Agreed, I overlooked Haula but now am perplexed as to why he's not in but Teuvo is, or Korpikoski
World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Finland
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Bear12Good
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Hietanen has never played on smaller ice..
Also based on last years world championships Lindell is far better than both of them.
Roster:
Tuukka Rask, Boston Bruins, G
Pekka Rinne, Nashville Predators, G
Olli Maatta, Pittsburgh Penguins, D
Rasmus Ristolainen, Buffalo Sabres, D
Sami Vatanen, Anaheim Ducks, D
Esa Lindell, Dallas Stars, D
Mikko Koivu, Minnesota Wild, F
Jori Lehtera, St. Louis Blues, F
Aleksander Barkov, Florida Panthers, F
Mikael Granlund, Minnesota Wild, F
Jussi Jokinen, Florida Panthers, F
Valtteri Filppula, Tampa Bay Lightning
Leo Komarov, Toronto Maple Leafs, F
Joonas Donski, San Jose Sharks, F
Lauri Korpikoski, Edmonton Oilers, F
Teuvo Teravainen, Chicago Blackhawks, F
Lindell should only be a surprise to those who don't consider him to currently be among the best six d-men available to us. Which he is.
Now, some might say that he was slated to make it, just surprised to see him make it now already. But hey, if he's slated to make it, why push the pick back?
Well... yeah. Okay. After years and years of strong showings of sauna buddy culture (even recently, as that ridiculous list of "advisors" displays), I guess it was a minor shocker to see such a modern no-brainer list. But hey, all the more reason to like this Marjamäki guy, whoever he is.
Now, some might say that he was slated to make it, just surprised to see him make it now already. But hey, if he's slated to make it, why push the pick back?
Well... yeah. Okay. After years and years of strong showings of sauna buddy culture (even recently, as that ridiculous list of "advisors" displays), I guess it was a minor shocker to see such a modern no-brainer list. But hey, all the more reason to like this Marjamäki guy, whoever he is.
I know that Lindell is damn good, young and promising player but I really didn't expect him to make the World Cup roster for Finland, great for him. Overall not surprises, I'd say. Pretty nice initial roster. Haula probably should be added later. Maybe a bit surprised with Korpikoski who is already selected.
What about Rantanen?
What about Rantanen?
Shows what you know.
The current depth chart for d-men is what it is. And Lindell is pretty damn high on it.
FinPanda
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How close Ville Pokka is making the team? I see only Hietanen/Lepistö/Kukkonen coming from Europe.
QnebO
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Hietanen is out of place in NHL imo. Kukkonen is actually strongest option of those.. I'd see Jokipakka in the team. He has alot of NHL experience already, 40 games this season. He could play regullar in the NHL very well. Hope he gets it going with the flames. 6'3, good all around.
If it's a standard 25-man roster, there are four more d slots open. One will no doubt go to Jokipakka, and from there... well.
Lepistö, Kukkonen and Lindbohm look most likely to complete the field. But just behind them we're already at names like Pokka and Honka. Euro challengers on the same tier are Hietanen and Jaakola.
I will wonder about Hietanen though, if he makes it. No clear right-hooked OD slot since he won't dislodge Ristolainen and Vatanen for the role, and making him play in a more defensive role in a small box would be a shot in the dark.
QnebO
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Patrik Laine has skillset with the puck that outdoes all the NHL veterans already in this roster. I Don't see coach having the balls for this selection though.
His two way game, avoiding risks ect might not yet be there. But he is 17 and learning fast.. FEL playoffs will teach him. Taking him would probably make us better team, I'd be ready to gamble for it. But Marjamäki will look after his reputation and take the safe way with not selecting Laine.
Which makes you sad. Even if the selection would be failure, fans would love it AND this is kinda exhibition tourney after all. Even if this was olympics, he would still be in the discussion, but it being the WC, it should be a tad easier to select the offensive guy.
His two way game, avoiding risks ect might not yet be there. But he is 17 and learning fast.. FEL playoffs will teach him. Taking him would probably make us better team, I'd be ready to gamble for it. But Marjamäki will look after his reputation and take the safe way with not selecting Laine.
Which makes you sad. Even if the selection would be failure, fans would love it AND this is kinda exhibition tourney after all. Even if this was olympics, he would still be in the discussion, but it being the WC, it should be a tad easier to select the offensive guy.
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Its a 23 men roster, so 3 forwards and 3 defenders spots and 1 goalie spot are open. Edit: Mistake, of course 3 forwards too.
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The funny thing is, I can't find the confirmation anywhere. Some sports sites say it's 23-man roster, others (including NHL.com way back in the fall) said the limit will be 25. There's definitely unclarity on the issue.
It's baffling, when you think about it. The managements of participating teams probably know, but how damn hard is it to post the full tournament format in some official source?
It's baffling, when you think about it. The managements of participating teams probably know, but how damn hard is it to post the full tournament format in some official source?
FinPanda
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What I was thinking was maybe one of Hietanen/Lepistö/Kukkonen probably makes the team, I wasn't taking them all. Jokipakka before those of course. I should have made myself more clear. I was just interested if Pokka has a chance and looks like he has.
Jokipakka, Määttä, Lindell, Ristolainen and Vatanen are in for sure in my opinion, but it gets interesting after that.
Looks like it's 23-man roster btw.
Jokipakka, Määttä, Lindell, Ristolainen and Vatanen are in for sure in my opinion, but it gets interesting after that.
Looks like it's 23-man roster btw.
So...pretty much the worst roster in the World Cup. Or 2nd worst maybe? Once again, the total needs to be greater than sum of its parts.
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If you exclude anything related to scoring goals, all players attributes are elite.
It really reflects the "good" old kaikki pelaa nuori suomi -junior system.. I remember when scoring goals didin't matter in the practice. "Skate these pylons, receive the pass, protect the puck, shoot on the goalie and go back to line. You won't have time to aim the shot in the game. Just get it on the net". Individual skill was seen as arrogant behavior, and we had team practices and almost never individual skill practices. Deking on the blue line resulted in shouting even if you were succesfull. Specially my and some others personal liking to deke and do fancy stuff was worst thing the coach every could have imagined. Winning u12 regional was more important than development of players skills. They taugh only grit, team play, work ehtics, blocking shots, team plays.. skill wasn't something that was considered important factor.
I never cared about what the coach said, I just played hockey my way. Did my moves in the defensive or offensive blue line, some blind passes ect,He picked on me because of that, and I kinda got bored to sport and skipped training and just quit it soon. Safe to say Finnish Hockey lost absolutely nothing in me, luckily, but there might have been some actual players that were ruined.
We wasted at least 10 year-generations of players. I just wonder how good Koivu would be.. though he had Saku and Jukka Koivu to teach him, thats why the system probably couldn't completely ruin him.
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This looks a lot better for Finland compared to the 2014 Olympics where they managed to get the bronze.
How likely are Salomäki and Pakarinen to make the final roster?
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hirawl
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One great thing about the Finnish roster will be the fact the almost the whole forward group is good to play C. Lot of versatility there and you can aggressively cheat on face-offs.
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Lehtinen-S.Koivu-Selanne
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Talk about old time rock'n roll at its finest.
The management team is accredited so we can ice them right? Right?
PP1:
Lehtinen-S.Koivu-Selanne
Numminen-Timonen
Talk about old time rock'n roll at its finest.
The management team is accredited so we can ice them right? Right?
Chimpradamus
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Apparently the NHL forced the hockey associations to bring a squad of retired NHL stars from respective country to scout the players for the team (there even was an article about it on the new garbage site nhl.com). Sweden had Lidström, Alfredsson and Sundin scouting the Swedish players. As a result, the team selection has been the cleanest I've ever seen, as you say, no sauna club selections. At least once the NHL got something right. Too bad the entire purpose of the tournament is a farce to make more money for the NHL owners.
I'm not impressed by the Finnish roster, except for the goalies. There aren't exactly any Selännes on the team, no big stars. The generation change have caught you in a speed bump. Then again, nobody barely ever is particulary impressed by the Finnish roster on paper and they still go far.
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For once, I can honestly say I don't mind at all. Not the opinion, I mean. The simple fact that they aren't and may not go far.
mattihp
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I wouldn't be surprised if there will be a rule that the third period is to be played by 35+ players only and that the puck will be replaced by a ball.
Limekiller
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BTW, if anyone needs the confirmation on him, Donskoi has been absolutely outstanding this season for the Sharks. Saying that as a Sharks fan who watches him all the time. Very very happy we have him. Good as he has been for us in just his first year here in the NHL, he's only going to keep improving, so I'm really excited to see what he's doing for us 2-3 years from now. Really happy for him he got the team invite.
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