WJC: 2017 Finland Roster Talk

[FiLe]

There should be little to worry about as long as it's an illness and not an injury.

 

[Opak]

Based on the list of players that was released...

Kuokkanen - Nättinen - Palmu
Tolvanen - Räsänen - Vesalainen
Luoto - Borgström - Koivula
Björkqvist - Mattila - Vidgren
Ruotsalainen

Juolevi - Saarijärvi
Välimäki - Heiskanen
Salo - Vaakanainen
Parikka

Kaarlehto
Vehviläinen
Ruusu

Very good D, mediocre forwards. This team really could've used both Saarela and Puljujärvi (I don't think the Oilers let Pulju play in the WJC). Goaltending is a huge question mark, coaching should be pretty good.

 

[BusQuets]

Based on the list of players that was released...

Kuokkanen - Nättinen - Palmu
Tolvanen - Räsänen - Vesalainen
Luoto - Borgström - Koivula
Björkqvist - Mattila - Vidgren
Ruotsalainen

Juolevi - Saarijärvi
Välimäki - Heiskanen
Salo - Vaakanainen
Parikka

Kaarlehto
Vehviläinen
Ruusu

Very good D, mediocre forwards. This team really could've used both Saarela and Puljujärvi (I don't think the Oilers let Pulju play in the WJC). Goaltending is a huge question mark, coaching should be pretty good.

Just curious what is your benchmark of good forwards? Last year's team that had the best offensive depth ever? Because the forwards in this year's team are much better than 2014 for example. There's been maybe couple Finnish teams in WJC that had better forward depth than this one. It seems that last year has clouded some minds.

 

[Opak]

Just curious what is your benchmark of good forwards? Last year's team that had the best offensive depth ever? Because the forwards in this year's team are much better than 2014 for example. There's been maybe couple Finnish teams in WJC that had better forward depth than this one. It seems that last year has clouded some minds.

This year's competition. I have Canada, USA, Sweden and Russia all ahead of Finland, and the Czechs aren't that far away either. I'd say that's pretty mediocre.

This year's group has depth, sure, but it's severely lacking in high-end talent. It's a group of 8-9 middle-6 players, followed by a bunch of guys who just shouldn't be playing at this level. It's funny you should mention the 2014 team, because it is exactly what this team resembles, with the exception that there is no Teräväinen-level forward this time (possibly no Saros either, but we'll see).

 

[BusQuets]

This year's competition. I have Canada, USA, Sweden and Russia all ahead of Finland, and the Czechs aren't that far away either. I'd say that's pretty mediocre.

This year's group has depth, sure, but it's severely lacking in high-end talent. It's a group of 8-9 middle-6 players, followed by a bunch of guys who just shouldn't be playing at this level. It's funny you should mention the 2014 team, because it is exactly what this team resembles, with the exception that there is no Teräväinen-level forward this time (possibly no Saros either, but we'll see).

Lol not even close. Look at the rosters m8.

 

[Snowsii]

This year's competition. I have Canada, USA, Sweden and Russia all ahead of Finland, and the Czechs aren't that far away either. I'd say that's pretty mediocre.

This year's group has depth, sure, but it's severely lacking in high-end talent. It's a group of 8-9 middle-6 players, followed by a bunch of guys who just shouldn't be playing at this level. It's funny you should mention the 2014 team, because it is exactly what this team resembles, with the exception that there is no Teräväinen-level forward this time (possibly no Saros either, but we'll see).

Umm.. Tolvanen? Vesalainen?

2014 had nothing on defense if compared to this years D..

 

[BB88]

I'd like to see Borgstrom in the top6, he has pretty nice offensive skills.
Kuokkanen also looks like a beauty.



In the past losing Pulju, Aho, Laine, Rantanen, Kapanen, Saarela would have killed our chances completely but not this year. The forward group is weak compared to last year but there's still talent and like many have said defense should be our strenght this year.

 

[BigRangy]

The defensemen project very well but if it's going to be mostly first-time draft eligible guys won't inexperience be a big issue? This is a 19 yo tournament.

 

[BB88]

The defensemen project very well but if it's going to be mostly first-time draft eligible guys won't inexperience be a big issue? This is a 19 yo tournament.

Juolevi is the star on our blueline.
He showed last year already that he can carry a garbage blueline to gold.

 

[FiLe]

The defensemen project very well but if it's going to be mostly first-time draft eligible guys won't inexperience be a big issue? This is a 19 yo tournament.

Which is why we'll probably see one of the bottom spots go to some relatively safe, "boring" -97 born - like Rautanen or Parikka - over a flashier youngster all the stargazers are pining after.

Well, that technically happened already with the camp roster being what it is. Of course, Rautakorpi could still snub Vaakanainen and have more than just one of them...

 

[FiLe]

2014 had nothing on defense if compared to this years D..

Yeah, it only had Ristolainen, Lindell, Pokka and Honka.

It's netminding where this iteration loses to the 2014 group. Defense is very much on par, but forwards are far better overall.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

This year's competition. I have Canada, USA, Sweden and Russia all ahead of Finland, and the Czechs aren't that far away either. I'd say that's pretty mediocre.

This year's group has depth, sure, but it's severely lacking in high-end talent. It's a group of 8-9 middle-6 players, followed by a bunch of guys who just shouldn't be playing at this level. It's funny you should mention the 2014 team, because it is exactly what this team resembles, with the exception that there is no Teräväinen-level forward this time (possibly no Saros either, but we'll see).

That's true Finland's offence isn't at all optimum.
Of course there's Tolvanen,Kuokkanen, Borgström, Palmu,Koivula and Räsänen who can score.
But Vesalainen has struggled with scoring-issues in Frölunda ( only 6 points in 16 games) and HPK( 0+0 in 8 games) that's not good signal thinking for U20 WJC's

Everyone says Finland's defense is best than it was in Helsinki but how it'll show on the ice?
Goalies are question-mark and defense is what it is.

I don't have medal expectations at the moment i will let the games show what this team finally earns.
Making in the semifinals will be good result and everything else is a plus ( even medal games).

 

[Steazy Doo]

Is Jonne Tammela still hurt?

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

Is Jonne Tammela still hurt?

Yes that's why he isn't Finland's selection camp roster

 

[Loffer]

This team is too unexperienced and mediocre to cause any havoc but on tabloid pages at most - and for their subpar performing compared to their lofty predecessors.

If the coach Jock Iron Woods irons woods and woods irons then it might be a different matter. But...yeah that does not happen, not outside Europe or fantasy books thick as bibles and as full of mirages and miracles.

I consider it a job well done if they reach the quarters. You cannot do away with the fact written in screaming red letters as big as the ass of a hippo that The team is just a big MEH. No, not anybody's fault. Just the way it is this time around. So, it is time for some other bunch of vibrant kids to celly and tan in the shine of glory and glittering gold. These guys of lionage descent will bring back to Finland only experiences and some maple syrup in a jar if not the autograph of Patrick Laine on their sticks. Yikes.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

This team is too unexperienced and mediocre to cause any havoc but on tabloid pages at most - and for their subpar performing compared to their lofty predecessors.

If the coach Jock Iron Woods irons woods and woods irons then it might be a different matter. But...yeah that does not happen, not outside Europe or fantasy books thick as bibles and as full of mirages and miracles.

I consider it a job well done if they reach the quarters. You cannot do away with the fact written in screaming red letters as big as the ass of a hippo that The team is just a big MEH. No, not anybody's fault. Just the way it is this time around. So, it is time for some other bunch of vibrant kids to celly and tan in the shine of glory and glittering gold. These guys of lionage descent will bring back to Finland only experiences and some maple syrup in a jar if not the autograph of Patrick Laine on their sticks. Yikes.

I do not want to sound impolite but what the **** you talking about ?

 

[Statsy]

This team is too unexperienced and mediocre to cause any havoc but on tabloid pages at most - and for their subpar performing compared to their lofty predecessors.

If the coach Jock Iron Woods irons woods and woods irons then it might be a different matter. But...yeah that does not happen, not outside Europe or fantasy books thick as bibles and as full of mirages and miracles.

I consider it a job well done if they reach the quarters. You cannot do away with the fact written in screaming red letters as big as the ass of a hippo that The team is just a big MEH. No, not anybody's fault. Just the way it is this time around. So, it is time for some other bunch of vibrant kids to celly and tan in the shine of glory and glittering gold. These guys of lionage descent will bring back to Finland only experiences and some maple syrup in a jar if not the autograph of Patrick Laine on their sticks. Yikes.

That was... interesting. I enjoyed trying to decode that post, and I believe that after much thought, I have come up with the answer............. Illuminati confirmed!

 

[FiLe]

^^^If you make a literal translation of that thing to Finnish, it actually becomes a rather coherent - not to mention amusingly written - opinion.

Yet I don't agree with said opinion at all.

 

[Loffer]

^^^If you make a literal translation of that thing to Finnish, it actually becomes a rather coherent - not to mention amusingly written - opinion.

Yet I don't agree with said opinion at all.

Thank you, honorable mr. FiLe. For your kind words and generosity. And now that we are onto it, I guess you are still on the outside to get inside of the matters of interest here.
But then again who knows maybe the age class of players under your caring tuiton is already on the verge of their respective coming out parties and some might even manage to get called to the duty for fighting in the name of the honour of puppet lion cubs, I reckon. Like that miro not the Spaniard artist but what was his name? - the heiskanen kid from IFK Helsinki? Is he in the preselection group btw?

Soon we will see your proteges in these games, mr. FiLe? And you behind the bench?

 

[HockeyHistorian]

Based on the list of players that was released...

Kuokkanen - Nättinen - Palmu
Tolvanen - Räsänen - Vesalainen
Luoto - Borgström - Koivula
Björkqvist - Mattila - Vidgren
Ruotsalainen

Juolevi - Saarijärvi
Välimäki - Heiskanen
Salo - Vaakanainen
Parikka

Kaarlehto
Vehviläinen
Ruusu

Very good D, mediocre forwards. This team really could've used both Saarela and Puljujärvi (I don't think the Oilers let Pulju play in the WJC). Goaltending is a huge question mark, coaching should be pretty good.

I like the way this team looks. I would switch Ruotsalainen with and Luoto or Vidgren though.

I think the PP should work pretty well, at least in theory:

Vesalainen​

Räsänen (R) - Kuokkanen - Tolvanen

Juolevi​

Koivula​

Palmu - Borgström - Nättinen

Saarijärvi (R)​

The best shooters in the team are Tolvanen, Palmu and Saarijärvi. Then we have good PP players with good shots in Vesalainen, Koivula, Borgström and Kuokkanen. Nättinen, Räsänen and Juolevi are all pass-first guys with not so great shots. Frankly, Räsänen is on the PP mostly because he is good at taking FOs and the fact he is a righty.

 

[Loffer]

The thing is this team is full of neverheards aka noobs. And the ones you just and justvknow by name are non-impact players at this level or in general.

Okay, Borgstroem might have one or two aces in his sleeve and this musketeer Eeli Tolvanen should be able to pot a couple. But after that an abyss.

On the defensive side Juolevi n Saarijaervi can do only that much as adequate as they might be eo ipso.

I am interested to see the Vaakanainen to evaluate by my ownn eyes for the very first time if the kid is a real deal or just hot fuzz buzzbn much ado about nothing. Especially compared to Olli Juolevi.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Last time Finland won when Finland had strong D. Although not having Teräväinen or Saros may be a difference maker if none of the players step up.

 

[Hockeyisl1fe]

Last time Finland won when Finland had strong D. Although not having Teräväinen or Saros may be a difference maker if none of the players step up.

Last time we won we had strong D? Last time was this year, not 2014.

Anyways, unlike most of you, I have faith in this team. Do we have top end forwards this year? No, but I think the depth is still good; Koivula, Luoto, Vesalainen, Tolvanen, Kuokkanen, Borgström, Palmu, Nättinen... that's solid imo. We are able to create 3 decent lines and 1 shotdown line. The defense is good, albeit a bit inexperienced. Everyone can move the puck. Goaltending is a big question mark though. Kaarlehto has had a good start, but why Heljanko wasn't selected is beyond me. I think he had potential to be #1. He had an impressive playoff run last season with Jukurit and been okay behind atrocious Leki defense this season.

With that being said, look at CBJ this season. Do they win because they have top end forwards? No, they win because they have 4 scoring lines with puckmoving defense. Sounds quite similar, eh? Also Tortorella and Rautakorpi... ''kahvakiekko'' coaches at their best

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

2014 was a defense victory, 2016 was an offense victory. 2017 would be a balanced victory if such event would take place.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/jaakiekko/art-2000004999748.html
This article got me confused.

How does this thing right now is earlier this week Bob McKenzie tweeted Oilers won't release Puljujärvi in the upcoming world juniors.
Rautakorpi is still waiting for a decision does Oilers relase Puljujärvi or not.

If Oilers really release Puljujärvi to world juniors then why Bob McKenzie tweets Puljujärvi won't play in world juniors.
So which is lying is it Bob McKenzie or Finnish sport media.