GDT: 2019-20 GM#56 LA Kings vs New Jersey Devils @4:00pm 2/8/20

[crassbonanza]

the Ducks are in much better shape contract wise than the Kings are.

Why does that matter? When are the Kings going to need cap? It's a f***ing rebuild.

 

[crassbonanza]

The premise in my original post was simple...management needs to set goals and accountability for the team. If you disagree with that premise, I'm happy to discuss.

How do you know that they haven't? How do you know what has been discussed behind closed doors?

 

[BigKing]

Man it's hot in here. Was this the game that finally broke everyone?

This is the worst Kings product ever iced. The fact that there are Kings legends and heroes out there makes it worse.

Seriously: this is the worst it's ever been. Ask yourself why you watch and try to give an answer that doesn't make you seem pathetic.

 

[crassbonanza]

Man it's hot in here. Was this the game that finally broke everyone?

This is the worst Kings product ever iced. The fact that there are Kings legends and heroes out there makes it worse.

Seriously: this is the worst it's ever been. Ask yourself why you watch and try to give an answer that doesn't make you seem pathetic.

I watch because I love hockey, the Kings are my favorite team so I watch them the most. It's pretty easy to give an answer that doesn't seem pathetic. That game sucked and a lot have this season, but there have been fun parts as well.

Sometimes your team is going to suck, especially in the cap era of forced parity. Think about Sabres fans, the last time they went to the playoffs the Kings had yet to win a cup. Those fans still tune in.

 

[BigKing]

I watch because I love hockey, the Kings are my favorite team so I watch them the most. It's pretty easy to give an answer that doesn't seem pathetic. That game sucked and a lot have this season, but there have been fun parts as well.

Sometimes your team is going to suck, especially in the cap era of forced parity. Think about Sabres fans, the last time they went to the playoffs the Kings had yet to win a cup. Those fans still tune in.

It's so bad though. I watch too. Just not as much. It's pathetic and I know it. I also pay for season seats so I'm pathetic and a f***ing idiot.

They seriously don't deserve us. It's the biggest lack of effort I've ever seen.

 

[KINGS17]

Man it's hot in here. Was this the game that finally broke everyone?

This is the worst Kings product ever iced. The fact that there are Kings legends and heroes out there makes it worse.

Seriously: this is the worst it's ever been. Ask yourself why you watch and try to give an answer that doesn't make you seem pathetic.

The truth is I don't watch it much anymore. I would rather watch college basketball than the NHL right now.

When the Kings management team puts a team back on the ice that shows they have a vision and are committed to executing a plan that leads to contending for a Stanley Cup, I will get excited again. I am not going to waste my time (3 hours round trip to Staples Center, or 3 hours watching it on TV) and money on the product they are currently icing.

 

[KINGS17]

Brown looks like he is ready to retire, at this point what does Brown have left to prove?

Brown has nothing to prove unless he is driven or feels it would be fun to help another team win a Stanley Cup. If he isn't driven to win another cup, I am sure he would rather just play out his contract, make sure he doesn't get seriously injured, and retire on the beach.

 

[Statto]

The players haven't tuned out the coach...they've tuned out management (Blake and Luc). Management has basically told them that this is an open-ended rebuild with no timetable to be competitive again. The players know they'll never play an important game as an LA King for the remainder of their careers here. As such, the players have been relieved of all accountability for their performance. Their money is guaranteed and they hold all the cards when it comes to being dealt. The players also know that management has no intention of trying to improve the team in the next 2-3 seasons at least. Banking on draft picks does nothing to help the current locked up core. They could care less since these draft picks are years away from playing at the NHL level.

This is as bad a situation as I've seen an NHL team in for quite some time and it will be interesting to see when AEG says "enough". The best thing management could do right now is to tell the players and the fans that they fully expect to be a playoff team in 21-22 and will make whatever moves are necessary to ensure that goal. There needs to be goals and accountability in this organization again. Right now there are zero of each and it shows. 2nd and 3rd round draft picks may excite a few fans on a website but they do nothing for the ownership, fans, and sponsors who are shelling out ridiculous money for the current (and future) product on the ice.

I always like very subjective opinion being presented as fact, especially when you don’t understand how a rebuild works.

 

[Steve Zissou]

I actually think TMac should bench Brown tomorrow against The Rags.

These players, especially the vets who have won, are still a prideful bunch.

Bench one of them (who deserve it) and inject Pro or whomever is willing to give 100%.

 

[Matt13]

Seriously: this is the worst it's ever been. Ask yourself why you watch and try to give an answer that doesn't make you seem pathetic.

I live in the City of Orange. We literally live 5 minutes from Honda Center. On a quiet night with the windows open I can sometimes hear there goal horn, which is real annoying annoying on the tv delay when they play the Kings.

I used to be a King’s Season Tix holder and as we are battling the 5 to get Staples on time my wife says “Why don’t you just become a Ducks fan”.

I looked at her, pointed at my Kings hat and said “because I already have the hat”.

So, to answer your question, I still follow the Kings because of the hat. I don’t post much anymore because it’s stupid to fight about who’s theory on the Kings is more or less correct but I still check in to read to get updates on Allison and Deader and when they may be coming back.

 

[onlyalad]

Man it's hot in here. Was this the game that finally broke everyone?

This is the worst Kings product ever iced. The fact that there are Kings legends and heroes out there makes it worse.

Seriously: this is the worst it's ever been. Ask yourself why you watch and try to give an answer that doesn't make you seem pathetic.

Not even close to the worse I’ve seen. I became a fan in 1970 , the 38 point season. I remember 74 season when the owner hired a stripper to strip on the ice during an intermission. Mostly because my parents were Bruins fans and my dad’s work had season tickets no one else wanted. Had to cheer on the team against my parents. When the wife worked for Disney 92-94, and her dad worked for the Arrowhead pond, with tickets to almost every game. I could have swapped then, but the roots are too deep.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

You are talking about beyond this year, but the lack of roster flexibility has been a problem for at least three seasons.

Why does it have to be a choice between playing 20-year olds and Kopitar and Doughty, or what they are doing now? The bottom line is the Kings should have moved on from both of these guys, because by the time the rebuild is complete it is likely neither of these two will be putting the Kings over the top.

They were in a tighter cap spot before, but what moves were they prevented from making? There was no one pushing people out.

I'm with you at this point that I'd be totally fine with Blake doing the DL thing and just bridging vets. I'd roll Michal Handzus as our 1C for the next 3 years if it were possible.

The lack of f***s given is what's pissing me off at this point. But people are inventing additional reasons to be mad, which is unnecessary. There's no cap/contract issue preventing us from doing anything.

Man it's hot in here. Was this the game that finally broke everyone?

This is the worst Kings product ever iced. The fact that there are Kings legends and heroes out there makes it worse.

Seriously: this is the worst it's ever been. Ask yourself why you watch and try to give an answer that doesn't make you seem pathetic.

I'm with you at this point. I'm watching these guys soil themselves and their legacies at once. While watching hungry youth like Lizotte work their asses off for nothing.

For a while I thought it would be great for the young d-men to learn from a legend like Doughty but not while he's out there acting like this. Give me someone hungry to save their career over a dude riding his legacy until the team is good again.

Not even close to the worse I’ve seen. I became a fan in 1970 , the 38 point season. I remember 74 season when the owner hired a stripper to strip on the ice during an intermission. Mostly because my parents were Bruins fans and my dad’s work had season tickets no one else wanted. Had to cheer on the team against my parents. When the wife worked for Disney 92-94, and her dad worked for the Arrowhead pond, with tickets to almost every game. I could have swapped then, but the roots are too deep.

Jeremy Roenick wasn't THAT long ago!

 

[BigKing]

Yeah. We're all still here because we're all huge fans but, seriously, deciding to watch this trash over doing anything else is kind of problematic at this point. It feels reflexive because that's what we've done for so many years: watch every Kings game. This team makes me question "why?" when there used to be no questions.

 

[The Tikkanen]

I live in the City of Orange. We literally live 5 minutes from Honda Center. On a quiet night with the windows open I can sometimes hear there goal horn, which is real annoying annoying on the tv delay when they play the Kings.

I used to be a King’s Season Tix holder and as we are battling the 5 to get Staples on time my wife says “Why don’t you just become a Ducks fan”.

I looked at her, pointed at my Kings hat and said “because I already have the hat”.

So, to answer your question, I still follow the Kings because of the hat. I don’t post much anymore because it’s stupid to fight about who’s theory on the Kings is more or less correct but I still check in to read to get updates on Allison and Deader and when they may be coming back.

I check in to see when the next pickup game is.

 

[Bandit]

Man it's hot in here. Was this the game that finally broke everyone?

This is the worst Kings product ever iced. The fact that there are Kings legends and heroes out there makes it worse.

Seriously: this is the worst it's ever been. Ask yourself why you watch and try to give an answer that doesn't make you seem pathetic.

I dunno man, there was a time that Brad Chartrand was a top line winger. Pretty sure that was worse, but I guess it’s like arguing about preferring a punch in the dick instead of a kick. Neither is good.

 

[Bandit]

Yeah. We're all still here because we're all huge fans but, seriously, deciding to watch this trash over doing anything else is kind of problematic at this point. It feels reflexive because that's what we've done for so many years: watch every Kings game. This team makes me question "why?" when there used to be no questions.

I feel like getting older and realizing that time is the most valuable commodity we have might have something to do for it at least for me. I used to watch without question too but now yeah, do I really have nothing better to do than watch these bozos fail for three hours at a time?

 

[Matt13]

I dunno man, there was a time that Brad Chartrand was a top line winger. Pretty sure that was worse, but I guess it’s like arguing about preferring a punch in the dick instead of a kick. Neither is good.

Other than the cup years when you look back and recall how much you loved the Lappy-Belanger-Chartrand line, you really have to question why you love this team.

must be the hat!

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I mean, even the dark ages Kings were somewhat endearing because they weren't good enough, but they had a pulse. There was always a chance of Deadmarsh or someone snapping off and killing someone for being a dick. This current team, especially sans Clifford, would watch Kopitar get hacked into pieces and just weakly shove whoever was nearby. These guys suck and whimper off.

 

[onlyalad]

Jeremy Roenick wasn't THAT long ago!

I was young then (10) but I remember in was against the Pens. I thought is funny. My parents even laughed. I brought binoculars to the next few games to”see the players” better.