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Nurse won’t attend Oilers camp without a contract....

Forbort and Voynovs rights for Nurse? :sarcasm:

Nurse-Doughty
Muezzin-Martinez
Phaneuf-Ladue
Brickley/MacD/Fantenberg
 
The last time someone was "out until Christmas" it was the end of their career.

Those were fun times.

Allison's Pessimism Rankles Murray
Amid speculation that neither Allison nor Adam Deadmarsh will return this season, General Manager Dave Taylor said, "I guess there's that possibility."

Allison No Closer to Return
Allison remains an invisible part of the Kings, showing up as early as 7 a.m. for off-ice workouts at the team training complex and often leaving before the rest of the team arrives hours later.

He has not skated in more than a month and still feels symptoms that include blurry vision and light-headedness, contributing to a prolonged absence that led to tensions last month when Allison disputed Coach Andy Murray's assessment that Allison had been medically cleared to play. Allison called it "basically a lie" and defended his condition.

Allison, 28, declined to comment for this story. A team policy initiated last month forbids King employees from talking to reporters about Allison, with the exception of General Manager Dave Taylor.

This letter submitted to the Times pretty much summed up what was going on:
Varying Stories About Kings' Injuries
Throughout the summer, King management indicated that Jason Allison and Adam Deadmarsh would be back at the beginning of the season.

Then, just before the season started, it was announced that the players would be back in November. Then November came and went. Then the Kings said Allison would be back after Christmas.

Now Andy Murray indicates that he may not be back at all this season and Allison accused someone in the Kings' organization of lying about it.

I can only assume that King management lied to keep season seat renewals and sales high. This is sad, but it is a business.

Oh how little did they know...
Dave Taylor Hasn't Just Been Sitting There

These guys knew what was up...
Is Roenick Going to Be a Chronic Headache?

Good lord were those some depressing times to be a Kings fan.
 
Justin Williams also had health issues. That trade turned out fine for us.

I'd rather Vilardi get fully healthy. If that means he's out until Christmas, then he's out until Christmas.

Wasn't Williams' injuries flukey ? Not only that, at least he had an NHL career under his belt before his injuries happened. Vilardi can't even stay healthy for camp.
 
that's completely false

Dwight King was on our first goddamn line for crying out loud, yet he's lucky to get a PTO on a Pee Wee team; players being in or out of a roster has less to do with the player than how garbage your roster is

i think Etem can do as "fine" of a job as Clifford or Thompson or Brodzinski
but ultimately, none of those 4 should be on any roster other than Seattle
There's a reason why Thompson and Clifford have been in the league so long.

They both can be valuable assets to teams. Brodzinski on the other hand is a question mark. It's make or break for him. I don't give a shit what he produces in the AHL, do something in the big league.
 
Those were fun times.

Allison's Pessimism Rankles Murray


Allison No Closer to Return


This letter submitted to the Times pretty much summed up what was going on:
Varying Stories About Kings' Injuries


Oh how little did they know...
Dave Taylor Hasn't Just Been Sitting There

These guys knew what was up...
Is Roenick Going to Be a Chronic Headache?

Good lord were those some depressing times to be a Kings fan.

Those were the only years I legitimately stopped watching Kings hockey, like 2003-2005 era. I was a junior and senior in HS during their runs in 2001 and 2002. After that, with all the Lie-weekly stuff and Deadmarsh and Allison going the way of the dodo, I basically didn’t start watching again until 05/06.
 
Those were the only years I legitimately stopped watching Kings hockey, like 2003-2005 era. I was a junior and senior in HS during their runs in 2001 and 2002. After that, with all the Lie-weekly stuff and Deadmarsh and Allison going the way of the dodo, I basically didn’t start watching again until 05/06.

I don’t blame you. I was a season seat holder and I had never left a game early until bearing witness to this embarrassing loss against the Ducks.

Mighty Ducks of Anaheim at Los Angeles Kings Box Score — January 28, 2006 | Hockey-Reference.com



 
that's completely false

Dwight King was on our first goddamn line for crying out loud, yet he's lucky to get a PTO on a Pee Wee team; players being in or out of a roster has less to do with the player than how garbage your roster is

i think Etem can do as "fine" of a job as Clifford or Thompson or Brodzinski
but ultimately, none of those 4 should be on any roster other than Seattle

A place he had no business on, as well as the 2nd, or 3rd line. He was Sutter favorite and it was beyond obvious with his icetme and spot on the team. Even DL eventually saw this and traded him to the utter dismay of Sutter. He was not happy at all.
 
There's a reason why Thompson and Clifford have been in the league so long.

They both can be valuable assets to teams. Brodzinski on the other hand is a question mark. It's make or break for him. I don't give a **** what he produces in the AHL, do something in the big league.
NHL Points Per Game
Brodzinski: .195 (OZS% 52.3)
Clifford: .176 (OZS% 54.4)

Points Per Minute Ice Time:
Brodzinski: .020
Clifford: .017

Shot Blocks Per Game:
Brodzinski: .32
Clifford: .17

Takeaways Per Game:
Brodzinski: .171
Clifford: .167

Giveaways Per Game:
Brodzinski: .171
Clifford: .199

Giveaway / Takeaway Differential:
Brodzinski: Even (7/7)
Clifford: -17 (106/89)

Shot Attempts Per Game:
Brodzinski: 2.88
Clifford: 2.16

Face Off Percentage:
Brodzinski: 40
Clifford: 33.8

Penalty Differential:
Penalty's Taken vs Penalties Drawn Per Game
Brodzinski: -.098 (.098/.000)
Clifford: -.227 (.366/.139)

Clifford does hit and fight more of course, but he's also putting the team in short handed situations more often. There's not much he's better at than JB.
 
Why is it so hard for a team called the "Kings" to have a logo with a crown on it.

Best jersey the Kings ever had was the crown logo from about 12-15 years ago. Instead we get home plates, chevy logos and a lion with sunglasses.

They need to bring these back.

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Given how the uniform rules are though, the yellow sets would have to be replaced with a white set, and the yellow would have to be used as an alternate jersey.
 
God those yellow jerseys are such eyesores.

Black white silver and dark purple are the colors they should stick with. Everything else is too much
 
NHL Points Per Game
Brodzinski: .195 (OZS% 52.3)
Clifford: .176 (OZS% 54.4)

Points Per Minute Ice Time:
Brodzinski: .020
Clifford: .017

Shot Blocks Per Game:
Brodzinski: .32
Clifford: .17

Takeaways Per Game:
Brodzinski: .171
Clifford: .167

Giveaways Per Game:
Brodzinski: .171
Clifford: .199

Giveaway / Takeaway Differential:
Brodzinski: Even (7/7)
Clifford: -17 (106/89)

Shot Attempts Per Game:
Brodzinski: 2.88
Clifford: 2.16

Face Off Percentage:
Brodzinski: 40
Clifford: 33.8

Penalty Differential:
Penalty's Taken vs Penalties Drawn Per Game
Brodzinski: -.098 (.098/.000)
Clifford: -.227 (.366/.139)

Clifford does hit and fight more of course, but he's also putting the team in short handed situations more often. There's not much he's better at than JB.
If he's so much better than Clifford and Thompson then he should make it over them.

Guy's like Linden Vey are probably much more skilled than Clifford/Thompson; yet look how short his career was.

Brodzinski had shown zero at the NHL level; at least Clifford and Thompson can both be serviceable 4th liners than can provide some grit. Brozinski will most likely get zero PP time and zero PK time leaving him in the bottom six where he's shown that he can't produce. Both Clifford and Thompson out scored Brodz and was able to provide physicality that's not part of his game.
 
If he's so much better than Clifford and Thompson then he should make it over them.
He's not so much better than Clifford. He's just slightly better, cheaper, and has more upside.

Thompson kills penalties and wins face offs. Neither of which Clifford does.

I have nothing against Clifford. I think he's an adequate bottom 6 forward.


Brozinski will most likely get zero PP time and zero PK time leaving him in the bottom six where he's shown that he can't produce. Both Clifford and Thompson out scored Brodz and was able to provide physicality that's not part of his game.
Did you not read the stats? The only reason they have higher point totals is because they played more games. Brodzinski scored at a higher rate than Clifford.
 
Why are Brodzinski and Clifford being compared? They don't play the same position. I know some guys can switch wings, but most guys don't. Most guys that can switch usually stay on one side anyway. Their minutes have little to do with each other.

If you want Clifford out of the lineup, get Amadio at C, and put Thompson on the left side.
 
He's not so much better than Clifford. He's just slightly better, cheaper, and has more upside.

Thompson kills penalties and wins face offs. Neither of which Clifford does.

I have nothing against Clifford. I think he's an adequate bottom 6 forward.



Did you not read the stats? The only reason they have higher point totals is because they played more games. Brodzinski scored at a higher rate than Clifford.
Nate Thompson scored the same amount of points in much less games with the Kings while being able to play on the PK and have one of the highest face off win rates in the league.
 
Not sure how much more upside Brodzinski has. He's 2 years younger than Clifford, and with his skill, hasn't been able to establish regular minutes in the NHL.

I don't think he's a bad player, but some can't (or don't) play their game with higher stakes.

You get what you get out of Clifford. He's not a world beater, but his game doesn't change. You'll always expect more from Brodzinski.
 
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Not sure how much more upside Brodzinski has. He's 2 years younger than Clifford, and with his skill, hasn't been able to establish regular minutes in the NHL.

I don't think he's a bad player, but some can't (or don't) play their game with higher stakes.

You get what you get out of Clifford. He's not a world beater, but his game doesn't change. You'll always expect more from Brodzinski.
Exactly. It's not like Brodzinski is some 19 year old coming off great seasons in the AHL.

He's already 25 and has 40 games experience in the NHL. From what I've seen he's a tweener that isn't good enough for a top six role, and doesn't provide what is needed from the bottom six.

Guys like Brodzinski end up in the KHL.
 
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