Doctor Soraluce
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They aren't getting Meier in a package. I just don't see it. Meier has the problem of being worth more to the Sharks than in trade. Sharks would view meier + braun and a couple picks as the most they would want to part with. I get that to the league Meier isn't worth as much as Marner but to the Sharks and their roster construction he's almost priceless. Also the Sharks aren't giving up a 1st line winger and a 1st pair defenseman for a guy who at that point the leafs can't afford and won't resign. The leafs will need multiple pieces back that fit under the cap and make them better. And they NEED D-men. 2 roster players that can contribute and prospects and picks. In the end I think it's Nylander that draws the short straw and honestly he probably needs the change of scenery more than anyone. Leafs will likely need to entice a team to take on his $7mil per. This is the type of deal DW could take advantage of. But this will mean the leafs are f***ed from here on out with their salary distribution... Matthews, Marner & Tavares all sucking down more than $30mil. That's a team with first round exit written all over it for the next decade.I'm not sure the EK65 trade is a good barometer...Dorion had no leverage and is overall a much worse GM than Chevy. I guess you could say since Trouba wants out, Chevy has less leverage, but Trouba is also an RFA, so that's not a huge drop in leverage. And in the deal of Vlasic + Merkley + something else for Marner, I don't see how the something else is anything short of Hertl or Meier lol. Marner is already a top line winger, so I doubt SJ could get him for anything other than Meier + Labanc + Merkley.
EDIT: I thought Marner played Center...? Could have sworn I saw him playing center... If he's a winger there's no way he's worth those assets for the Sharks. He's great and all but in another year or 2 it may be a toss up if he's worth more than Meier when you look at how valuable they are in the playoffs. I'm always partial to the power forwards though so I admit my preference skews my perception.
Exactly. Thru out history these types of players have rarely brought the return that it "seemed" they should have. One of the rare ones that did? Lindros. Whoever made that Deal for Quebec knew exactly what they were doing and was probably glad Lindros wanted out.No one is giving Toronto that package regardless of what someone seems his value to be. How does giving up Vlasic and Meier/Hertl make the Sharks better? Good GMs aren’t in the business of actively making their team significantly worse just to get 1 good player. Marner is good, but he’s not good enough to part with a bonafide top pairing D-Man, top prospect, and another young first line player that’s already a 30+ goal scorer. That’s absolutely asinine.
This isn’t NHL19. Trades have to be mutually beneficial and gutting your NHL roster and prospect pool for one player doesn’t happen. You’re never going to get full perceived value when you’re trading an elite player because no other team is going to cave to that asking price. You can set the market at whatever you want, but when teams know you can’t afford said player, you become a price taker and the rest of the league sets the market (see EK65 last year where Dallas refused to include Heiskanen) and says this is the final offer from all of us so deal with it and pick your poison.
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