Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft

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I agree that they do need high end talent...

However, good luck trading a winger for an equal quality center or defenseman. Doesn't really happen. There should be plenty of good options for defenseman with whichever pick we get in the top 10 though, in my opinion. So not too worried.

Yeah its tougher for sure. But getting a top 10 winger like a Nylander, would have some value in a trade offer, especially if packaged with other assets
 

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I agree that they do need high end talent...

However, good luck trading a winger for an equal quality center or defenseman. Doesn't really happen. There should be plenty of good options for defenseman with whichever pick we get in the top 10 though, in my opinion. So not too worried.

The only defensemen I like (outside of Dahlin) are rated to go in the mid 1st. I wouldn't be mad if Wings trade their 3rd-7th overall pick for a 12th-15th pick + 2nd, and draft two quality defensemen. Better odds and many top tier dmen come late(r) in the draft anyhow. There's some studs predicted to go later than our draft position.

In order:
1. Wilde
2. McIsaac
3. Mattias Samuelsson

And with the 2nd hope someone like Alexander Alexeyev falls to you.
 

Whoshattenkirkshoes

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Assuming we get a top 8 pick (and we better) I would select in this order

Dahlin
Tkachuck
Hughes
Zadina
Kupari
Boquist
Dobson
Wahlstrom

Considerations to Bode Wilde,


Something really gets me the wrong way with Svechnikov. I would not draft the guy.

Unfortunately due to our end of year seeding and draft lottery I see us selecting a forward. (who knows)
 

Leadzedder

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The only defensemen I like (outside of Dahlin) are rated to go in the mid 1st. I wouldn't be mad if Wings trade their 3rd-7th overall pick for a 12th-15th pick + 2nd, and draft two quality defensemen. Better odds and many top tier dmen come late(r) in the draft anyhow. There's some studs predicted to go later than our draft position.

In order:
1. Wilde
2. McIsaac
3. Mattias Samuelsson

And with the 2nd hope someone like Alexander Alexeyev falls to you.


Assuming we trade Green for a 1st, we may actually have 4 picks in the top 35ish.

Our first.
Green first.
Our early 2nd.
Ottawa’s early second.

In that case no need to trade down our first. Unless they are 100% locked on a guy that they know will be there a couple picks later.

Example. Trading 3 OA for 5th OA plus a nice sweetener.
 
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Reddwit

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Assuming we trade Green for a 1st, we may actually have 4 picks in the top 35ish.

Our first.
Green first.
Our early 2nd.
Ottawa’s early second.

In that case no need to trade down our first. Unless they are 100% locked on a guy that they know will be there a couple picks later.

Example. Trading 3 OA for 5th OA plus a nice sweetener.

Don’t want to act like some expert here but I think trading down takes a lot of serendipity and coordination. But if we had the 30A I would be ok trading down to 6-7 for that team’s 2nd and maybe something more (historically it takes a TON to move into the top 3-5).

But if we could do that and get the 7th, the ~28th (Green), the 34th (ours), the 35th (ottawa’s), and the 37th (for trading down)...yes please. God. Our whole future could turn around with that draft if we’re properly keyed in.
 

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Assuming we get a top 8 pick (and we better) I would select in this order

Dahlin
Tkachuck
Hughes
Zadina
Kupari
Boquist
Dobson
Wahlstrom

Considerations to Bode Wilde,


Something really gets me the wrong way with Svechnikov. I would not draft the guy.

Unfortunately due to our end of year seeding and draft lottery I see us selecting a forward. (who knows)

Your list is ridiculous. You would take wingers with Detroit's top pick? Is that you Wright?
 

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I have been watching the Mooseheads extensively since 2012 and Zadina is my favorite prospect they have had since Mackinnon/Drouin. He is a very complete player.
 

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Your list is ridiculous. You would take wingers with Detroit's top pick? Is that you Wright?

You might want to go look at some mocks. The high-end talent in this draft is on D and the wing. Now is not the time to go center, which thankfully since I want us to go D should help us.

My 1-2-3 remains unchanged. I am starting to lean towards Zadina and Tkachuk to round out my top 5.
 

Frk It

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You might want to go look at some mocks. The high-end talent in this draft is on D and the wing. Now is not the time to go center, which thankfully since I want us to go D should help us.

My 1-2-3 remains unchanged. I am starting to lean towards Zadina and Tkachuk to round out my top 5.

I’m telling you... Noah Dobson, bud. I think he’s your type of defenseman. Keep an eye on him at the U18 World Juniors.

I also like Wahlstrom above Tkachuk, as far as the USA forwards are concerned. But both are good.
 

Go Wings

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You might want to go look at some mocks. The high-end talent in this draft is on D and the wing. Now is not the time to go center, which thankfully since I want us to go D should help us.

My 1-2-3 remains unchanged. I am starting to lean towards Zadina and Tkachuk to round out my top 5.

I have seen all the lists. This is the draft to take defense not centers and certainly not wingers. We use our hopefully 2 first round picks on defense.
 

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I’m telling you... Noah Dobson, bud. I think he’s your type of defenseman. Keep an eye on him at the U18 World Juniors.

I also like Wahlstrom above Tkachuk, as far as the USA forwards are concerned. But both are good.

I like Dobson, I have him in the mix. Just I do really like what I am seeing from Zadina and Tkachuk. We still have the back-half of the season. I was just saying I think my top 3 is pretty locked in and those guys right now are my front runners to lock in the top 5, but Dobson could make a push there.

The good news is, if we have a bottom three finish it is hard to imagine I am down on who we select. This is a very good draft year.

I will say I think Tkachuk has had an uptick in his skating which makes him a little more intriguing.
 

SpookyTsuki

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I’m telling you... Noah Dobson, bud. I think he’s your type of defenseman. Keep an eye on him at the U18 World Juniors.

I also like Wahlstrom above Tkachuk, as far as the USA forwards are concerned. But both are good.

This draft will be one for the ages
 

Marky9er

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I think that Zadina joins Svechnikov as exceptions for "no winger's please". I think he's the 3rd lottery prize. (Which should be pleasing for many when we likely pick in the 4-9 range.)

I have a feeling Zadina could be a 40 goal scorer in the NHL, if he falls in our lap, so be it. We can always win the lottery next year for his centerman. I'm not convinced that Boqvist or Hughes could reach such an impact star level that I can easily imagine for Zadina. Maybe that's just me, but I definitely pause before dismissing him simply because he's a winger. Not that I don't like the next handful of names, and I'd be over the moon with Boqvist at 4. :)
 

Orthodox Caveman

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When you look at our defense...it will be disappointing not to get Dahlin since we can't seem to draft elite defensemen lately.

Svechnikov or Zadina makes our winger depth look pretty good down the road but Dahlin allows the rest of our defense to slot down.

It'll be interesting to see what goes down assuming we don't get the 1st OA pick. It seems like plenty of people have their questions about Boqvist and Hughes. This team just needs a new identity. We're not hungry or dangerous anymore.
 

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With one pick in the top six and two picks in the 30-36 range already plus the late first we will get from Green, we don't need to trade down

If anything we should pkg picks and players to move up.

Either way four picks in the top 36 is sufficient to draft skill, skill, skill
 
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Frk It

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There's 2 pretty talented guys who might drop in the draft because they missed some significant time due to injuries.

Jake Wise and Alexander Khovanov. Both were 1st round rated guys at some point. Wise had a lot of hype, he was almost viewed as another Eichel level player.
 

jkutswings

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There's 2 pretty talented guys who might drop in the draft because they missed some significant time due to injuries.

Jake Wise and Alexander Khovanov. Both were 1st round rated guys at some point. Wise had a lot of hype, he was almost viewed as another Eichel level player.
Are both fully recovered now? Just curious how much time each will have to potentially reverse any slide in the rankings.
 

Reddwit

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With one pick in the top six and two picks in the 30-36 range already plus the late first we will get from Green, we don't need to trade down

If anything we should pkg picks and players to move up.

Either way four picks in the top 36 is sufficient to draft skill, skill, skill

It'll be interesting to see how this draft shakes out, but if we're drafting 3-5, I wouldn't balk at dropping down to 6-7 if it meant picking up an extra late 1st. I wouldn't be surprised if the top 2-5 were all wingers.
 

Reddwit

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There's 2 pretty talented guys who might drop in the draft because they missed some significant time due to injuries.

Jake Wise and Alexander Khovanov. Both were 1st round rated guys at some point. Wise had a lot of hype, he was almost viewed as another Eichel level player.

McBain was hyped too but committing to BU out of OJHL seemed to drop his stock.
 

Rzombo4 prez

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McBain was hyped too but committing to BU out of OJHL seemed to drop his stock.

BC technically. I think his stock started to slide because he isn't being as productive in the OJHL as people think he should be (and rightfully so). No one really expected him to ever play in Barrie. To be honest, he probably should have gone to the BCHL or USHL to play this season. He still produces well, however, whenever he plays internationally. He will be a very interesting option in the top of the 2nd round (provided he lasts that long). The skating needs work for sure, but he is a big, playmaking center.

I was really, really hoping Khovanov would last until our second-round pick (or until Ottawa's)
 

izlez

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So I was just quickly checking on a few prospect's stats and a guy caught my eye while looking at Gustav Lindstrom

Jakob Ragnarsson
Defense
9/23/99
6'0 174 lbs
4-8-12 in 31 games

Compared to our guy:
Gustav Lindstrom
Defense
10/20/98
6'2 187 lbs
1-3-4 in 20 games

And it turns out the two are cousins.
I don't see him ranked very high at all on lists, but his stats suggest he could be worth keeping an eye on in later rounds (and his bloodline suggests we may be keeping an eye on him)
 
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Zetterberg4Captain

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It'll be interesting to see how this draft shakes out, but if we're drafting 3-5, I wouldn't balk at dropping down to 6-7 if it meant picking up an extra late 1st. I wouldn't be surprised if the top 2-5 were all wingers.

Sure dropping from 5 to 6 to add a early second is an okay idea

But dropping from 5 to 16 to add two late seconds or another late first to me is a bad idea

We want, we need, to pick high in the first round
 

HisNoodliness

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I'm still really hoping for Boqvist with our early first. We've got enough size in our prospect pool and young players that we can have a couple of guys that aren't mammoths. He's just so skilled and exactly the type of defenseman that could run our speedy sniper winger offense.

Dobson is intriguing. I'm going to have to check him out some more. He seems to have a great stretch pass which could set up Larkin and AA really well.
 
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