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OT: 2018 Football Thread II: Everyone sucks!!!!!!

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That Darnold pick 6 was the most Jets thing ever. And now it’s great to laugh about it and I’m sure he’s so relieved it’s meaningless.

That went about as well as it could have, and after how it started, it was a f***ing dream week one.
 
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I don't think the Jets are making the playoffs, but the division sucks so they could have a decent record. By decent I mean 7-9 or 8-8.

Buffalo might be the worst team in the league. Miami, despite winning week 1, has an awful roster too.

outside the division they have some winnable games - Browns, Colts, Titans.

I don't think they're a 9/10 win team, but their schedule doesn't look like a 4/5 win team either.
 
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East Coast Bias said:
I don't think the Jets are making the playoffs, but the division sucks so they could have a decent record. By decent I mean 7-9 or 8-8.

Buffalo might be the worst team in the league. Miami, despite winning week 1, has an awful roster too.

outside the division they have some winnable games - Browns, Colts, Titans.

I don't think they're a 9/10 win team, but their schedule doesn't look like a 4/5 win team either.
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I just chuckle to myself when all the preseason publications would list the Jets last, or least talented, or whatever. Implying they had a garbage roster. It's just because they're the Jets; they get no respect. Not that they've been a great franchise and deserve a bunch of it, but still. It's over the top. Like when last season people were saying they'd win no games or maybe one. Get f***ing real.

The have good WRs, a potentially really good young QB, solid RBs, a decent offensive line (however it is perilously thin), okay DL, decent LBs (although no pass rush from there), and excellent secondary. They look like they might have a really nice return game, though the coverage unit will probably suck again. P and K are fine.

They're not a garbage team. I honestly wonder how some of these pundits get paid to write the trash that they do.
 
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Chris Drurys Weekend said:
There will be other quarterbacks. The Giants haven't been able to run the ball since 2012.
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And there won’t be other running backs? Plenty of great running backs have been picked in the later rounds; the hit rate is much better than taking a QB in that range, by far. Frankly, QBs are just straight up more important and more valuable.

Besides, there is certainly no guarantee the Giants will be in a position to draft a QB like Darnold any time soon.
 
Bozle said:
And there won’t be other running backs? Plenty of great running backs have been picked in the later rounds; the hit rate is much better than taking a QB in that range, by far. Frankly, QBs are just straight up more important and more valuable.

Besides, there is certainly no guarantee the Giants will be in a position to draft a QB like Darnold any time soon.
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I tend to agree because I don't see the Giants being as bad as they were last year again. Not saying they'll contend but there's too much talent here to go 3-13 with competent coaching.

I suppose after the backlash last year, they're afraid of having to push Eli out if the next guy is ready in a year. But like you said, the team might not be in a position to draft the next guy when Eli either finally hangs it up or dies playing behind Flowers.
 
nyr2k2 said:
I just chuckle to myself when all the preseason publications would list the Jets last, or least talented, or whatever. Implying they had a garbage roster. It's just because they're the Jets; they get no respect. Not that they've been a great franchise and deserve a bunch of it, but still. It's over the top. Like when last season people were saying they'd win no games or maybe one. Get ****ing real.

The have good WRs, a potentially really good young QB, solid RBs, a decent offensive line (however it is perilously thin), okay DL, decent LBs (although no pass rush from there), and excellent secondary. They look like they might have a really nice return game, though the coverage unit will probably suck again. P and K are fine.

They're not a garbage team. I honestly wonder how some of these pundits get paid to write the trash that they do.
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They are not garbage but I don't see you making playoffs. Wouldn't be surprised to see you finish 8-8.

Happy to be wrong.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
I just chuckle to myself when all the preseason publications would list the Jets last, or least talented, or whatever. Implying they had a garbage roster. It's just because they're the Jets; they get no respect. Not that they've been a great franchise and deserve a bunch of it, but still. It's over the top. Like when last season people were saying they'd win no games or maybe one. Get ****ing real.

The have good WRs, a potentially really good young QB, solid RBs, a decent offensive line (however it is perilously thin), okay DL, decent LBs (although no pass rush from there), and excellent secondary. They look like they might have a really nice return game, though the coverage unit will probably suck again. P and K are fine.

They're not a garbage team. I honestly wonder how some of these pundits get paid to write the trash that they do.
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Yeah I agree.

When ESPN did their rankings for the rosters in the league, they had them 3rd worst I think? That seemed really extreme.

They have some holes without a doubt. Both O/D lines aren't great and I think we're all aware of that. But there's a lot of talent in WR, the RBs are fine, and their Secondary has some real players.

They're not gonna make the playoffs. Darnold is going to struggle, as all rookie QBs do. The coaching is a bit suspect to me. But I don't see them being one of the worst teams in the league.
 
darko said:
They are not garbage but I don't see you making playoffs. Wouldn't be surprised to see you finish 8-8.

Happy to be wrong.
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Right. I have no expectsexpec of the playoffs. With a rookie QB, even if hesh great, there will be mistakes. The OL and lack of a pass rush will be problems all years. 8-8 isn't unreasonable. I could see them getting lucky and maybe going 9-7 and at least being in the playoff conversation, but that's it. I actually expect like 7-9, but with the pieces they currently have plus the cap space for next year to hopefully address the weaknesses (we'll see, Mac has neglected them for a while), I like where they're at. Within the next two seasons they could be really competitive.
 
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East Coast Bias said:
Yeah I agree.

When ESPN did their rankings for the rosters in the league, they had them 3rd worst I think? That seemed really extreme.

They have some holes without a doubt. Both O/D lines aren't great and I think we're all aware of that. But there's a lot of talent in WR, the RBs are fine, and their Secondary has some real players.

They're not gonna make the playoffs. Darnold is going to struggle, as all rookie QBs do. The coaching is a bit suspect to me. But I don't see them being one of the worst teams in the league.
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Yep pretty much exactly this. I don't remember if it was ESPN, but someone had the offense last and defense like third from the bottom.

We'll see how it all plays out. All I'm expecting is for them to be playing some meaningful games in a couple months. I'd be happy with that.
 
nyr2k2 said:
Yep pretty much exactly this. I don't remember if it was ESPN, but someone had the offense last and defense like third from the bottom.

We'll see how it all plays out. All I'm expecting is for them to be playing some meaningful games in a couple months. I'd be happy with that.
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Most people seem to base their predictions of next season on last season. But you just can't do that with the NFL.
 
Chris Drurys Weekend said:
There will be other quarterbacks. The Giants haven't been able to run the ball since 2012.
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And outside that one crazy run by Barkley, they were still held in check. His talent is a big reason why that run happened, but you're looking at the Giants taking Barkley and the position the Cowboys are in right now, and it's hard not to think they're trending that way.

Prescott looked really good having a #1WR (Dez) a top RB (Zeke), one of the best TE of all time (Witten) a crazy OL and a solid defense. Now, he has Zeke. They look like trash. I think they're a 5 win team.

They were in a spot to pass the torch from Eli to Darnold or even Rosen for that matter, and they went with a RB, one of the shortest lifespan positions in the game.
 
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