GDT: 2018 Maple Leafs Trade Deadline Thread Pt.II

[Pi]

That is a lot to pay for Rick Nash. Ryan Spooner alone has more point over the last 3 years.

If this is how the rental market is, I really don't want the Leafs to dabble in it. 1st round pick, solid prospect, and a young centre, Beleskey 50% retained for 3rd line winger.

Rangers can just stash Beleskey in the AHL and save 900K so his cap hit is only 1M for them and 1.9M for the Bruins.

 

[thewave]

You know what? Exactly as I wanted yesterday... this makes me happy. A rival just blew some decent futures on a nearly finished power forward for half a season. And the best part is even if they re-sign him, he’s not 28, he ain’t gonna get better

We are no different unless we sell something.

Right now we are buyers...

Jvr cost us a 1st and 2nd prospect
Bozak cost a 2nd minimum
Komarov? Not sure his worth.

Not selling expiring assets is the same as buying. If I said that Canoe you own is worth a million, everyone knows its worth that and will buy it but know tomorow it has no value and everyone else agrees... If you don't sell you bought it.

 

[The Podium]

The best part of the Nash deal, the Rangers can now flip Spooner, and retain another 50% on Beleskey and flip him as well. Just adds even more assets for them.

 

[Stand Witness]

If we can deal JVR and get a 1st + prospect + Spooner level player, we have to do it no?

I think that roster player changes everything. Especially if we can get a solid 2 way player.

 

[ToneDog]

Not only can the Leafs' roll 4 lines, they also have the versatility and quality of depth to mix those lines up and still be effective. That's one of the bigger reasons they're a good team.

We can roll 3 lines. Leo takes the roll out of any line he plays on.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Cant imagine Gortons new stance on McDonagh now if he got that for Nash.

Wouldnt be shocked if he pulled a quick one and increased the price even more. His confidence is going to by sky high this deadline.

Buyer beware. Prices are too high.

 

[ToneDog]

That is a lot to pay for Rick Nash. Ryan Spooner alone has more point over the last 3 years.

If this is how the rental market is, I really don't want the Leafs to dabble in it. 1st round pick, solid prospect, and a young centre, Beleskey 50% retained for 3rd line winger.

Rangers can just stash Beleskey in the AHL and save 900K so his cap hit is only 1M for them and 1.9M for the Bruins.

It has more to do with the dumping contracts market than the rental market IMO. Watch what Sens get for Karlsson if they want to include Ryan's contract.

 

[Clark4Ever]

They added and older JVR but are we fearing them more now than last night? I think not.

The thing is, age and contract status aside, Nash isn't even known as a strong playoff performer.

If we made a deal remotely close to that, I would honestly be livid. I have faith that Lou will stay away from this madness.

 

[Stand Witness]

Correct me if im wrong but a buried Beleskey is only costing the NYR 950k no?

3.8/2=1.9-950k=950k?

That works out great again for the Rangers who won't need the space anyways.

 

[thewave]

Buyer beware. Prices are too high.

Seller of two hot items... Jvr bozak beware.. Sell now hard and fast and get the replacement you need at 2:45pm Monday for cheap.

 

[ToneDog]

The thing is, age and contract status aside, Nash isn't even known as a strong playoff performer.

If we made a deal remotely close to that, I would honestly be livid. I have faith that Lou will stay away from this madness.

If the Leafs were owned by Melnyk, they would make such a move if they wanted to dump a contract. Fortunately they are not and we have Lou making decisions and not Dorion.

 

[ChuckWoods]

Buyer beware. Prices are too high.

I agree.

I would rather sell at this point since I personally believe this playoff push isnt the one for this team.

Trade JVR to Nashville for a 1st + Fabbro. The Predator fans scoffed at that price point previously but theres no question now that would be the price point.

Trade Komorov off for a 2nd and additional piece, whether it be a pick or prospect.

Acquire Letestu or Glendening for a 3rd and lower tier assst to help in a bottom 6 depth capacity.

I personally keep Bozak because he is more of a need than our rental wingers at this point. With Matthews health uncertain, I would like to keep as many “traditional” Centers available at this point so Nylander could be slotted back on wing if need be.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Seller of two hot items... Jvr bozak beware.. Sell now hard and fast and get the replacement you need at 2:45pm Monday for cheap.

I have been against trading JVR and Bozak, but if there are GMs stupid enough to offer a package comparable to what Boston gave up for Nash, I might be willing to reconsider my stance...

 

[studebaker17]

If we can deal JVR and get a 1st + prospect + Spooner level player, we have to do it no?

I think that roster player changes everything. Especially if we can get a solid 2 way player.

That's what Boston was willing to offer and imo payed far to much for an aging Nash who hasn't been a good player for a while now. . It doesn't always mean the next teams will offer or pay as much. Also every player acquired takes another team out of the market . I wouldn't be opposed to trading JVR for a big haul , especially if you can flip those for an immediate impact but we really don't know what the market is for him.
Bozak if it was me would be traded out but i think more because he's holding Nylander back.

 

[ToneDog]

Seller of two hot items... Jvr bozak beware.. Sell now hard and fast and get the replacement you need at 2:45pm Monday for cheap.

Only if you are willing to take on a bad contract and send it to Robbidas island.

 

[thewave]

That's what Boston was willing to offer and imo payed far to much for an aging Nash who hasn't been a good player for a while now. . It doesn't always mean the next teams will offer or pay as much. Also every player acquired takes another team out of the market . I wouldn't be opposed to trading JVR for a big haul , especially if you can flip those for an immediate impact but we really don't know what the market is for him.
Bozak if it was me would be traded out but i think more because he's holding Nylander back.

Just like I said from the start with Nylander. He is a natural C but Matthews takes up a lot of ice out there. A few weeks later Nylander basically said the exact same thing. Good players cover a lot of distance and each of our big 3 can drive their own line with subordinates. Giving Nylander C allows him the freedom to play his game. The fact he never gets the chance is criminal and I suspect for contractual and negotiation reasons SOLELY.

 

[Pi]

Spooner is an interesting target. He's a fast young guy. Babcock probably won't trust him but he's better than Moore as a 4th line C.

We wouldn't even have a "fourth" line if we got him.

 

[AngryScotsman]

I like spooner you think nyr will trade him ... what’s he worth a 2nd ?

Was pondering the same thing.

 

[member 147413]

I agree.

I would rather sell at this point since I personally believe this playoff push isnt the one for this team.

Trade JVR to Nashville for a 1st + Fabbro. The Predator fans scoffed at that price point previously but theres no question now that would be the price point.

Trade Komorov off for a 2nd and additional piece, whether it be a pick or prospect.

Acquire Letestu or Glendening for a 3rd and lower tier assst to help in a bottom 6 depth capacity.

I personally keep Bozak because he is more of a need than our rental wingers at this point. With Matthews health uncertain, I would like to keep as many “traditional” Centers available at this point so Nylander could be slotted back on wing if need be.

Exactly what I’m hoping for.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I agree.

I would rather sell at this point since I personally believe this playoff push isnt the one for this team.

Trade JVR to Nashville for a 1st + Fabbro. The Predator fans scoffed at that price point previously but theres no question now that would be the price point.

Trade Komorov off for a 2nd and additional piece, whether it be a pick or prospect.

Acquire Letestu or Glendening for a 3rd and lower tier assst to help in a bottom 6 depth capacity.

I personally keep Bozak because he is more of a need than our rental wingers at this point. With Matthews health uncertain, I would like to keep as many “traditional” Centers available at this point so Nylander could be slotted back on wing if need be.

We would have to take that deal if it's on the table for JVR. I would love to see Komarov traded simply for the fact that I wouldn't have to watch him miss open net setups anymore.

 

[Gallagbi]

If im a Bruins fan right now, im in full rage mode

Makes sense for them. The heart of their team is aging with Marchand and Bergeron having career seasons. They only have so many kicks at the can left.

 

[Pi]

If we can deal JVR and get a 1st + prospect + Spooner level player, we have to do it no?

I think that roster player changes everything. Especially if we can get a solid 2 way player.

I think Spooner was only added because the Bruins got to offload 50% of Beleskey's contract. Leafs can't afford to take on cap dumps.

JvR's value would be 1st round pick, and a better prospect than the Bruins gave up.

 

[The CyNick]

The defense is miles better and Hainsey needs someone to take some minutes off him especially on the PK before he completely falls off a cliff and while I'll admit a JVR Maroon swap hurts offensively but the defensive upgrade in two positions will make us better overall imo

I don't want to be that guy, but you're wrong. Let's move on though.

 

[studebaker17]

Just like I said from the start with Nylander. He is a natural C but Matthews takes up a lot of ice out there. A few weeks later Nylander basically said the exact same thing. Good players cover a lot of distance and each of our big 3 can drive their own line with subordinates. Giving Nylander C allows him the freedom to play his game. The fact he never gets the chance is criminal and I suspect for contractual and negotiation reasons SOLELY.

Don't think it's that deep myself. Bozak is taking the only spot that's there for Nylander and can't see Bozak fitting anywhere else on the team in any other role like Nylander can. That spot is Nylanders in the future , there's no doubt . The mistake was not trading Bozak last summer but i'd trade him now.

 

[studebaker17]

Spooner is an interesting target. He's a fast young guy. Babcock probably won't trust him but he's better than Moore as a 4th line C.

We wouldn't even have a "fourth" line if we got him.

I'm actually thinking Boston got weaker and slower.