World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Canada

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Button's 2016 WCH Team Canada

Hall-Crosby-Stamkos
Benn-Seguin-Giroux
OReilly-Toews-Bergeron
Carter-Tavares-Stone
Toffoli

Keith-Weber
Brodie-Doughty
Vlasic-Subban
Letang

Price-Crawford-Fleury


ommissions: Getzlaf, Perry, Johansen, Nash, Burns, Giordano, Pietro, Neal



Yeah gimme: Getz+Perry over OReilly+Carter, possibly Johansen over Stone
 
Hall-Crosby-Stamkos
Benn-Seguin-Giroux
OReilly-Toews-Bergeron
Carter-Tavares-Stone
Toffoli

Keith-Weber
Brodie-Doughty
Vlaic-Subban
Letang

Price-Crawford-Fleury



No McDavid.... Blasphemous!!! :cry:

ommissions: Getzlaf, Perry, Johansen, Nash, Burns, Giordano, Pietro, Neal



Yeah gimme Getz+Perry over OReilly+Carter

McDavid will be on the U23 top line. He doesn't have a choice.

And it's not bad at all. The homer in me wants Eberle on the team but it's a good roster.
 
You realize there is a North American U23 team????? :facepalm:

skipped my mind :laugh:



so U23 would look like...



MacKinnon-McDavid-Eichel
Scheifele-Monahan-Gaudreau
Galchenyuk-RNH-Drouin
Strome-Jenner-Saad
Huberdeau

Ekblad-Murray
Hamilton-Jones
Trouba-Rielly
Dumba

Gibson-Hellebuyck-Subban
 
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Nice to see Brodie starting to get the recognition he deserves.

Getzlaf and Perry will figure it out though. Their absence is laughable
 
As bad as the Canadian players are playing overall, that's still an incredible lineup.

The number of Canadian forwards playing well is quite low for whatever reason. Seguin and Benn are obviously tearing it up. I found Tavares good before his illness. O'Reilly has been really good for Buffalo. MacKinnon looks like he is busting out despite how bad Colorado is. Hall is playing well, and Bergeron is quietly playing at an elite level. I think that's it at the moment.

While I do hate this tournament due to the gimmicks, I do enjoy a good projection. Ignoring idiotic eligibility rules, I would look to something like this right now:

Benn Tavares Seguin
Hall Crosby Stamkos
O'Reilly Toews Bergeron
Schwartz Giroux MacKinnon
McDavid

Vlasic Doughty
Pietrangelo Subban
Keith Weber
Brodie

Price
Holtby
Fleury

To me Benn, Seguin and Tavares are the three best Canadian forwards right now, and they would fit together nicely. Benn and Seguin work and provide everything, while Tavares is probably the smartest forward in hockey. Crosby and Hall worked well together at the WHC, and Hall deserves a high spot in the depth chart right now. Stamkos is disappointing. I don't think we will ever see the player he was before his broken leg. Still, he is an elite sniper who needs to simplify his game and accept what he is at this point. Let Crosby set him up and let Hall fill in the gaps. The third line is a super shutdown line that would be monstrous in possession. Bergeron and O'Reilly could play up or down on any line and fit in given their hockey IQ. Fourth line has Giroux, who I think can bounce back somewhat (and is being held down by the situation in Philly) and play a very strong two way role like he did at the 2015 WHC. MacKinnon deserves a more prominent role than this based on his play this year, and if Stamkos doesn't start strong then MacKinnon can take his spot. Schwartz is still quite underrated in my opinion, and brings elite two way play. McDavid is a wildcard who might actually deserve to be further up the lineup.

The defence is familier. Vlasic is having a good year, and Doughty is playing mostly the same as usual. Subban deserves a more prominent role now, so he's on the second pairing. Pietrangelo is his partner. I don't know why so any people are down on him, as he's still elite defensively and still moves the puck very well. Keith and Weber are slowing down a bit but they are still good enough to make the team on merit, even before considering the experience boost.

The last spot is very tough. I went with Brodie because of how good he has looked lately and because he is left handed. I wish he had more international experience. Burns was my next choice, and if I was more concerned about size then he would make it. He's having a really good year thus far. Letang is someone that I think would be great internationally, but he needs to start putting up more points to be really effective.

Goaltending is easy. Price is the starter. Holtby and Fleury are pretty good, and Fleury has a personality that seems to fit well with being third string, which I mean as a compliment.

In terms of what will actually happen, they've gone with a pretty conservative coaching staff, so I expect to see Getzlaf, Perry and possibly another more experienced player on the wing. Canada would be smart to look at why McLellan's WHC team was so dominant though... it wasn't just because of the talent level.
 
One thing I don't like about this is that they should've allowed both Canada and US to pick their best players first. I don't really think Canada would take out more than 1 or 2 players, and the US more than 3 and even that is doubtful imo. The U24 team would still be strong

But, at least, even though I would rather watch McDavid for Canada for sure, it's gonna make the U24 team really interesting to watch competing against Finland, with players of that caliber.

Let's think about this for a second, is McDavid going to be any worse of a choice than Getzlaf by September of 2016? I personally think your better option is McDavid. This is bad for Canada.

There are better options the Ekblad. He's a great player but there are a ton of vet D I would take over him.

McDavid is an amazing player. He's been very fun to watch. But he's also got some flaws that come with being an 18 year old kid playing against the best in the world.
Based on how Canadian teams have been built in the past (defense mentality) I'm not so sure he would have been a lock. Same goes for Mackinnon.

Plus I think it gives the U23 team a chance to go on a run which would kind of be horrible yet interesting haha.

Oh it will be horrible alright..........the better the 23 and under team does the more egg the NHL gets on its face. Since this tournament can not be anything else but a mockery I am actually hoping for a full blown egg on the NHL's face to teach them a lesson. Honestly, as a Canadian is anyone cheering for this team? I'm not.
 
Oh it will be horrible alright..........the better the 23 and under team does the more egg the NHL gets on its face. Since this tournament can not be anything else but a mockery I am actually hoping for a full blown egg on the NHL's face to teach them a lesson. Honestly, as a Canadian is anyone cheering for this team? I'm not.

Isn't that what international competition is about? Cheering against young players from your own country?
 
In terms of what will actually happen, they've gone with a pretty conservative coaching staff, so I expect to see Getzlaf, Perry and possibly another more experienced player on the wing. Canada would be smart to look at why McLellan's WHC team was so dominant though... it wasn't just because of the talent level.

you see how quickly things change... look at Getzlaf and Perry now. Getzlaf 4 assists in two games already, Perry was their best player AINEC against Florida where he got his first goal, and now has 5 points in 3 games. I think the Ducks had just a bad start generally, and they're getting it together now. As much as they (G+P) were invisible at the start, they look like the first-caliber stars now again.


Anyway, good line-up.
 
you see how quickly things change... look at Getzlaf and Perry now. Getzlaf 4 assists in two games already, Perry was their best player AINEC against Florida where he got his first goal, and now has 5 points in 3 games. I think the Ducks had just a bad start generally, and they're getting it together now. As much as they (G+P) were invisible at the start, they look like the first-caliber stars now again.


Anyway, good line-up.

I wouldn't be tooting that horn considering 3 pts (assists) came against CBJ. If it is not the worst team in the league, they're neck and neck with the less than talented TMLers.

Check back again in Feb/March.
 
^ of course, I agree, they need to keep that level of playing

O'Reilly has been better offensively for Buffalo than I expected. I wonder if he just made another step forward to be a truly elite player, or it's just early. But he's definitely on my radar. A bit similar situation with Toffoli, he needs to show some consistency though. But what if he actually scored 40...he's a great two-way player. Those types of players don't just grow on trees.
 
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^ of course, I agree, they need to keep that level of playing

O'Reilly has been better offensively for Buffalo than I expected. I wonder if he just made another step forward to be a truly elite player, or it's just early. But he's definitely on my radar. A bit similar situation with Toffoli, he needs to show some consistency though. But what if he actually scored 40...he's a great two-way player. Those types of players don't just grow on trees.

Big Tofolli fan. Always have been and still pissed and still hold a grudge against Hockey Canada for cutting him from the 2012 junior team.

but thankfully that Admin and mindset has been expunged from HC. or at least I hope it has... want to see more of tic tac tao, please.

and picking up on that theme, where the hell did this Parayko kid come from....and was he even in the discussion in 2013? super impressed.
 
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you see how quickly things change... look at Getzlaf and Perry now. Getzlaf 4 assists in two games already, Perry was their best player AINEC against Florida where he got his first goal, and now has 5 points in 3 games. I think the Ducks had just a bad start generally, and they're getting it together now. As much as they (G+P) were invisible at the start, they look like the first-caliber stars now again.


Anyway, good line-up.

For me, Getzlaf and Perry are players that will need to consistently prove themselves going forward. They're at an age when players often start declining, particularly those who play a power game. They can't afford to see a drop in their skating. One plus is that they bring a unique element that the other top Canadian players largely don't bring. In any event, with that coaching staff I fully expect them to be in attendance.

^ of course, I agree, they need to keep that level of playing

O'Reilly has been better offensively for Buffalo than I expected. I wonder if he just made another step forward to be a truly elite player, or it's just early. But he's definitely on my radar. A bit similar situation with Toffoli, he needs to show some consistency though. But what if he actually scored 40...he's a great two-way player. Those types of players don't just grow on trees.

O'Reilly had a great offensive year in Colorado when he played LW, and he's a top ten defensive forward as well. I could see O'Reilly playing with any line.

Big Tofolli fan. Always have been and still pissed and still hold a grudge against Hockey Canada for cutting him from the 2012 junior team.

but thankfully that Admin and mindset has been expunged from HC. or at least I hope it has... want to see more of tic tac tao, please.

and picking up on that theme, where the hell did this Parayko kid come from....and was he even in the discussion in 2013? super impressed.

Bigger question is where were Pouliot and Severson? 2013 was a wasted year for Canada at the WJC.
 
For me, Getzlaf and Perry are players that will need to consistently prove themselves going forward. They're at an age when players often start declining, particularly those who play a power game. They can't afford to see a drop in their skating. One plus is that they bring a unique element that the other top Canadian players largely don't bring. In any event, with that coaching staff I fully expect them to be in attendance.



O'Reilly had a great offensive year in Colorado when he played LW, and he's a top ten defensive forward as well. I could see O'Reilly playing with any line.



Bigger question is where were Pouliot and Severson? 2013 was a wasted year for Canada at the WJC.




Good ole Kevin Pendergast. Can't say I miss him.
 
skipped my mind :laugh:



so U23 would look like...



MacKinnon-McDavid-Eichel
Scheifele-Monahan-Gaudreau
Galchenyuk-RNH-Drouin
Strome-Jenner-Saad
Huberdeau

Ekblad-Murray
Hamilton-Jones
Trouba-Rielly
Dumba

Gibson-Hellebuyck-Subban

This is a lineup that can do some real damage in the tournament.

I think Larkin and Parayko are in the mix as well.
 
They'll beat Finland imo and will definitely give Russia a hard time.

I seriously think every single game will be extremely interesting and no fun at all, because if you want to keep playing, you have to win every game you can. Once you lose you can be out ouf the tournament, considering only two teams advance from each group.
 
The number of Canadian forwards playing well is quite low for whatever reason. Seguin and Benn are obviously tearing it up. I found Tavares good before his illness. O'Reilly has been really good for Buffalo. MacKinnon looks like he is busting out despite how bad Colorado is. Hall is playing well, and Bergeron is quietly playing at an elite level. I think that's it at the moment.

While I do hate this tournament due to the gimmicks, I do enjoy a good projection. Ignoring idiotic eligibility rules, I would look to something like this right now:

Benn Tavares Seguin
Hall Crosby Stamkos
O'Reilly Toews Bergeron
Schwartz Giroux MacKinnon
McDavid

Vlasic Doughty
Pietrangelo Subban
Keith Weber
Brodie

Price
Holtby
Fleury

If you remove MacKinnon and McDavid (due to ineligibility, not merit) and replace them with Perry and Getzlaf, and switch up Brodie for Giordano, I think that's our 23-man group for the World Cup. Of course someone like Jeff Carter (which wouldn't be the worst decision in the world) or Rick Nash may still find their way onto the team instead of, say, Schwartz given the overriding preference for veterans these past few tournaments, but IMO this World Cup would be a good opportunity to turn the page on a few of these older guys and start getting the younger generation ready for international best-on-best competition.

Also, IIRC the 2004 World Cup allowed for 26-man rosters (15 F, 8 D, 3 G), so a few of those older guys may still sneak onto the team.
 
Hall / Crosby / Stamkos
Benn / Tavares / Seguin
Giroux / Getzlaf / Perry
Couture / Toews / Bergeron

Carter, ROR

Keith / Doughty
Giordano / Weber
Vlasic / Subban
Pietrangelo / Letang

Price
Holtby
Fleury

Getzlaf and Perry should be near shoe ins a rough start to the season doesn't change that for me. Had to sneak Giroux on to the team somehow due to simply being way too good to be left off. I understand that both Pietrangelo and Letang are RHD but only one of them will need to dressed at a time.
 
If you remove MacKinnon and McDavid (due to ineligibility, not merit) and replace them with Perry and Getzlaf, and switch up Brodie for Giordano, I think that's our 23-man group for the World Cup. Of course someone like Jeff Carter (which wouldn't be the worst decision in the world) or Rick Nash may still find their way onto the team instead of, say, Schwartz given the overriding preference for veterans these past few tournaments, but IMO this World Cup would be a good opportunity to turn the page on a few of these older guys and start getting the younger generation ready for international best-on-best competition.

Also, IIRC the 2004 World Cup allowed for 26-man rosters (15 F, 8 D, 3 G), so a few of those older guys may still sneak onto the team.

I agree that those predictions are more likely to mirror what will actually happen. They've gone with a pretty conservative coaching staff, and I expect that they will give Getzlaf/Perry every chance to make the team. Carter is having a good year and isn't a bad pick. I also agree that this would be a good chance to change things up and bring in new blood. Brodie would be an example of this. If it's debatable who is better between him and Giordano, and that seems to be the case, then they might as well bring the younger one in order to get some experience for him. It's not like the defensive group is going to be lacking in experience.

A good thing is that Canada now has a good crop of two way wingers coming up. That's been a relatively weak area of Canada in recent decades, with most responsible players being deployed at centre. Schwartz and Stone are very good defensively on the wings, and O'Reilly played a whole season at LW as well. I see all of them as Selke calibre players either now or very soon.

I've seen it said that countries have to have their 23 man roster submitted by ______, so I think it will be 7D and 13F. That doesn't make much sense though given that the NHL wants as many NHLers as possible.
 
Doug Armstrong, the GM of Team Canada, on relatively unexpected players that are on TC's radar:

"But what's great about scouting this and going through this is that there are players that are having really good seasons that weren't on that radar screen that we're really going to hone in on.

"A couple of examples are Toffoli in Los Angeles is playing very well, Muzzin in Los Angeles is playing very well, Stone in Ottawa is a very good player, Gallagher in Montreal. That's just to name a few of the guys that are getting our attention."
 
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