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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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ChesterNimitz said:
This talk about the weakness of Hughes' shot is somewhat nonsensical. That's what god created Shea Weber and his $100 million dollar contract for. What Montreal desperately needs is an elite puck transporter who can consistently gain the offensive zone and allow the power play to be set up. Who does the team have now? Petry? Drouin? That's what Hughes would gives us immediately: a dynamic skater who will open up the ice for everyone. A player who will generally be the fastest player on the ice. A game changer, a player who can make a difference. That's what this team needs to win. That's what you try to acquire with the third overall draft choice. Does Hughes come with risks? of course. He's small and one of the oldest players in the draft. However all players have warts. But Hughes ' upside is immense and after almost thirty years of mediocrity, it's time for the team to swing for the fences. Because what they have been doing lately, is clearly not working.
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Is Hughes the BPA at 3? Stop drafting for needs. This team won win next year and the player you draft should be for his long term projection and impact in the league. We wouldn’t have this debate if we still had PK or even Sergachev. Now we seem desperate to fill those void. Hughes is talented but he’s not BPA at 3. As far as I’m concerned, even Dobson can bring the puck into the offensive zone just as much as Quinn.

I really wonder where each team ranks Hughes. It’s probably really different.
 
Hughes won't be our pick. I'm good with any one of: Zadina, Dobson, Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi. As long as one of those is a Hab, I'll be happy.

I like Hughes & Tkachuk. I just like the other 4 better. I expect we take Zadina, but Timmins/Bergevin never give hints.

I'd hoped they'd take Sergachev and Scherbak when they were available & they did. Ditto Galchenyuk, but it was a guessing game right up until they said their names.
 
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Is Hughes the BPA at 3? Stop drafting for needs. This team won win next year and the player you draft should be for his long term projection and impact in the league. We wouldn’t have this debate if we still had PK or even Sergachev. Now we seem desperate to fill those void. Hughes is talented but he’s not BPA at 3. As far as I’m concerned, even Dobson can bring the puck into the offensive zone just as much as Quinn.

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I think you are greatly underestimating Hughes' skating ability. If Hughes had Dobson's size, we wouldn't be having this conversation as he would be the clear number #1 pick. Conversely, if Dobson had Hughes' size, its unlikely Dobson would more than a 5th or 6th round selection. Any doubts that I had about Hughes were completely erased watching him perform at the recent WHC. Here was an 18 year old player who was playing effectively for one of the stronger teams against older, and in many circumstances, NHL level players. How many other draft eligible players can say the same thing? He's already a dynamic skater, just imagine him in two years when he adds 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. We have a chance to draft a player of game changing ability and skill. If you don't believe he possesses this level of talent, then this argument and consideration is moot. If in fact you believe he does has this level of talent, but his small stature will prevent his excelling in the NHL, then you are ignoring Hughes' ability and track record in competing effectively for the U.S. national development teams and at the WJC and the WHC. Taking Hughes would be a gamble (as with most players) but a gamble with huge upside potential for the team. We were lucky in the draft lottery to secure the third overall pick. We may never draft this high again in the foreseeable future. Let's use this pick to secure a potential trans-formative player. This is the time to be bold.

 
Reading this thread, I find it funny that Hughes is getting blasted for not having a good shot (it really isn't that bad) yet when a player is a bad skater, very often people claim that can be improved.

Honest question, do people truly believe it's easier to improve skating than a shot?

If so, you couldn't be more wrong.
 
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Favster said:
Reading this thread, I find it funny that Hughes is getting blasted for not having a good shot (it really isn't that bad) yet when a player is a bad skater, very often people claim that can be improved.

Honest question, do people truly believe it's easier to improve skating than a shot?

If so, you couldn't be more wrong.
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Whos the last player to improve his shot in the last century... Ill wait.
 
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Favster said:
Reading this thread, I find it funny that Hughes is getting blasted for not having a good shot (it really isn't that bad) yet when a player is a bad skater, very often people claim that can be improved.

Honest question, do people truly believe it's easier to improve skating than a shot?

If so, you couldn't be more wrong.
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I truly believe Kotkaniemis skating will get better, but it is funny how people say this.
 
Mrb1p said:
Whos the last player to improve his shot in the last century... Ill wait.
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Max Pacioretty is a good example. He was not drafted as a sniper and turned into one of the best snipers in the league. How did that happen? He worked on his shot.

When Alex Galchenyuk scored 30, his one timer from the right side on the PP was lethal. How did that happen? Reps in practice. Another example is Stamkos. Remember his one timer from the left side when he scored 60?

You think they didn't work on their shot? They were already good shooters but practice brought them to the next level.

I'm not saying it happens MORE often than a player who improves skating. All I'm saying is if someone says "he needs to work on his skating", the same can be said about shooting ability. And IMO, shooting ability is much easier to improve through practice and access to better technology/sports science in the pros.
 
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Max Pacioretty is a good example. He was not drafted as a sniper and turned into one of the best snipers in the league. How did that happen? He worked on his shot.

When Alex Galchenyuk scored 30, his one timer from the right side on the PP was lethal. How did that happen? Reps in practice. Another example is Stamkos. Remember his one timer from the left side when he scored 60?

You think they didn't work on their shot? They were already good shooters but practice brought them to the next level.

I'm not saying it happens MORE often than a player who improves skating. All I'm saying is if someone says "he needs to work on his skating", the same can be said about shooting ability. And IMO, shooting ability is much easier to improve through practice and access to better technology/sports science in the pros.
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100% agreed. I also think Kotkaniemis skating is more questionable than Hughes shooting.
 
Favster said:
Max Pacioretty is a good example. He was not drafted as a sniper and turned into one of the best snipers in the league. How did that happen? He worked on his shot.

When Alex Galchenyuk scored 30, his one timer from the right side on the PP was lethal. How did that happen? Reps in practice. Another example is Stamkos. Remember his one timer from the left side when he scored 60?

You think they didn't work on their shot? They were already good shooters but practice brought them to the next level.

I'm not saying it happens MORE often than a player who improves skating. All I'm saying is if someone says "he needs to work on his skating", the same can be said about shooting ability. And IMO, shooting ability is much easier to improve through practice and access to better technology/sports science in the pros.
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Stamkos was always a generational shooter, he scored at a GPG pace in juniors.
One of Galchenyuks redeeming qualities in his draft year was his heavy shot, he literally was a great shooter in juniors.
Pacioretty always had a pretty good shot too, and his slapper is terrible, and so is his snap shot.


Hughes, has a bad shot.
 
Favster said:
Reading this thread, I find it funny that Hughes is getting blasted for not having a good shot (it really isn't that bad) yet when a player is a bad skater, very often people claim that can be improved.

Honest question, do people truly believe it's easier to improve skating than a shot?

If so, you couldn't be more wrong.
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Actually I've seen more players become competent skaters rather than players with bad shots ever get better shots.
 
Mrb1p said:
Stamkos was always a generational shooter, he scored at a GPG pace in juniors.
One of Galchenyuks redeeming qualities in his draft year was his heavy shot, he literally was a great shooter in juniors.
Pacioretty always had a pretty good shot too, and his slapper is terrible, and so is his snap shot.


Hughes, has a bad shot.
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Your question was "Whos the last player to improve his shot in the last century... Ill wait." Regardless how good their shots were in Juniors, they improved it in the pros. Hughes will not be a goal scoring defenceman. Everyone knows that, he's an elite puck moving defenceman who can quarterback a PP right now in the NHL. You can focus on his weaknesses all you want. The reality is, every single prospect in this draft, outside of Dahlin has a weakness. I just prefer to focus on strengths and I truly think he's going to be a force in the NHL.
 
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