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Kovalev27 said:
This kid is listed at 6-2 192lbs and he just turned 18??

Kid can skate and dangle very intriguing prospect. He could play at 6 3 205 in a couple years.
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It's also one of the things he's still getting used to. He's grown more than two inches and added some weight in the last year, with more growth likely to come.
 
Also first cuts in

Ronning and Gettinger back to juniors

Kotyk cut

Kovacs and Chapie to the AHL

Kovacs sucks wow
 
2015 looking like a bad draft year, once again. Huska is the only shining beacon of hope, with Zboro and Gropp just on the edge of that light.
 
Not sure where the Vesey-Chytil-Tambellini line falls in that lineup. Probably third line.

Andersson being given every chance to show he belongs.


 
Kovalev27 said:
Weird no Mika is he ok?

Bereglazov doesn't get in? Eeeesh
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Very curious to not see him in the 2nd game, especially with Pedrie and Gilmour getting an opportunity before him. I don't see the KHL out-clause as a guarantee of a spot for him.
 
Staal-Gilmour

I'm legitimately excited to see Staal with a non-elite partner so that he can falter... Gilmour is clearly not Shattenkirk, and I'm happy to see that Staal is now being expected to carry a pairing with his $5.7M albatross contract.

I speak negatively only against his hockey abilities, FYI.
 
jas said:
Very curious to not see him in the 2nd game, especially with Pedrie and Gilmour getting an opportunity before him. I don't see the KHL out-clause as a guarantee of a spot for him.
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I think it's a case of both Pedri and Gilmour being likely to be cut sooner rather than later, so they want to get them a game first. Bereglazov will probably play most or all of the remaining games.
 
Bereglazov not getting a look for tomorrow is an interesting choice by them

I don't need to see anything more from Gilmour to know he is nothing more than an AHL defenseman
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
Bereglazov not getting a look for tomorrow is an interesting choice by them

I don't need to see anything more from Gilmour to know he is nothing more than an AHL defenseman
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Have you watched Gilmour play? only saw him briefly last year, haven't watched him since. Curious as to what he's supposed to become?
 
Ronning being sent back to juniors isn't entirely weird. It was either get sent back for overage season with Vancouver, sign an ELC with the Rangers and burn a year playing for the Wolf Pack (if he signed a contract now, his first year would be burned b/c of rules), or sign an AHL contract and play with the Wolf Pack.

The easiest choice, since he'd still be eligible for a 3 year ELC next year, is to just send him back to dominate in the WHL on a hopefully decent Giants team.
 
Irishguy42 said:
2015 looking like a bad draft year, once again. Huska is the only shining beacon of hope, with Zboro and Gropp just on the edge of that light.
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That's not quite a fair assessment, yet.

Gropp and Zboro have been solid to this point, we'll see how they progress.

Saarela was a solid third round pick, who was unfortunately traded.

Huska looks good thus far.


Without a first round, finding two NHL players out of that draft would be a pretty big accomplishment.

The Rangers have done a pretty solid job despite going 5 years between first round picks. That's going to change most teams track record for finding NHL players in the draft.
 
GAGLine said:
I think it's a case of both Pedri and Gilmour being likely to be cut sooner rather than later, so they want to get them a game first. Bereglazov will probably play most or all of the remaining games.
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I'm not sure I'm buying that. He just doesn't seem to be as high on the pecking order that his boosters would have you believe. I would think AV and staff would want to see him in a game situation. He's already got to be behind ADA, Pionk and Graves for one of the remaining spots on D. If he is as highly touted as some have claimed, he would warrant a look in the 2nd preseason game. And this is coming on the heels of a disappointing showing at the TCT. Things can obviously change, but I don't like what I'm seeing.
 
jas said:
I'm not sure I'm buying that. He just doesn't seem to be as high on the pecking order that his boosters would have you believe. I would think AV and staff would want to see him in a game situation. He's already got to be behind ADA, Pionk and Graves for one of the remaining spots on D. If he is as highly touted as some have claimed, he would warrant a look in the 2nd preseason game. And this is coming on the heels of a disappointing showing at the TCT. Things can obviously change, but I don't like what I'm seeing.
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It might be an understatement to say Bere has not stood out at this point.

Even I have to admit that I've been surprised.
 
Irishguy42 said:
Ronning being sent back to juniors isn't entirely weird. It was either get sent back for overage season with Vancouver, sign an ELC with the Rangers and burn a year playing for the Wolf Pack (if he signed a contract now, his first year would be burned b/c of rules), or sign an AHL contract and play with the Wolf Pack.

The easiest choice, since he'd still be eligible for a 3 year ELC next year, is to just send him back to dominate in the WHL on a hopefully decent Giants team.
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Ronning was the one I thought could get the Nejezchleb treatment with the AHL deal, since he looked like he belonged there in his cup of coffee last season. It's okay though, he's going back to a team that's hopefully better than it was before, and you'd like to see him put up big numbers. I like the kid though. I think he's better than his production to this point would indicate.

Gettinger looked pretty good during TCT. I figured he was a given to go back though. He's still raw, and learning to play within his frame, so going back is a good option for him.

Kovacs and Chapie are going, I assume, to AHL camp. I see little chance of Chapie avoiding the ECHL. Kovacs, I'm not sure about. Given the perceived upside there I'd assume he sticks in Hartford. If he sucks like he did last season however I could see them sending him down as well. I think with the overhauled Hartford staff they want to develop players but also compete, and if Kovacs is Mr. Invisible I don't know if they'll continue to let him float by. He's 20 now so he can't use the "young for the league" excuse, and he should be adjusted to the NA game.
 
jas said:
Very curious to not see him in the 2nd game, especially with Pedrie and Gilmour getting an opportunity before him. I don't see the KHL out-clause as a guarantee of a spot for him.
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I don't see much room for him so I am not sure how the KHL clause can guarantee anything, but let's give him some time. It's September, the month of sore groins and what not. Think the longer Camp goes on the more comfortable he will get.

I think people just need to relax a bit. ;) This organization knows what they are doing, there is a reason for why Gorton and Clarke was really high on him. With that said, like I said, we have little or no room, he could need more time to adjust to the NA game, he could opt to go back to the KHL instead of the AHL and so forth. A player don't change over night, some are acting like he could be Zherdev II in terms of attitude or have zero ability. I've not seen much yet -- if he is looking that bad he is hurt/started doing chrystal meth or something.

We signed him for a reason and definitely know what he is about, we have watched him for a while. For different reasons, this might not be the year for him. But don't worry too much, it's still there and we should be able to find it.

I know of one guy in Sweden that signed with a SHL team, huge shot for him, got an inflation in a toe/under a nail from running in new sneakers and tried to work through it without resting. He had to have three surgeries between March and August. He tried to work out the best he could but it turned out to be a lost year for him. He had a couple of rough years before he could get back. The marginals are small, but if you have done your due diligence you know what you got and can make it work down the line.
 
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Ola said:
I don't see much room for him so I am not sure how the KHL clause can guarantee anything, but let's give him some time. It's September, the month of sore groins and what not. Think the longer Camp goes on the more comfortable he will get.
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He may not have the time to get comfortable. Pionk, DeAngelo and Graves have already impressed, and he's not going in Game 2. If he plays Game 3 to get comfortable, the other three are already comfortable and looking to build on what they've already done. Time is not on his side.
 
People need to remember the summer Kovács has had, let's not overreact to him being cut at camp.

This is a big season for him, he needs to show significant improvement, let's not judge him on training camp.
 
I really don't think what happened this summer is still affecting him. From his IG the whole summer, he seems to be fine.

Using that, at this point, is a crutch. There is no evidence it's a reason for his poor play right now.
 
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