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Reading both posts, I definitely agree that you should be the one getting over it. His was fact-based. Yours is opinion-based.
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Reading both posts, I definitely agree that you should be the one getting over it. His was fact-based. Yours is opinion-based.
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Shaw looks like the guy from Princess Bride....
And we have a player called Montoya on this team.
DD doesn't have to fight for a spot, he's the bosses kid, and he speaks the right language!!
The biggest joke coming out of camp...
I get it that fans who wanted to see Galchenyuk at C prior to last year and even during a part of last year saw Desharnais as an obstacle, and I get it that David played more minutes than a contending team would normally give him.
But we should not over-react. Playing as the third-line pivot, I think it is entirely possible that both Daniel Carr and Andrew Shaw score between 14-18 goals based in good measure on feeds from Desharnais.
If David hustles like we all know his two current linemates will hustle, which is every second of every shift, we could have a decent third scoring line. We don't need pure defence from our third line, because we have a solid fourth line that can handle 12-13 minutes per game, and we have at least four defensively sound players in our top-6.
Even if Sergachev stays and even if we also want Mike McCarron to make the team, we don't need to send Desharnais down. We can expose Redmond and Flynn to waivers. Both players are "press box tweeners" on this club, whose skill sets are replaceable. There is a good chance one or both would clear waivers anyway.
Or, we could expose Redmond and put Flynn on IR until he is needed to play.
Finally, we can keep McCarron only so long as we have someone on the IR (truth is that it's rare to never have anyone on IR).
Lots of options without giving up the potential for a significant third scoring line.
Agreed. I think the biggest problem most of us have with Desharnais is his deployment. He has no business near a top line and warning-sirens should start wailing if his skates touch the ice during a PP.
But as a 3rd-line C he's the best option we currently have. McCarron might be a better player one day, but not yet. Right now I'll take Desharnais's passing and NHL experience over any of our hopeful rookies. Just keep him there. Staple him. Use crazy-glue. Get a restraining order to keep him from sneaking up. I'd like to start liking the poor guy for what he CAN do, rather than disliking him for what he can't.
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Very true, and some good options...the probelm is not DD, it's his coach and the usage...Me-shell just can't help himself, and DD gets TOI he does not deserve...DD being on the ice when he does not deserve to be, has an effect on the team the players, on the team...
I am of the belief we are a better team when DD is not in the lineup, let alone given PP time instead of Chucky or Pleks...
Right now, DD might bring out more of the scoring touch of both Carr and Shaw so I'm not ready to say that we are a better team with him not in the lineup. He merits a shot before McCarron, right now.
As for PP time, for sure Galchenyuk should be on the first wave, but if Plekanec is gassed after his last shift (he is almost 34) or if he and Lehkonen are not producing on the PP, giving Radulov a DD-Shaw combo to replace them could be worth a look. Obviously if that does not work, you don't keep going back to it.......
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Radulov already showed that he's twice the playmaker that Desharnais ever was and why we would put DD with him? To screw up those plays Radulov will create by not shooting or shooting like an AHLer?
And according to camp, McCarron earned a shot more than DD earned to keep his job.
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Shaw looks like the guy from Princess Bride....
That's hilarious. He totally does. I can actually see him on the ice going up to some player and saying "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
Why try DD a little bit on the PP? I already said why. If Plekanec is either failing or too tired to take a shift. And I would only keep DD on the "third wave" if he is productive enough to merit staying there.
I like what McCarron brought, but he is not quite ready for 3C duties, and we have no one else I would expect could better maximize the goal scoring potential of Carr and Shaw than DD.
For now.
All subject to Desharnais SUCCEEDING at this role, or it should be cut down further.
Better yet, MB go get us Shipachyov at Xmas, and give HIM a shot at secondary scoring centre!
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DD succeeding on the PP...........remember last year, 33 games with alot of TOI for the PP and no points, none in 33 games...and MT went back to him, over and over and over and over................MT is like a crack ***** when it comes to DD, he just CAN'T help himself.
People here say "go by meritocracy".... but then disqualify candidates in advance.
I simply don't agree that you do things that way. If we are to give other people a chance as a third option on the PP once in a blue moon, DD has as much right to audition as anyone else. If the guy is playing well in his 3C role and getting assists on a regular basis, it would be STUPID of the coach to refuse to even try him at a moment when neither Galchenyuk or Plekanec are an option.
No other coach in the league would refuse to give his offensively minded 3C a shot now and then when the 1C and 2Cs are not a viable option.
I'd take McCarron over Desharnais in the lineup. I just don't think McCarron is ready to play center in the NHL and we already have too many wingers who have to go through waivers or back to Europe.
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Probably,
Pac-Galch-Gally
Lehkonen-Plek-Radulov
Carr-DD-Shaw
Danault-Mitchell-McCarron
Beaulieu-Weber
Markov-Petry
Sergachev-Emelin
Price
Montoya
Pac-Galch-Gally
Lehkonen-Plek-Radulov
Carr-DD-Shaw
Danault-Mitchell-McCarron
Beaulieu-Weber
Markov-Petry
Sergachev-Emelin
Price
Montoya
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with the amount of attention galchenyuk's goal got... it seems some want to see him paired with radulov at some point.
knowing therrien, this could happen as early as the first game if the current lines don't have chemistry out of the gate.
knowing therrien, this could happen as early as the first game if the current lines don't have chemistry out of the gate.
This assumes Petry is ok to go.
Unless there are a couple of forwards sick or hurt, I don't think McCarron will stay up. They have already hinted they want him "playing a lot". OTOH, if Flynn and Byron are both out of commission, maybe they would rather have McCarron on the 4th line vs Andrighetto, or vs calling up deLaRose.
So a lot will depend on health status, I think.
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