Speculation: 2017-18 Roster Discussion - Part 2

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LTIR Trickery

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This. The problem is that he went MIA in the last months of the season where we were desperately looking for secondary scoring. He reached a career high in goals but he scored most of them in a span of a few weeks only to completely disappear for half a season.

I mean if we had reached the playoffs I would not have been surprised to see him back at PPG production like always in the post-season. I can't think of a more streaky player right now than him. Now, the question is, what leads to his streakiness and how to prevent it? How to motivate a player like that? You'd think that's one of a coach's priorities.

I have a theory that a lot of "streakiness" shows itself more on teams that are lacking depth. Favorable matchups plus fatigue plus opportunity generally gets you points. Furthermore, we ran a lot of 11-7 (which i'd actually like to see how much we did that compared to other teams, if someone tracks it) which means everyone is getting double shifted a bit more, and eating more minutes with less consistent linemates. If we can get six solid D that we trust and run four full lines again, I have a feeling his production will increase again, and be slightly smoother.
 

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Gusev buying out his contract with SKA to join the Bolts would do wonders to replace the offense lost with Drouin's departure.

Point should probably be on the 3rd line/2nd pp at this point in his career in order to allow him to develop with a little less pressure. Killorn simply shouldn't be playing in the top 6 imo.

Then buy Callahan out for a little extra cap room to allow some flexibility at the trade deadline.

Namestnikov - Stamkos - Kucherov
Palat - Johnson - Gusev
Killorn - Gourde - Point
Erne - Paquette - Brown

Hedman - Dotchin
Koekkoek - Stralman
Coburn - Sergachev
Sustr

Vasi
Budaj

PP1

Gusev (low post on Stammer's side)-Palat (net)-Kucherov
Stamkos-Hedman

PP2

Killorn-Johnson-Point
Namestnikov-Sergachev
 

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I don't think Brown is gonna be here next year, just a hunch.

I think we may try to bury him and Condra in Syracuse (unless he was just dealing with a nagging injury last year). This season burying saves 1.1 on the cap, so I don't think carrying 200k in dead space for Condra and Brown is a bad idea, assuming we can't move them.
 

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despres is getting buy out with ducks to me that is interesting maybe a stop gap cheapie get boyle add a forward when lose coburn to expansion draft

just my two cents what do i know :)


am interested to see what happens before deadline tomorrow is lots of talk going on

dont see us doing much though even though feelers are out there imho think we sit out till after exp draft look at team do a shake

now vladdy killer tyjo etc.. should all be saft especially tyjo
 

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I will give it a try, assuming we get either Coburn or Garrison (paying LV to take him) off the books.

Namestnikov(1.9375) - Stamkos(8.5) - Kucherov(4.766)
Palat(5) - Johnson(5) - Point (.687)
Killorn(4.45) - Gourde(.950) - Justin WIlliams(3.25)
Erne(.874) - Paquette (.813) - Callahan(5.8)
Brown (1.25)

Hedman(7.875) - Dotchin(.850)
Koekkoek(1 QO) - Stralman(4.5)
Coburn(3.7) - Michael Stone(3.5)
Witkowski, Sergachev

Vasy(3.5)
Budaj(.900)

This would put us around 73m including the Buyout and the Condra burry.
 

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I will give it a try, assuming we get either Coburn or Garrison (paying LV to take him) off the books.

Namestnikov(1.9375) - Stamkos(8.5) - Kucherov(4.766)
Palat(5) - Johnson(5) - Point (.687)
Killorn(4.45) - Gourde(.950) - Justin WIlliams(3.25)
Erne(.874) - Paquette (.813) - Callahan(5.8)
Brown (1.25)

Hedman(7.875) - Dotchin(.850)
Koekkoek(1 QO) - Stralman(4.5)
Coburn(3.7) - Michael Stone(3.5)
Witkowski, Sergachev

Vasy(3.5)
Budaj(.900)

This would put us around 73m including the Buyout and the Condra burry.

good to see ya bub any updates for the draft? aint seen ya on their recently
 

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I will give it a try, assuming we get either Coburn or Garrison (paying LV to take him) off the books.

Namestnikov(1.9375) - Stamkos(8.5) - Kucherov(4.766)
Palat(5) - Johnson(5) - Point (.687)
Killorn(4.45) - Gourde(.950) - Justin WIlliams(3.25)
Erne(.874) - Paquette (.813) - Callahan(5.8)
Brown (1.25)

Hedman(7.875) - Dotchin(.850)
Koekkoek(1 QO) - Stralman(4.5)
Coburn(3.7) - Michael Stone(3.5)
Witkowski, Sergachev

Vasy(3.5)
Budaj(.900)

This would put us around 73m including the Buyout and the Condra burry.

Welcome back, buddy!

I think Coburn is fine, Garrison on the other hand... Don't you think Williams isn't too slow nowadays to keep up with our team?
 

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I have a theory that a lot of "streakiness" shows itself more on teams that are lacking depth. Favorable matchups plus fatigue plus opportunity generally gets you points. Furthermore, we ran a lot of 11-7 (which i'd actually like to see how much we did that compared to other teams, if someone tracks it) which means everyone is getting double shifted a bit more, and eating more minutes with less consistent linemates. If we can get six solid D that we trust and run four full lines again, I have a feeling his production will increase again, and be slightly smoother.

Sounds legit. A lot of our offensive problems had to do with our defensive game and the defense itself. Stralman not 100%, Garrison MIA, Sustr in over his head, Witko filler, Koekkoek not ready, Nesty traded without replacement... Outside of Hedman not a lot of consistency - neither defensively nor offensively. My memory tells me we spent too much time in our own zone chasing pucks. And 11/7 makes things worse re: line combination stability.
 

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Wasn't the cap already confirmed staying the same?
No - it was dependent on the NHLPA voting on the escalator. Someone (LeBrun?) says the NHLPA is voting on a 75m cap (half the escalator, basically) and it seems to have support. Announcement will be later today most likely.

Looks like somewhere between tonite and tomorrow, if they want to get it in for the Golden Knights and the free agent window that starts Sunday

LeBrun's tweet you referenced earlier

 

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I don't know why you guys are keen on going after another defenseman. I don't think Sergachev is the answer right now but when you compare our defense to the Pens, it's pretty equal if Hedman repeats this season going forward. Where we lack skill is up front. Removing Drouin stripped us of a top 6 player with the snap of a finger because the only player we have capable of producing similar numbers is Point.

Right now I'd say we have 4 legitimate top 6 players with Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson and Palat, then one on the verge in Point but we are missing another. Killorn is not that guy. He's an overpaid, albeit good one, 3rd liner. Same with Callahan. We really need to move on from Brown and Paquette. As much as I like them, they're about the easiest combination to defend against in the opposing team's zone. Their offensive instincts are so poor. I have no idea what happened to Paquette's hockey IQ but the last two years he's looked lost. Same goes with Brown, he gets a clear opening to the net and the shot hits the tesla coils. That bottom 6 needs some reshuffling and some work. A legit scoring winger needs to be brought in and I'd say stay put.

I know I griped about our defense last year but the Penguins are showing you don't have to have all stats back there to win...back to back.

How did the Drouin trade strip us of a top 6 player? Stamkos didn't play enough but would've scored more at ES than Drouin just like the other 3 you mentioned did. Point scored more at ES while Killorn had 1 less point and Namestnikov 5, so we really haven't lost much from trading Drouin except a depth forward and a PP specialist. We should be able to replace the PP production with having Stamkos back, the depth forward by having Callahan plus a full year of Gourde.

On defense we have the pieces just not sure how much Cooper and Yzerman believe in them. Koekkoek can replace Garrison but I doubt Cooper sits Garrison for him so Slater won't play a lot. Yzerman probably doesn't believe in Koekkoek since he just traded for Sergachev, who I think should go back to Windsor. Sustr is fine and will be cheap still, see no need to move him when we don't even know if Dotchin is for real. He was good at times in the playoffs but did a lot of dumb stuff still and his skating isn't up to par. At least keep Sustr to start the year to see if Sergachev or Dotchin make him expendable then trade him if needed.
 

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How did the Drouin trade strip us of a top 6 player? Stamkos didn't play enough but would've scored more at ES than Drouin just like the other 3 you mentioned did. Point scored more at ES while Killorn had 1 less point and Namestnikov 5, so we really haven't lost much from trading Drouin except a depth forward and a PP specialist. We should be able to replace the PP production with having Stamkos back, the depth forward by having Callahan plus a full year of Gourde.

On defense we have the pieces just not sure how much Cooper and Yzerman believe in them. Koekkoek can replace Garrison but I doubt Cooper sits Garrison for him so Slater won't play a lot. Yzerman probably doesn't believe in Koekkoek since he just traded for Sergachev, who I think should go back to Windsor. Sustr is fine and will be cheap still, see no need to move him when we don't even know if Dotchin is for real. He was good at times in the playoffs but did a lot of dumb stuff still and his skating isn't up to par. At least keep Sustr to start the year to see if Sergachev or Dotchin make him expendable then trade him if needed.

one note sergey has been playing right side FOREVER now so take it as hes a righty and maybe that had a TON to do with why he was brought in and doesnt affect slater at all

i get all the gruff people shout out on slater but you look at advance stats and everything all the downers are saying is bulll hockey to be blunt so not sure as usual what people watch or what you all expect from d men it takes time

anyone who thinks dotchin is better then koekkoek to me is doing the id 10 test imho

hedman is that friggin good hes the boss plain and simple people you dont know what you have and as far as goalies and d men your mostly lost on this board

my two cents if take offense im sorry is not my intention. I just think a lot of you have really nit picked people to death.

now barberio yep bust but pliable for awhile nesterov bigger bust sustr is enough said you hope the size body someday but hes not the first one to flame out for us lol

connolly? honey badger? this board smdh

weve lost marty yep that sucked but he forced that

now drouin but again i say he forced that

yzerman made good moves out of bad situations

carle dont want to start callahan ohhhh my you want to be right more then wrong and we as a franchise are doing that. Our expectation is cup or bust and there is more than that yep we all want the cup might not happen this year we are heading correctly though

the goal is to have the best plus minus in the league if you do that you got a real shot:)

so we pretty much xxxxxxxxd out where we can score now we got to keep the other team from scoring less and we need to open up more offense instead of 2 sometimes 3 lines being in the wrong end for over half each game

its a balancing act:) we really truly got a damn fine team and organization here i know i watched 38 years of detroit I know what it takes to win. How difficult it is etc..

pitt had some magic yet we were there we had them down last year and couldnt close thats frivilious honestly the other times we got there bad luck injuries etc..

be very scary to see this team on all cylinders at the end and healthy when it counts i wouldnt bet against them:)

we been weak on d forever bishop bailed some of that out with his puck control vasy cant he can sit on it then you need guys to win pucks well we dont have those guys either so then its by attrition beating the other team moving the pucks by d men quickly accurately etc..

i think we are moving right now we are closer.

losing drouin sucked but his defense work was lame look at point if you dont believe long run his drive is not bigger and he has no chance of becoming a better more valuable asset then drouin again imho your missing the boat
 
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How did the Drouin trade strip us of a top 6 player? Stamkos didn't play enough but would've scored more at ES than Drouin just like the other 3 you mentioned did. Point scored more at ES while Killorn had 1 less point and Namestnikov 5, so we really haven't lost much from trading Drouin except a depth forward and a PP specialist. We should be able to replace the PP production with having Stamkos back, the depth forward by having Callahan plus a full year of Gourde.

On defense we have the pieces just not sure how much Cooper and Yzerman believe in them. Koekkoek can replace Garrison but I doubt Cooper sits Garrison for him so Slater won't play a lot. Yzerman probably doesn't believe in Koekkoek since he just traded for Sergachev, who I think should go back to Windsor. Sustr is fine and will be cheap still, see no need to move him when we don't even know if Dotchin is for real. He was good at times in the playoffs but did a lot of dumb stuff still and his skating isn't up to par. At least keep Sustr to start the year to see if Sergachev or Dotchin make him expendable then trade him if needed.

How did it not?

Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson and Palat are top 6 players. Killorn you could argue but I'd say he's a productive and overpaid 3rd liner. I'd say Point definitely will be so if he makes 5 out of the top 6, certainly you don't think Namestnikov is a top 6 player do you? Drouin was a top 6 player on this team and he was going to be going forward. So as plain as it is to see blue skies and clouds, the trade stripped us of a top 6 player. Killorn definitely can fit at times but he's not reliable for 82 games the way we need s scoring winger to be to play against the best in the east.

You think Drouin was merely a depth forward and PP specialist? Lol.
 

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How did it not?

Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson and Palat are top 6 players. Killorn you could argue but I'd say he's a productive and overpaid 3rd liner. I'd say Point definitely will be so if he makes 5 out of the top 6, certainly you don't think Namestnikov is a top 6 player do you? Drouin was a top 6 player on this team and he was going to be going forward. So as plain as it is to see blue skies and clouds, the trade stripped us of a top 6 player. Killorn definitely can fit at times but he's not reliable for 82 games the way we need s scoring winger to be to play against the best in the east.

You think Drouin was merely a depth forward and PP specialist? Lol.

Point production wise Killorn and Namestnikov weren't far off of Drouin at ES. Both of them had a down year while Drouin had his best. Going forward Drouin is easily better than the two but next year those two can replace him adequately. I agree Killorn is a overpaid 3rd liner but can perform in the top 6 at times. Namestnikov advanced stats show he should be a top 6 forward because of all the other things he does, he just doesn't score like one. Hell Callahan was top 6 the last time he was fully healthy which he may be.

Long-term Drouin will be a great top 6 player he just isn't there yet. He was more than a depth player but also not an impact one either, besides the PP. When you score more points on the PP than ES you can be labeled a PP specialist.

Point wasn't expected to be as good as be was last year, I know I expected AHL time to learn the pro game with some callups but not substantial. Next season, which should've been his rookie year, was the fulltime NHL year with some success but nothing special, like he was preinjury. Year 3 was the breakout year. With Point breaking out his rookie year he made losing Drouin or Johnson easier as it wasn't going to affect the top 6 because he could fill in. So losing Drouin didn't strip the top 6 it stripped depth because Point was expected to be on the 3rd line, but maybe Gourde is that depth replacement so Drouin won't be missed all that much anyway.
 

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Point production wise Killorn and Namestnikov weren't far off of Drouin at ES. Both of them had a down year while Drouin had his best. Going forward Drouin is easily better than the two but next year those two can replace him adequately. I agree Killorn is a overpaid 3rd liner but can perform in the top 6 at times. Namestnikov advanced stats show he should be a top 6 forward because of all the other things he does, he just doesn't score like one. Hell Callahan was top 6 the last time he was fully healthy which he may be.

Long-term Drouin will be a great top 6 player he just isn't there yet. He was more than a depth player but also not an impact one either, besides the PP. When you score more points on the PP than ES you can be labeled a PP specialist.

Point wasn't expected to be as good as be was last year, I know I expected AHL time to learn the pro game with some callups but not substantial. Next season, which should've been his rookie year, was the fulltime NHL year with some success but nothing special, like he was preinjury. Year 3 was the breakout year. With Point breaking out his rookie year he made losing Drouin or Johnson easier as it wasn't going to affect the top 6 because he could fill in. So losing Drouin didn't strip the top 6 it stripped depth because Point was expected to be on the 3rd line, but maybe Gourde is that depth replacement so Drouin won't be missed all that much anyway.

Good points. I feel if we made a one year deal on somebody like Marleau, we could alleviate the burden in hopes of having a healthy roster and waiting for Gusev the following year. Hopefully. Either way, a scoring winger on a 1-2 year deal would be great for depth to arrive and for the cap. I don't think bringing in another defenseman is the solution, especially not Shattenkirk. That deal has horrible written on it in my eyes.
 

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Welcome back, buddy!

I think Coburn is fine, Garrison on the other hand... Don't you think Williams isn't too slow nowadays to keep up with our team?

Thanks for the flowers you two :D

Haven't much time at the moment, as I have a lot of work and currently rebuild a old BMW basically the rest of the time when I am not working.

I am already working on a few short "want lists" for friday and saterday, but you will have to wait a few more days...

Williams speed was also my biggest concern, though I remember us wanting him when WSH signed him and I still think he can be useful. But yeah, maybe we should go a different route.

I have always been a fan of Stone and would really love to go after him. HAsn't had the best season as far as I heard, but maybe he can get back to form and IMO he would take a lot of pressure off Dotchin to keep on the quality play from last season, since we would hae 3 top4 RDs on the team...
 

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one note sergey has been playing right side FOREVER now so take it as hes a righty and maybe that had a TON to do with why he was brought in and doesnt affect slater at all

i get all the gruff people shout out on slater but you look at advance stats and everything all the downers are saying is bulll hockey to be blunt so not sure as usual what people watch or what you all expect from d men it takes time

anyone who thinks dotchin is better then koekkoek to me is doing the id 10 test imho

hedman is that friggin good hes the boss plain and simple people you dont know what you have and as far as goalies and d men your mostly lost on this board

my two cents if take offense im sorry is not my intention. I just think a lot of you have really nit picked people to death.

now barberio yep bust but pliable for awhile nesterov bigger bust sustr is enough said you hope the size body someday but hes not the first one to flame out for us lol

connolly? honey badger? this board smdh

weve lost marty yep that sucked but he forced that

now drouin but again i say he forced that

yzerman made good moves out of bad situations

carle dont want to start callahan ohhhh my you want to be right more then wrong and we as a franchise are doing that. Our expectation is cup or bust and there is more than that yep we all want the cup might not happen this year we are heading correctly though

the goal is to have the best plus minus in the league if you do that you got a real shot:)

so we pretty much xxxxxxxxd out where we can score now we got to keep the other team from scoring less and we need to open up more offense instead of 2 sometimes 3 lines being in the wrong end for over half each game

its a balancing act:) we really truly got a damn fine team and organization here i know i watched 38 years of detroit I know what it takes to win. How difficult it is etc..

pitt had some magic yet we were there we had them down last year and couldnt close thats frivilious honestly the other times we got there bad luck injuries etc..

be very scary to see this team on all cylinders at the end and healthy when it counts i wouldnt bet against them:)

we been weak on d forever bishop bailed some of that out with his puck control vasy cant he can sit on it then you need guys to win pucks well we dont have those guys either so then its by attrition beating the other team moving the pucks by d men quickly accurately etc..

i think we are moving right now we are closer.

losing drouin sucked but his defense work was lame look at point if you dont believe long run his drive is not bigger and he has no chance of becoming a better more valuable asset then drouin again imho your missing the boat
This is the one issue I have with yzerman it's all about the future! Well hedman is 26 years old! Stamkos is 27 years Old we are in there prime years now! Kucherov has a wonderful cap hit the next two years! It's time to win a cup now the clock is ticking! Pittsburgh managed to win two straight cups Rutherford rebuilt around Crosby and malkin! And drafted a elite goalie in the 2012 draft behind our goalie. My question with the lightning and yzerman is when will the future arrive? Because we don't have three years to waste for stamkos, hedman and Kucherov. Simple task is we need better defense now and scoring depth from our bottom 6 forwards. So I hope I see yzerman do something in the next 2 or 3 weeks to improve this team! Or we waste another prime year of hedman and stammer and a cap friendly contract of kucherov.
 

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This is the one issue I have with yzerman it's all about the future! Well hedman is 26 years old! Stamkos is 27 years Old we are in there prime years now! Kucherov has a wonderful cap hit the next two years! It's time to win a cup now the clock is ticking! Pittsburgh managed to win two straight cups Rutherford rebuilt around Crosby and malkin! And drafted a elite goalie in the 2012 draft behind our goalie. My question with the lightning and yzerman is when will the future arrive? Because we don't have three years to waste for stamkos, hedman and Kucherov. Simple task is we need better defense now and scoring depth from our bottom 6 forwards. So I hope I see yzerman do something in the next 2 or 3 weeks to improve this team! Or we waste another prime year of hedman and stammer and a cap friendly contract of kucherov.

argue wise besides bodies falling at wrong times we might have 2 cups so
2011 had a shot 2014 i think 2015

argue wise how we ended last year we had a shot too is what it is todd its always been to make the team better more complete and compete now and in the future

you want us one and done I dont?

so pretty much but one year since 2011 we had a shot you don't ask for more legit damn shots

they were not ready the whole time we all see the issues

i think we shore up the d we will get the bottom guys scoring more for my two cents having legit d is everything i had it in detroit for 20 some years it was nice

detroit didnt have the best goaltending either so was always something missing but playoff time? THE BIGS WERE HEALTHY TO CHASE CUPS IN CUP RUNS

i see that as our only difference and im a firm believer over time stuff like that balances out

i told you if had traded point id be pissed drouin not so much. I like our play style i want guys that want to be here and who will go through that wall to win. Drouin is an exceptional guy but im ok getting a stud d man for 10 years for him at this point

also i got sergey as way above jones so it equals out

now we got money as long as vegas helps us just a little we should be able to bring in a 35 year old d man for a year at 1.5 range that actually is top four like an oduya wideman etc.. is a bunch and we can go grab a winger that is top nine

id like vrbata if the deal was right

i like stone too but think he gets at least 4.5 on market and that aint gonna cut it with us and think he gets 5 years guy is 27 hes getting paid

we got to play the chicago game but keep building the core we are fine so far

yall expect tooooo much

i told you way back when detroit it took 10 years once they were neck to neck with edmonton to break through so lets be generous say 2011 is our starting point? well you see we are still ahead of schedule and these elite guys aint turning into damned pumpkins yet jeez
 

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argue wise besides bodies falling at wrong times we might have 2 cups so
2011 had a shot 2014 i think 2015

argue wise how we ended last year we had a shot too is what it is todd its always been to make the team better more complete and compete now and in the future

you want us one and done I dont?

so pretty much but one year since 2011 we had a shot you don't ask for more legit damn shots

they were not ready the whole time we all see the issues

i think we shore up the d we will get the bottom guys scoring more for my two cents having legit d is everything i had it in detroit for 20 some years it was nice

detroit didnt have the best goaltending either so was always something missing but playoff time? THE BIGS WERE HEALTHY TO CHASE CUPS IN CUP RUNS

i see that as our only difference and im a firm believer over time stuff like that balances out

i told you if had traded point id be pissed drouin not so much. I like our play style i want guys that want to be here and who will go through that wall to win. Drouin is an exceptional guy but im ok getting a stud d man for 10 years for him at this point

also i got sergey as way above jones so it equals out

now we got money as long as vegas helps us just a little we should be able to bring in a 35 year old d man for a year at 1.5 range that actually is top four like an oduya wideman etc.. is a bunch and we can go grab a winger that is top nine

id like vrbata if the deal was right

i like stone too but think he gets at least 4.5 on market and that aint gonna cut it with us and think he gets 5 years guy is 27 hes getting paid

we got to play the chicago game but keep building the core we are fine so far

yall expect tooooo much

i told you way back when detroit it took 10 years once they were neck to neck with edmonton to break through so lets be generous say 2011 is our starting point? well you see we are still ahead of schedule and these elite guys aint turning into damned pumpkins yet jeez
I'll wait and see what yzerman does the rest of the summer! Picking up the young d stud was awesome for the future but it came at a big price drouin!! But creates a massive hole in the top six losing drouin. Short term yzerman has work to do! Bottom six forwards we need to add them . Try and land vanek I would! Get Boyle back if we can. Plus got to grab a top 4 d man like a stone or a vet that's cheaper. And sustr needs to be gone or I have no faith in yzerman at all.
 
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I'll wait and see what yzerman does the rest of the summer! Picking up the young d stud was awesome for the future but it came at a big price drouin!! But creates a massive hole in the top six losing drouin. Short term yzerman has work to do! Bottom six forwards we need to add them . Try and land vanek I would! Get Boyle back if we can. Plus got to grab a top 4 d man like a stone or a vet that's cheaper. And sustr needs to be gone or I have no faith in yzerman at all.

I don't see Yzerman being done yet. His team just missed the playoffs and even though we just traded Drouin I don't see him just rebuilding the team for the future. He is a winner and is definitely pissed his team didn't make the playoffs. He will try to build this team up now and later.

With a couple of moves this team will be back next year. As long as everyone stays healthy. Which is all any team wishes for. I really like our future. The good news is there's room to make this team better right now. There wasn't any room for that last offseason. I don't see Yzerman sitting on his hands while there's that opportunity. You just watch. We will stay busy this offseason. Not overly busy but he will put the team back on the map.
 
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