Lucic trades just as easily could have led to a third cup, just as the Penner and Carter trades could have led to 0 cups. It's a fine line between glory and obscurity. You never know until you go for it.