2016 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

[IBeL34f]

Marner might be the only top 6 pick who doesn't play in the nhl this yr

I know Arizona's signed Strome already, but are they expecting him to crack the lineup immediately this year?

Obviously it's not my call, but I'd think a year as Eerie's #1 guy would be beneficial for him.

 

[p.l.f.]

Hard to say. But I wouldn't be suprised if he starts the season with Arizona for the first 3 wks

 

[PJJ]

If we ever got Chychrun, I would see it like this

Rielly-
Chychrun-
Dermott-

fill up the right side by trading/signing some RHD and hopefully Lindgren pans out

 

[Cotton]

Chychrun is sort of Canadian. Born in USA.

Chychrun and Brown both pulled Brett Hull's, American born but are choosing to represent Canada.

 

[Sundinisagod]

If we ever got Chychrun, I would see it like this

Rielly-
Chychrun-
Dermott-

fill up the right side by trading/signing some RHD and hopefully Lindgren pans out

The Swedes are all right:

Chychrun - Lindgren
Rielly - Granberg
Dermott - Nilsson

 

[Animal]

The Swedes are all right:

Chychrun - Lindgren
Rielly - Granberg
Dermott - Nilsson

I can't see Granberg as more than a #5 defence man, most likely a 6

 

[Celly Hard]

well. if Chychrun is ranked 2nd. and we're 4th.....
it's more so - looking at players in our wheelhouse.

no way, i didn't realize the draft order has been determined... You don't know what players will be in our wheelhouse unless you're a psychic, or Bettman.

 

[Daisy Jane]

no way, i didn't realize the draft order has been determined... You don't know what players will be in our wheelhouse unless you're a psychic, or Bettman.

well, keep it on the down low. I don't want everyone knowing about my super secret special powers of future telling.

but seriously, for me. I never put us in being top 1-3. I always start at 4. and if Matthews, Chychyrun and Puljuvaari are expected to go 1-3, then I'm not going to get all emotionally attached to them. 4-10 is where i'm working with.

 

[kk87]

I really want either Chychrun or Brown. At least one of them will certainly be on the board by the time we pick. They both have size, and they're both Canadian at heart

 

[Stephen]

Chychrun would really help solidify the blueline. If we don't get him I'd still love to grab a forward like Matthews, Puljuharvi, Brown because they add insane skill and size up front. If we grab a forward at the top of the draft, I think they have to consider looking more at defensemen the remainder of the draft.

 

[Bullseye]

Marner might be the only top 6 pick who doesn't play in the nhl this yr

All those Edmonton picks wished they hadn't played in the NHL their first post draft year.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

All those Edmonton picks wished they hadn't played in the NHL their first post draft year.

Not with the contracts they got at 21 years old

 

[Drew75]

Does anyone know if there's a record for the most selections by a team at a draft?

We have 11 now, and even conservatively I can see us ending up with 13 - 15 picks.

We have Parenteau, Reimer, Matthias, Polak, Spaling, and Arcobello all on expiring deals, plus Hunwick, and Winnik on reasonable 2 year deals that can be moved at the draft, not to mention Phaneuf, Lupul, and Bozak ...

I know some of these returns will be prospects or 2017 picks - but seriously next years draft is going to be FUN!

 

[IBeL34f]

Does anyone know if there's a record for the most selections by a team at a draft?

We have 11 now, and even conservatively I can see us ending up with 13 - 15 picks.

We have Parenteau, Reimer, Matthias, Polak, Spaling, and Arcobello all on expiring deals, plus Hunwick, and Winnik on reasonable 2 year deals that can be moved at the draft, not to mention Phaneuf, Lupul, and Bozak ...

I know some of these returns will be prospects or 2017 picks - but seriously next years draft is going to be FUN!

It was brought up yesterday that Chicago had something crazy like 17 picks in 2004. Not sure anyone's had more than that before or since. With all of the 1- and 2-year deals we have right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see us come close. But realistically we'd end up using some to move up and trade our quantity for a little more quality.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Does anyone know if there's a record for the most selections by a team at a draft?

We have 11 now, and even conservatively I can see us ending up with 13 - 15 picks.

We have Parenteau, Reimer, Matthias, Polak, Spaling, and Arcobello all on expiring deals, plus Hunwick, and Winnik on reasonable 2 year deals that can be moved at the draft, not to mention Phaneuf, Lupul, and Bozak ...

I know some of these returns will be prospects or 2017 picks - but seriously next years draft is going to be FUN!

I remember reading that Chicago had 16? in one year?
which. wow.

 

[Silver91]

It was brought up yesterday that Chicago had something crazy like 17 picks in 2004. Not sure anyone's had more than that before or since. With all of the 1- and 2-year deals we have right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see us come close. But realistically we'd end up using some to move up and trade our quantity for a little more quality.

I don't know if that's the record or not, but even so, that was the last draft with 9 rounds, as the current 7-round draft started after the lockout with the 05 draft. So if we can end up with 14+ picks, it'd be quite the feat to walk away with that many prospects added to the system. I do think that, if we have a high volume of picks going into the draft, we will use some as currency to move up in the draft and grab some prospects we really have our eyes on come draft day.

 

[Celly Hard]

I seriously think we have a chance at drafting top 2, Edmonton and Buffalo look better than us on paper. We'll pretty much be competing with NJ and ARI for the top pick.

 

[Woll Smoth]

Might seem like a dumb question but...

There's a 50 contract limit on every team. Each team adds, on average, 7 new prospects per draft year. What happens if you were to draft 30 prospects in the span of 3 years? How long does each team hold the rights to a prospect? Can't this lead to problems with drafting and retaining player rights? And can't prospects choose to re enter the draft if they see they're up against a huge wave of young players on the same team?

 

[IBeL34f]

Might seem like a dumb question but...

There's a 50 contract limit on every team. Each team adds, on average, 7 new prospects per draft year. What happens if you were to draft 30 prospects in the span of 3 years? How long does each team hold the rights to a prospect? Can't this lead to problems with drafting and retaining player rights? And can't prospects choose to re enter the draft if they see they're up against a huge wave of young players on the same team?

Depends on where they're drafted from. CHL kids only have their rights retained for (I think) 2 years after they're drafted, whereas players from European leagues have their rights retained for 4, as well as kids who go through the NCAA. As far as I know, no prospect has any control over their NHL rights once they're drafted, and can't just say they're going back into the draft. They'd have to have their rights expire and then maybe reject any offers from the club that drafted them in order to either re-enter the draft or become a UFA.

Of course, drafting a high quantity of prospects can leave you with a log-jam, but a guy like Hunter thrives in that situation, where he can take those 2-4 years of prospect camps and further development, and get a better handle on who's worthy of a pro contract, and who they need to cut loose. But having more picks in its own right can never really be detrimental, as long as you have the proper scouting team to sift through the dirt to find the diamonds. Draft 20 prospects every year, if you can. Just be prepared for the vast majority of them to never sniff even the AHL in your jersey.

 

[Cor]

I think this why you'll see us take as many NCAA and European players as CHL players.

The former, you have 4 years of control, a bit more control.

Obviously Hunter will be picking who he thinks are the best players, but they won't be shying away.

 

[IBeL34f]

I think this why you'll see us take as many NCAA and European players as CHL players.

The former, you have 4 years of control, a bit more control.

Obviously Hunter will be picking who he thinks are the best players, but they won't be shying away.

I mentioned that after the 2014 draft, we seemed to take a lot of USHL guys heading down the NCAA route, as well as a couple Euros, and for a rebuilding team it really does make a lot of sense. It allows for patience and a longer look before having to make a decision, and keeps them a little more out of the spotlight. If they develop well, they have a chance to step into the pro system as mature adults, as opposed to greener kids. If you're looking to take boom/bust guys, or projects who are going to need a little time, it's almost the best way to go, and lets you avoid giving someone a pro contract when you're not 100% sure they're ready, or cutting them loose when you know they have more to show.

 

[xeroy]

If we want to be a contender in the future:

Chychrun - 2017 1st/Acquired in trade
Rielly - Lindgren
Dermott - Granberg

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Clayton Keller:

After calling a timeout, the Spitfires decided passing on the talent playmaker any longer was not an option.

“He’s a great player and would have been a top five pick in the OHL,†Rychel said. “Sometimes, you have to take a calculated risk.

“We did a lot of background work and we think there’s a good chance, at some point, he’ll come to the OHL and play in Windsor.â€

In another year, there will be early lists for the 2016 NHL Draft and Rychel figures Keller will be a player high on prospect lists.

“He wants to take a year and get a little bigger and stronger,†Rychel said. “I’ve talked to him, his parents and his advisor and we know he’s taking it year-to-year. We’re hoping he has a great year (with the USDP) and gets lots of (draft) attention and coming to Windsor will make sense.â€

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/sports/spits-not-worried-about-keller-playing-with-u17-program

 

[PJJ]

If we want to be a contender in the future:

Chychrun - 2017 1st/Acquired in trade
Rielly - Lindgren
Dermott - Granberg

that looks really solid. Even if Granberg doesn't make it, a bottom pairing RHD should be fairly easy to acquire through FA or trade. Though Chychrun on the first and Rielly on the second pairing looks ideal, I think Rielly would play on the first due to him being more experienced.

 

[Peace Frog]

that looks really solid. Even if Granberg doesn't make it, a bottom pairing RHD should be fairly easy to acquire through FA or trade. Though Chychrun on the first and Rielly on the second pairing looks ideal, I think Rielly would play on the first due to him being more experienced.

Perhaps Gardiner should be considered in that line up somewhere? Don't count him out yet, until we see what Babcock can do with him. Just sayin'.