No Phaneuf ever.
I actually like him. If he was paired with some good overall d-man (Doughty, Pietrangelo) I think he would be fine. Mainly, he could be better in two years.
World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Canada
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I actually like him. If he was paired with some good overall d-man (Doughty, Pietrangelo) I think he would be fine. Mainly, he could be better in two years.
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I love Price but it's no slam dunk he's the starter. Bernier and Holtby could easily be the starter by 2016.
As I said before, when it comes to Mr. Phaneuf, you need to deduct from the neck up.
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No Phaneuf ever.
I'd like to echo that sentiment. The only leafs player who gets my vote is Bernier...but I imagine he'll be nursing that injury for most of the summer.
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Hall - Crosby - Stamkos
Tavares - Toews - MacKinnon
Benn - Getzlaf - Perry
Duchene - Bergeron - Carter
Keith - Weber
Subban - Pietrangelo
Bouwmeester - Doughty
Price
Crawford
Tavares - Toews - MacKinnon
Benn - Getzlaf - Perry
Duchene - Bergeron - Carter
Keith - Weber
Subban - Pietrangelo
Bouwmeester - Doughty
Price
Crawford
Can't leave out Giroux this time around. He should be there in the 2016 World Cup.
McGlassbangers
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Must admit, I completely forgot Giroux. He'd take Duchene's spot on my roster.
Hall - Crosby - Stamkos
Tavares - Toews - Giroux
Benn - Getzlaf - Perry
MacKinnon - Bergeron - Carter
He has certainly been. I watched the Flyers early this season, and the Giroux then, and the Giroux of now is a completely different player. I think the injury was a significant reason for his slow start. Guy is playing at an elite level. He should be there playing for Canada the next time around.
No to Phaneuf, the guy has been a complete sinker this season; he has almost been awful defensively for the 2nd half of the season. If he's a liability on NHL ice, then he will definitely be a liability on international ice. I also do not want him for the 2016 World Cup (or whatever they call it). As for Giroux: I have watched around 40-50 Flyers games this season (live in the Philly area as of now), and I con say that this dude is clicking on all cylinders. Right now, he is doing it all: scoring, assisting, playing good defensively, the whole nine yards. I remember the Chicago game where he took over the game in OT. The dude also has a sick wrist shot AND one timer!
Maybe I'm being a bit biased but I really think Mark Giordano could/should make the team in 2016. He's been amazing this year and honestly should be a candidate for the Norris this season. If he plays well next season, I could definitely see him being on the team considering he was on the reader this year for the Olympics.
Maybe I'm being a bit biased but I really think Mark Giordano could/should make the team in 2016. He's been amazing this year and honestly should be a candidate for the Norris this season. If he plays well next season, I could definitely see him being on the team considering he was on the reader this year for the Olympics.
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Watching some Dallas games lately, and I think I would have to amend my own roster already to find a place for Seguin. I want to see something from him either in the playoffs or the WC this year, but he's been dynamite. Canada is weaker on the right side, and honestly could use some more shooters. Seguin could fill that role quite effectively, plus he brings elite speed and competent defence.
The 2016 World Cup, if there is a World Cup, will be on the small ice so the roster will be very different. Players like Lucic will be an option. Anyway, I hope we stay at the Olympics and the World Cup dies a quiet death.
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I originally posted my team for the 2018 Olympics, so I'll make changes for the 2016 WC (assuming on NA Ice)
John Tavares - Sidney Crosby (C) - Steven Stamkos
Jamie Benn - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Claude Giroux - Jonathan Toews (A) - Nathan MacKinnon
Patrick Sharp - Patrice Bergeron - Jeff Carter
Tyler Seguin
Duncan Keith - Shea Weber (A)
Vlasic - Drew Doughty
Alex Pietrangelo - PK Subban
Brent Seabrook
Price
Bernier
Crawford
John Tavares - Sidney Crosby (C) - Steven Stamkos
Jamie Benn - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Claude Giroux - Jonathan Toews (A) - Nathan MacKinnon
Patrick Sharp - Patrice Bergeron - Jeff Carter
Tyler Seguin
Duncan Keith - Shea Weber (A)
Vlasic - Drew Doughty
Alex Pietrangelo - PK Subban
Brent Seabrook
Price
Bernier
Crawford
TheGroceryStick
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Drouin-Crosby-Stamkos (Stammer and Drouin rip it up and hard to separate)
Hall-Tavares-MacKinnon (Hyped 1st overalls, All with great gifts)
Giroux-Toews-Seguin (Mix and match line, no denying the talent)
Benn-Getzlaf-Perry (Makes too much sense to roll out this line)
Bergeron (duh)
Keith-Weber (easy)
Doughty-Pietrangelo (easier)
Subban-Ekblad (?? pairing, lots of time and it will tell ALOT!)
Murray
Price
Bernier
Mason
Hall-Tavares-MacKinnon (Hyped 1st overalls, All with great gifts)
Giroux-Toews-Seguin (Mix and match line, no denying the talent)
Benn-Getzlaf-Perry (Makes too much sense to roll out this line)
Bergeron (duh)
Keith-Weber (easy)
Doughty-Pietrangelo (easier)
Subban-Ekblad (?? pairing, lots of time and it will tell ALOT!)
Murray
Price
Bernier
Mason
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I don't think Drouin will be considered for TC at 2016, to be honest. There's a high chance he won't be playing with Stamkos to start the season, and a sophomore slump is a big possibility, too.
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Never confuse me for a Dion Phaneuf fan. I'd never be an advocate for Dion's spot on any NT anywhere or at any tournament. However, Rielly has considerable upside... not sure he'll be in the mix for the World Cup team in 2 years, but 4 years from now and a possible Olympics if NHLers are there, then sure! If he doesn't regress like so many junior age d-men do when promoted too early. Not sure when, if ever, NHL GMs will learn their lesson.
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Yep, the two countries that can compete with Canada are the U.S and Sweden. The U.S purely based on population and having their hockey program in good shape. They do have a bit of an age gap between their high talent in their forward group and their next great prospects, right now they're producing a lot more very good D-men then forwards, but that's my opinion. Sweden will have a very good D-core as well...but in saying all that Canada is by far and away the most talented team in 2016 and 2018..I can't explain how good the 2018 Olympic team is going to be. I really can't..it's going to be something to see. The forward talent and depth is beyond anything we've had and yes I'm including the teams of the Canada Cups. The D-Core is going to be rock solid. Outside of maybe goaltending we won't have any holes on the team. It's going to be stacked up front and on the back-end. And Price/Bernier will be in the middle of their primes.
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I feel like you're forgetting or possibly underestimating Pietro? I really feel like he is a legit #1 defenseman, who has no problem playing on any ice surface. There are lots of times I think he can be every bit as good as Doughty. He had a different job in Sochi, but he can certainly be given a more offensive task if need be. I really don't see any other country with a top 2 that good.
Maybe that's just me though.
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I didn't forget Pietrangelo. I'm a big fan. He should be a lock for any edition of Team Canada for the next decade, and in my opinion he's currently a top 5 defenceman in hockey. I also defended his play when people erroneously criticized him during the Olympics. I may be guilty of forgetting how young he is though. Hard to believe he only recently turned 24.
Canada is definitely in tremendous shape at the top end due to Doughty/Pietrangelo. What I was mainly talking about, and exaggerating to be honest, is the young defencemen coming from Canada compared with USA and Sweden. For a period of time in the 00s Canada was producing defencemen far superior to everyone else, which culminated in 2008. Since then, Sweden and USA have been very comparable, if not better. Think of it as me being a spoiled fan who is displeased if Canada isn't doing a clear-cut superior job in every area.
Let's all hope the NHL continues to commit to the Olympics. One good sign is that the US TV rights holder for the NHL has just completed a US TV deal for the Olympics until at least 2032. Let's hope that network will help convince Bettman and the NHLPA to continue to play in the Olympics.
US hockey players are heavily concentrated in the N-East...whereas in Canada they're spread out hither and yon, making it - even without the CHL factor - highly problematic to try to hothouse kidz, and also unnecessary imo.
Getwiththeprogram
We won at U18's last year, and we win at Ivan Hlinka practically every year, and my understanding is that everybody ( except USA ) sends their best team to that tourney
Part of the problem we're having at WJ's lately has to do with NHL cradle robbing, a lot of our best kidz ( MacK for example ) may be one and done at WJ's at 17...Strangely enough, HC doesn't let kidz who have graduated to our U20 play anymore at U18's either, so again a phenom like McDavid was one and done at U18's at 15
Yankee NTDP's/ college kidz tend to make their NHL debuts later ..Ergo tend to be available longer for WJ's, ditto many euros, especially Russians...
I know that's not the whole story, and it may also sound like a bit of a cop-out, still we're producing more top talent, year in year out, than any other nation.
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I dunno...to me, the Russians, at least at the forward positions ( and lately in net too ) are on a par with them, at a bare minimum...
As for the rest...I agree that HC et al. could be doing a lot more to encourage skill development, with more emphasis on practice as opposed to competition/ games for the youngsters...and yes, in this they would be well served to take a closer look at both the Euro and Yankee models...
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