2019/20 Roster Thread XXXVIII

[Curufinwe]

On 31 Thoughts they linked Boro with Florida cause Q wants to get tougher.

 

[deadhead]

Something to think about:

4. Fletcher says the lack of liquidity in the system under a flattened salary cap for potentially three years could be tough for free agents but might be good news for fans who like trades.
“It’s going to force teams to be more creative,” Fletcher says.
“You might see more hockey trades, the dollar-for-dollar trades where teams need to improve or need to upgrade in certain areas. If you don’t have the ability to go into the UFA market, you have to be creative and find solutions with other teams. So, it’s going to be very interesting.”

Quick Shifts: Why a Maple Leafs run at Pietrangelo isn't so crazy - Sportsnet.ca

 

[deadhead]

Here's one guy to consider, Brandon Montour, RHD, in the last year of his RFA, with a $3.525MM QO.
Say Laughton for Montour would provide a bridge to York and Zamula.

 

[Stizzle]

@Striiker

 

[Starat327]

@Striiker

you WILL like Scott Laughton, Stizz.

 

[Tripod]

Here's one guy to consider, Brandon Montour, RHD, in the last year of his RFA, with a $3.525MM QO.
Say Laughton for Montour would provide a bridge to York and Zamula.

Why not just let the soon to be 25 year old Friedman play and see what he can do thru the season?

 

[deadhead]

Why not just let the soon to be 25 year old Friedman play and see what he can do thru the season?

Because he's the soon to be 25 year old, me wonder if they really see him as a starter or at best a #7 depth guy.

 

[Tripod]

Because he's the soon to be 25 year old, me wonder if they really see him as a starter or at best a #7 depth guy.

Well given that as of now, we have 7 Dmen, that's not an issue.

Maybe you should give him more games to prove himself. After all, we did it with trash like Stewy.

And maybe, just maybe, you might get a "NAK surprise" from him.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Because he's the soon to be 25 year old, me wonder if they really see him as a starter or at best a #7 depth guy.

Me wonder if they are not blind in addition to being f***ing stupid.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Well given that as of now, we have 7 Dmen, that's not an issue.

Maybe you should give him more games to prove himself. After all, we did it with trash like Stewy.

And maybe, just maybe, you might get a "NAK surprise" from him.

... and trash like Hogg.

 

[Jtown]

Why not just let the soon to be 25 year old Friedman play and see what he can do thru the season?

i have really liked what I have seen from Friedman. There is no excuse for him not to be in the top 6.

 

[Starat327]

Why not just let the soon to be 25 year old Friedman play and see what he can do thru the season?

Frost is too young and Friedman is too old, is that what I'm seeing?

Can someone tell me the magic age, down to the minute, that it's ok to play kids now?

 

[Jtown]

Frost is too young and Friedman is too old, is that what I'm seeing?

Can someone tell me the magic age, down to the minute, that it's ok to play kids now?

the minute you're over 13, you should stop playing with kids.

 

[Flukeshot]

The swap would have to be trade Ghost for pick and sign free agent d-man. And there are some fa's that scare me if they came to Philly. see Ceci.

My thought was trade Ghost for a guy like DeHaan I.e. similar cap hit but more physical and shutdown D.

I'm not saying that's a match but looking at that type of trade. That while trading Hagg.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

the minute you're over 13, you should stop playing with kids.

HEY-OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

[deadhead]

Problem with Friedman is whether he's really NHL caliber.
He has a solid 3rd season with the Phantoms, but guess who had similar metrics? Wotherspoon.
Wotherspoon was #57 pick, has 30 games NHL experience. He's a couple years older than Friedman but a lot bigger.

Friedman played 6 NHL games, xGF 34.98% - obviously too small a sample to draw conclusions, but the eyeballs say he skates well but did little otherwise to impress.

They may see them both more as organizational depth than potential starters.
It's up to Friedman to change that script in TC.

 

[Magua]

Let’s see who Friedman played with in his 80 minutes this season......73 minutes with really NHL caliber Hagg. Boy, doesn’t that check out.

In Vigneault’s system that puts defensemen under immense forecheck pressure, Friedman’s ability to skate pucks out of danger and make a simple pass would go a long way, I reckon. He’s tenacious defensively and is not a zero offensively. Maybe the team can do the thing where they make a real evaluation and not use a hand-me-down one when it comes to which depth players to play.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Because he's the soon to be 25 year old, me wonder if they really see him as a starter or at best a #7 depth guy.

Friedman as 6 I can live with. Friedman as 6 AND Hagg as 5 I will need lots and lots of aspirin.

 

[DancingPanther]

Let’s see who Friedman played with in his 80 minutes this season......73 minutes with really NHL caliber Hagg. Boy, doesn’t that check out.

In Vigneault’s system that puts defensemen under immense forecheck pressure, Friedman’s ability to skate pucks out of danger and make a simple pass would go a long way, I reckon. He’s tenacious defensively and is not a zero offensively. Maybe the team can do the thing where they make a real evaluation and not use a hand-me-down one when it comes to which depth players to play.

How many B O D I E S does he B A N G

 

[Beef Invictus]

Let’s see who Friedman played with in his 80 minutes this season......73 minutes with really NHL caliber Hagg. Boy, doesn’t that check out.

In Vigneault’s system that puts defensemen under immense forecheck pressure, Friedman’s ability to skate pucks out of danger and make a simple pass would go a long way, I reckon. He’s tenacious defensively and is not a zero offensively. Maybe the team can do the thing where they make a real evaluation and not use a hand-me-down one when it comes to which depth players to play.

Nah they'll let him go to waste. Flyers hockey!

 

[Magua]

How many B O D I E S does he B A N G

Nah they'll let him go to waste. Flyers hockey!

What did we learn from NAK?

Nothing. We learned nothing.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Let’s see who Friedman played with in his 80 minutes this season......73 minutes with really NHL caliber Hagg. Boy, doesn’t that check out.

In Vigneault’s system that puts defensemen under immense forecheck pressure, Friedman’s ability to skate pucks out of danger and make a simple pass would go a long way, I reckon. He’s tenacious defensively and is not a zero offensively. Maybe the team can do the thing where they make a real evaluation and not use a hand-me-down one when it comes to which depth players to play.

The problem is the NHL & some of the fans in turn still don’t see the bottom of their roster as plug & play roles. Obviously they also still are very much into rigid belief into what players should & shouldn’t be in those spots based off play style regardless of effectiveness which over complicates the issue.

We’re still giving spots to guys in these roles because they have experience, try hard, or are good guys despite not being effective even in a minimal role.

In regards to the Flyers they’ve drafted so much over the years & have a lot of minor league prospect depth that most teams would love to have but we still have people deathly scared to give these guys a shot. You have enough numbers there that something should stick. The sad part is possibly management agrees given the Stewart, Thompson, Grant, etc. debacles.

 

[Striiker]

They probably don't want to give Friedman a shot because they think he's just another Ghost.

Now obviously they're nothing alike, outside of their height, but we're talking about a staff that has admitted to not doing research and obviously has absolutely zero eye for player evaluation.

 

[deadhead]

They probably don't want to give Friedman a shot b/c he's meh, he might be a decent 3rd pair guy who's primarily defense first, but you'd have to pair him with the right LHD. He's done nothing to suggest he's more than a JAG.

The forwards all got shots last season, remember, 6 rookie forwards played more minutes than Stewart and Andreoff, so much for relying on veterans. Unless you think Raffl and Pitlick should have been benched for Twarynski and Kase?

The young forwards will get another chance to win jobs this winter, but if your 4th line is Raffl - Laughton (26) - Sandin (24), are they being blocked or is the team that deep? There's basically one job open, 3C, and that will probably come down to Patrick v Frost.

On defense, if they don't re-sign Braun, they're not trading Ghost unless they get a veteran D-man from somewhere, AV isn't going into the season with Hagg - Friedman and hoping Zamula or Hogberg are suddenly ready to start if needed.

 

[Beef Invictus]

They probably don't want to give Friedman a shot b/c he's meh, he might be a decent 3rd pair guy who's primarily defense first, but you'd have to pair him with the right LHD. He's done nothing to suggest he's more than a JAG.

The forwards all got shots last season, remember, 6 rookie forwards played more minutes than Stewart and Andreoff, so much for relying on veterans. Unless you think Raffl and Pitlick should have been benched for Twarynski and Kase?

The young forwards will get another chance to win jobs this winter, but if your 4th line is Raffl - Laughton (26) - Sandin (24), are they being blocked or is the team that deep? There's basically one job open, 3C, and that will probably come down to Patrick v Frost.

On defense, if they don't re-sign Braun, they're not trading Ghost unless they get a veteran D-man from somewhere, AV isn't going into the season with Hagg - Friedman and hoping Zamula or Hogberg are suddenly ready to start if needed.

"JAG" is an upgrade over Hogg, so yes he should absolutely play and there's no reason to defend not playing him.