Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall

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AzKing

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It really appears that this is a 4 person draft on the elite level right now in Hughes, Kakko, Turcotte and Byram. I suppose you can add in Caufield but he is not a complete player like Turcotte and Hughes. Kakko is so much on another level in scoring that I doubt anyone cares if he doesn't play a great two-way game. Then you have Byram who is looking like a perfect #2 to a team that has a #1 and he could probably achieve that status in time if he keeps progressing.

The Kings at #5 could be right on the outside of these 4 which would means that they could throw caution to the wind and go with Caufield or go with the more complete package in Cozens. I don't see any other players that they will consider at #5 than the ones mentioned here.

Pronman: Alex Turcotte is a No. 1 center without any clear...

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Turcotte is one of the most simple player evaluations you’ll see. He’s a center without any clear flaws who does everything you want at a high-end level and has had massive production. If he had stayed healthy all season, I’m confident he’d have monster numbers and been considered one of the most productive NTDP players ever.

Turcotte’s value to an NHL team will be his versatility. He could be the best play-driver on a line due to his speed and skill. He could run your power play off the flank, or be a net-front nuisance if your team demands it. Despite his great hands and vision that may be suited for a half-wall player, Turcotte told me he finds his game is best suited for the net-front and below the goal line.

He projects as an 18-20 minutes a night No. 1 center who will be a fan favorite due to how hard he plays and how much he produces.
 
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It really appears that this is a 4 person draft on the elite level right now in Hughes, Kakko, Turcotte and Byram. I suppose you can add in Caufield but he is not a complete player like Turcotte and Hughes. Kakko is so much on another level in scoring that I doubt anyone cares if he doesn't play a great two-way game. Then you have Byram who is looking like a perfect #2 to a team that has a #1 and he could probably achieve that status in time if he keeps progressing.

The Kings at #5 could be right on the outside of these 4 which would means that they could throw caution to the wind and go with Caufield or go with the more complete package in Cozens. I don't see any other players that they will consider at #5 than the ones mentioned here.

Pronman: Alex Turcotte is a No. 1 center without any clear...

To sum it up:

Turcotte is one of the most simple player evaluations you’ll see. He’s a center without any clear flaws who does everything you want at a high-end level and has had massive production. If he had stayed healthy all season, I’m confident he’d have monster numbers and been considered one of the most productive NTDP players ever.

Turcotte’s value to an NHL team will be his versatility. He could be the best play-driver on a line due to his speed and skill. He could run your power play off the flank, or be a net-front nuisance if your team demands it. Despite his great hands and vision that may be suited for a half-wall player, Turcotte told me he finds his game is best suited for the net-front and below the goal line.

He projects as an 18-20 minutes a night No. 1 center who will be a fan favorite due to how hard he plays and how much he produces.

if all 4 are gone do you entertain the idea of trading back 1-3 spots to add another piece?
 

AzKing

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if all 4 are gone do you entertain the idea of trading back 1-3 spots to add another piece?

I would do that if the package were there. If they could get a 2nd, then I think it's a no-brainer as long as they stay in the Caufield, Cozens, Dach, Zegras range. I don't think that they will get more than a 3rd unless a team really wanted someone there. You never know though once draft day comes around. Teams will do crazy things.

I would try to do this although these things are complex and they would need to come around quickly. If Bryam and Turcotte are gone, I could stay and take Cozens or drop as far as 3 spots and pick up a 2nd or 3rd and then try to move the #22 and that pick to get into the top 10-15. I would need to know who the team is going to draft that we are trading for. They usually will tell the team that they won't screw them and take a guy they want.

My picks would probably then be Caufield, Cozens, Dach or Zegras. If I can get into the 10-15 range, I would then go with Broberg, Krebs, Kaliyev or Boldy.
 

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"“When you put a puck between Turcotte and another guy, he’s going to carve that guy’s heart out to win that puck. That’s a skill,” said USNTDP U17 coach Seth Appert"

Sigh, we have the toughest pick in the draft. What a f***ed up lottery.
 
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AnThGrt

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You would pass on Turcotte? Ok....
Why is that so absurd? I was the first to heavily push Turcotte on this forum at the start of the season and throughout when everyone else for months was pushing Cozens and others. A good half of the scout rankings still have Turcotte in the 6-9 range. Not that absurd by any means to see him drop and with valid reason pending the judge. Dach/Zegras both possess higher ceiling, especially the former. Honestly as long as we don't draft Cozens and simply because of potential upside I'm happy. I would prefer Turcotte/Byram yet getting a Dach/Zegras would be huge for our team. Also decent chance if one of those two we walk with the best player in the draft down the line. Heck... I'd accept Cozens it just would be the vanilla and boring pick.
 
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If Vilardi was 100% healthy would you still pass or how much has Vilardi scared you and likely others?
If Vilardi was healthy? I had no problem when we drafted him.

If he had zero injury problems back then I'd just be even happier he fell to us.

We really don't need another Vilardi situation with Turcotte.
 

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"“When you put a puck between Turcotte and another guy, he’s going to carve that guy’s heart out to win that puck. That’s a skill,” said USNTDP U17 coach Seth Appert"

Sigh, we have the toughest pick in the draft. What a ****ed up lottery.

The more I think about, the more I want to move back a handful of spots. If someone wants to come up for Dach, Cozens or whoever, i'll gladly take the extra pick.
 

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Even though we got fully screwed by the stupid NHL at the lottery, I think we should just take the 5th pick and run. There are only a few guys (maybe 6) in the next group. IMO Cozens is probably the best of the rest and he's likely gone next pick. I can't see us gaining a way to get 2 of that pack of 6 by moving down so I'd just stick with our pick and just hope our guy becomes a star. We can't pass on the quality of that group to gain quantity of picks.
 

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Even though we got fully screwed by the stupid NHL at the lottery, I think we should just take the 5th pick and run. There are only a few guys (maybe 6) in the next group. IMO Cozens is probably the best of the rest and he's likely gone next pick. I can't see us gaining a way to get 2 of that pack of 6 by moving down so I'd just stick with our pick and just hope our guy becomes a star. We can't pass on the quality of that group to gain quantity of picks.

Yeah, it stinks, but it would be worse outsmarting yourself, too.
 
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RocketKing

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EXACTLY.

There is still too much to like in that next group to focus on not being in the top 4. We CANT screw this one up. In fact I think Blake might keep trying to make a deal with the Av's all the way up to their pick.
 

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We are making to much of this 5th pick. We are getting a good player unless we go off the board and do something stupid. You need to evaluate the draft as a whole. The 7 picks in the first 4 rounds should be enough to potentially add some NHL assets\prospects going forward. We should judge on how the rebuilding process (and this draft) is going considering all those picks instead of whether we get a Turcotte or Dach.

Just for reference the Bruins have only 2 first round picks that they drafted as forwards in their current lineup.(DeBrusk\Pastrnak) . Neither were top 10. They draft well in later rounds. Kings need to do the same if we want to get back in the mix. We can't just be hoping for a McJesus in every draft, when we know we need so much more.
 

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Oh No, i see a lot of Debbie Downers.

Suddenly there is a top 4 and LA is picking 5th. What a surprise to read again...

I prefer a good defenseman over a good forward. Byram that is but him, Turcotte or Cozens are interchangeable. I would even include Krebs into that group.
 

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I am really warming up to the idea of the Devils going with Kakko 1st overall. Would not surprise me at all.

Still sounds like it's still Hughes for us. I'm sure the Devils will bring Kakko in for an additional interview and workout before the draft. On the bright side for Kakko, he could visit the Devils and Rangers on the same trip. Him skipping the combine makes sense since he's going top 2 and doesn't really have much incentive to fly to Buffalo, do the combine workouts, and interview with a bunch of teams.
 
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