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Ollie Weeks said:
Until I see actually see Gaborik pot a couple goals, or show that he can still turn on the burners, I just wont believe or trust what he can still bring.
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Just ask yourself one question, no matter how he plays will be be better than AA? If you answer yes then we still have a spot for him in the bottom 6.
 
So, the elephant in the room: our defensive depth.

I really like what Folin, MacD, and Fantenberg have individually brought to the bottom pairing, for the most part, but the bottom line is Stevens needs to feel more comfortable deploying them closer to 15 minutes a game. If its a tight game we’re seeing DD, Muzzin and Martinez hovering around or over 25 minutes. Probably not ideal.

I’m looking for one of those bottom 3 to step up or LaDue or Gravel need to force their way back on to the roster by the trade deadline. None of that happens, then a solid #5 who can do an emergency 20 minutes should be on the shopping list. Contrary to the rumour from a few weeks back, I think for now our forwards are just fine.
 
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Ollie Weeks said:
So, the elephant in the room: our defensive depth.

I really like what Folin, MacD, and Fantenberg have individually brought to the bottom pairing, for the most part, but the bottom line is Stevens needs to feel more comfortable deploying them closer to 15 minutes a game. If its a tight game we’re seeing DD, Muzzin and Martinez hovering around or over 25 minutes. Probably not ideal.

I’m looking for one of those bottom 3 to step up or LaDue or Gravel need to force their way back on to the roster by the trade deadline. None of that happens, then a solid #5 who can do an emergency 20 minutes should be on the shopping list. Contrary to the rumour from a few weeks back, I think for now our forwards are just fine.
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A Voynov type would put us over the edge.

Forbort--Doughty
Muzzin--XXX
Martinez--Folin
 
On the D side I think it's just Stevens having confidence in the rookies. And having the bottom pair both being rookies doesn't help. I think we'd be better off splitting up Muzzin and Martinez and having them on different pairs. But that then in theory weakens the top 4 but strengths the overall D core.
 
tsanuri said:
On the D side I think it's just Stevens having confidence in the rookies. And having the bottom pair both being rookies doesn't help. I think we'd be better off splitting up Muzzin and Martinez and having them on different pairs. But that then in theory weakens the top 4 but strengths the overall D core.
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Stevens seems to mix it up a lot more than Sutter. I see Macdermaid with DD a lot. Not uncommon to see Muzz-Fanta and Forbs-Amart... Seems random at times, but I'm sure he's thought it through. It's almost rare to see a MacD-Fanta or MacD-Folin pairing.
 
Doughty set a regular season record for himself for icetime last night. I mentioned it in the GDT too--realize it was less than ideal because we were down a d-man, but though the icetime splits were exaggerated by that, too frequently do we have our top guys north of 25 and our bottom guys south of 10. Gonna run out of gas if that keeps up. I hope he plans to play the bottom guys more as the season wears along or we'd better make a big trade for a surefire top-4 guy.
 
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driller1 said:
Stevens seems to mix it up a lot more than Sutter. I see Macdermaid with DD a lot. Not uncommon to see Muzz-Fanta and Forbs-Amart... Seems random at times, but I'm sure he's thought it through. It's almost rare to see a MacD-Fanta or MacD-Folin pairing.
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The interesting thing is that Sutter seemed to be more comfortable giving a newcomer defensemen a lot more leeway and TOI as opposed to forwards, which Stevens is the opposite of. Sutter would throw anyone with Doughty and give them big minutes. Sure, Sutter would technically play young forwards, but if they didn't mesh immediately, they were demoted to the 3rd and 4th lines by the 3rd period. Thank goodness we have Stevens handling Iafallo and Kempe this season. I agree though, we need meaningful minutes out of Folin, Fantenberg and Big Mac.
 
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Yup, they will run out of gas if he continues to be risky with the ice time.
 
Scoring pace through 15 games of players who have played regularly

Kopitar 44 60 104 +27
Brown 38 44 82 +55
Toffoli 38 27 65 +27
Muzzin 11 49 60 +11
Kempe 38 22 60 +66
Doughty 16 38 55 +44
Pearson 11 38 49 +33
Lewis 22 16 38 +16
Cammalleri 18 25 43 +18
Iafallo 5 27 33 +27
Forbort 0 27 27 +49
Shore 13 13 26 -13
Martinez 13 13 26 +26
Fantenberg 0 26 26 + 7
MacDermid 8 0 8 + 8
Folin 7 0 7 - 7
Andreoff 0 0 0 -25
Laich 0 0 0 -42
 
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Something Ive always been curious about...
Since the Kings never terminated Slava Voynov and he self deported himself, my questions is.... if by some miracle the Kings brought him back, would it be under the terms of his old contract for the remaining years 4 years @ $4.167 mill per???? or would he need a new contract???
I'm willing to bet big that Blake and Co. are much more open to that possibility than DL was... add Kubalik, Prokhorkin, Dergachyov, and Fantenberg as players DL wouldn't have gone after..
 
He'd still be under his old contract.
My guess is that the team held it in hopes he'd want to come back to the NHL. But I don't ever see him playing with the kings again. He'd get traded. His biggest issue is what the league will do if he tries to come back. He'd be able to get over any immigration issues most likely. But is he willing to sit half a year or more in order to play in the NHL.
 
Frankly, most of those scoring paces are more realistic than I thought they would be and along the lines of what many of us expected when the system was going to be loosened up.

kingsholygrail said:
Brown 80pts.. omg
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tsanuri said:
He'd still be under his old contract.
My guess is that the team held it in hopes he'd want to come back to the NHL. But I don't ever see him playing with the kings again. He'd get traded. His biggest issue is what the league will do if he tries to come back. He'd be able to get over any immigration issues most likely. But is he willing to sit half a year or more in order to play in the NHL.
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Maybe they’d consider his two year absence as enough punishment ?
 
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Maybe they’d consider his two year absence as enough punishment ?
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Doubt it. They wouldn't let him play in the world cup last year. The league wants to take the opportunity to make a statement. And it's not like he's not being paid. They want their pound of flesh.
 
kings11 said:
Something Ive always been curious about...
Since the Kings never terminated Slava Voynov and he self deported himself, my questions is.... if by some miracle the Kings brought him back, would it be under the terms of his old contract for the remaining years 4 years @ $4.167 mill per???? or would he need a new contract???
I'm willing to bet big that Blake and Co. are much more open to that possibility than DL was... add Kubalik, Prokhorkin, Dergachyov, and Fantenberg as players DL wouldn't have gone after..
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A good number of news media and hockey sites state the contract was voided. So the kings still hold his rights but there is no contract. It's sort of like the Kovalchuk situation.

Recent news on Slava Voynov - Los Angeles Kings - Rotoworld.com
The NHL might keep Voynov out of the World Cup
Voynov named to Russian roster, status for World Cup unclear
 
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