WJC: 2016 WJC Division I Group B (Dec. 12-18)
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Seems Poland is going to be without one of their top players, Alan Lyszczarczyk, who is currently with the Sudbury Wolves. He was listed on their preliminary roster the other day, but word out of the Polish Ice Hockey Federation is that Sudbury won't release Lyszczarczyk due to needing him as the team has injury problems. Poles are obviously upset at this, as it kind of ruins their plans at the last minute, and I do believe that CHL teams are obligated to release players for IIHF tournaments. Obviously going to hurt Poland's chances at staying in this level.
Link in Polish about this
Link in Polish about this
Why not start at the World Championships in Japan and logging out that I have not experienced that niejaka country did not go to the World Cup!!!!
3 Minute Minor
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technically Lyszczarczyk isn't allowed to play for Sudbury for the duration of the tournament if the CHL team decides to be di.. I mean... not allow him to go.
I am fan of polish national team, but this situation will be better for Alan and draft position. This year he will be on high position at draft and next year he will make some record on WJC
I am fan of polish national team, but this situation will be better for Alan and draft position. This year he will be on high position at draft and next year he will make some record on WJC
It would be nice if he gets drafted, especially in a higher round. And he better be allowed to go next year, the Poles could really use a player of his calibre on their team.
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Usually wen this happens it's due to money and reluctance for a federation to send a team somewhere far. This is why Bulgaria didn't play last year and why some other teams in the lower divisions miss on occasion. But seeing hw Japan is actually a wealthy nation, not really sure, though they too may have not wanted to pay for their team to go to France, although announcing it this late is bad form. Something must have come up for that to happen.
this is certainly not that they had no money. I do not understand that today play a friendly match with France are in Megeve and does not play the World ......
If they already were in France playing exhibition matches and backed out still, that's really odd and I have no idea what the issue is then. Really looks bad for the Japanese, as they are usually a country that has everything together.
The Japanese Ice Hockey Federation released a statement (in Japanese), which according to Google Translate says they had concerns about the safety of the players due to the state of emergency in France.
As I've written elsewhere: So they were already in France, and likely arrived after said state of emergency was declared, and only decided less than a week before the tournament started to withdraw? That's poor form on the Japanese side, and while it's tough for the players, it's good that the IIHF is punishing them for this by relegating them.
As I've written elsewhere: So they were already in France, and likely arrived after said state of emergency was declared, and only decided less than a week before the tournament started to withdraw? That's poor form on the Japanese side, and while it's tough for the players, it's good that the IIHF is punishing them for this by relegating them.
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I don't really feel like that's a punishment. Pretty much automatic I would think, if a team chooses to not play then you pretty much have to play it as they forfeited all their matches by not showing up and thus were last, thus they get relegated. I'm sure Japan knew that was coming when they made the decision.
Unless the IIHF deems it to be unsafe and gives the teams an option not to play then you have to play, if not you're automatically last and relegated.
A punishment would be like sending them down 2 levels, or fining them. Not that they should do either of those things, what happened seems fair, just doesn't seem like a chosen punishment just regular course of action in such a case.
Well, they weren't relegated after the earthquake hit Japan back in 2010 or 2011 and they didn't send a team.
The excuse about terrorism in France actually got me laughing. Are they for real?
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that seems like a reasonable reason though I don't know the exact circumstances, the IIHF would have given them a pass under the correct circumstances. This was obviously not the correct circumstances. If you don't want to show up when you don't think it's safe when the IIHF does and are having 5 other teams go there then you can pretty much expect to be relegated.
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Agreed. IIHF got this right, this is a completely different situation from the earthquake disaster and the relegation is deserved.
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Extremely happy to hear that Japan decided to withdraw due to security issues instead of lack of finances or development in hockey. Also good to hear that IIHF will relegate them for deciding to withdraw as well. But that team should be good enough next year to get promoted back in D1B in 2017.
Call me bias, but I don't think Poland were the favourites to get relegated, I think Ukraine or maybe GB would be the ones, especially since GB lost Duggan due to injury.
Call me bias, but I don't think Poland were the favourites to get relegated, I think Ukraine or maybe GB would be the ones, especially since GB lost Duggan due to injury.
I am curious to see SMS 20 Sosnowiec effect. Is SMS reasonable project? Is SMS same project like Oranjes in Slovakia?
And just one question. Why don't you take SZTWIERTNIA from Czech U20 league?
This GBR team barely avoided relegation as U18 team in D2A 2014., for example Croatia beat them easily with 7:1.
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GB U18s always under perform compared to when they get to U20. There's too many reasons to list why that's the case.
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For example: GB was just leading Slovenia 2-1 in the 3rd and are now taking them to OT lol
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I honestly have no idea what the hell is going on with Łyszczarczyk, he played last night for Sudbury where they lost 8-1. Seriously the season is done for them already, let him play. 
Only thing I can think of is that he's got a minor (playable) injury and want to keep him to rehab it in Ontario. Or they're Edmonton Oilers-ing him with what they did to Draisaitl. At least he accepted the invite.
Honestly I can't tell you what's going on with Sztwiertnia. Maybe Poland wants majority of the players to come from the SMS 20 Sosnowiec team? Or maybe he thinks he has a chance to play with the Czech team? Its interesting though because he is already 18 years old and has not played for either country.
Only thing I can think of is that he's got a minor (playable) injury and want to keep him to rehab it in Ontario. Or they're Edmonton Oilers-ing him with what they did to Draisaitl. At least he accepted the invite. Its a private high school dedicating all its time around the focus of hockey. Its based in south Poland. In a sense its based off concepts like Slovakia's Orange Team and USA National Development Team. 90% of the WJC Polish players come from it. Now though, they are playing against men like how the Orange Team is constructed. This is to help development, but more importantly, chemistry, which we saw with Slovakia's last years World Junior team. But they do a lot of off ice training as well like America's program. I heard that Germany might be doing the same thing in the near future, creating a development team as well.
Honestly I can't tell you what's going on with Sztwiertnia. Maybe Poland wants majority of the players to come from the SMS 20 Sosnowiec team? Or maybe he thinks he has a chance to play with the Czech team? Its interesting though because he is already 18 years old and has not played for either country.
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They didn't announce that Duggan wasn't playing until after Japan had already pulled out
We don't think it was a coincidence
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