Line Combos: 2016-17 Line Combinations

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hollafamer

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Marchy-berg-pasta
Debrusk-Dk-Backes
Beleksky-Spooner-heinen
Schaller-moore-acciari

Like to see debrusk given a shot looked good in preseason, hayes benched for heinen. And spooner back centering third. If need move debrusk to third and beleksky to second if lines aren't clicking. Good experiment to try I think. Debrusk, and heinen def need more seasoning via ahl but we have open spots and sometimes best thing for these young guys is to get nhl experience. That way they can understand what they have to work on to have success in nhl game. Look at pasta, his lack of strength made him struggle at times in pro game but he beefed up and now he is ready for a full season to really make an impact.
 

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I agree with what many others are saying in that this third line needs the boot. Heck, the fourth line is more productive and more of a threat on both ends of the ice. For the most part, I like what we saw from the second line. Krejcis performance did spark a little.. But still needs to get THERE.
 
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catsmasher

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Marchy-berg-pasta
Debrusk-Dk-Backes
Beleksky-Spooner-heinen
Schaller-moore-acciari

Like to see debrusk given a shot looked good in preseason, hayes benched for heinen. And spooner back centering third. If need move debrusk to third and beleksky to second if lines aren't clicking. Good experiment to try I think. Debrusk, and heinen def need more seasoning via ahl but we have open spots and sometimes best thing for these young guys is to get nhl experience. That way they can understand what they have to work on to have success in nhl game. Look at pasta, his lack of strength made him struggle at times in pro game but he beefed up and now he is ready for a full season to really make an impact.

Agree 110%. Hayes needs to sit or better yet get sent down. We're talking Caron levels in terms of lack of production at this point. Time to move on and at the same time look to Debrusk for a spark, see what he can do, and hopefully light a fire under some other guys (beleskey). I get that Hayes and Beleskey can be viewed as too high a cap hit to do this but certainly needs to be done with Hayes. DeBrusk, being a 1st round pick two drafts ago, isn't such a far fledged idea this soon into the season. It should (emphasis on should) be considered by Clode and DS learning from mistakes of the past two seasons. Let's face it, our 3rd line is hot garbage and it's already costing us points we could again be regretting come March / April.
 

rocketdan9

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Marchand bergeron backes
Vatrano dk pasta
Beleksky spooner czarnik
Heinen moore schaller

Chara carlo
Krug C. Miller
O'gara liles

Rask

I want to see this 3rd and 4th lines... trade beleksky if he doesnt produce... getting tired of this guy

You cant have a guy like nash centering the third line with hayes as one of the wingers... that is an incredibly sad 3rd line... lucky to get 15 pts out of each player by the season ends
 

Blowfish

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Ok so today's practice sees the following clode line up changes. Grrrrr

Krug Mcquaid. (Miller moved out)

Lucky spoons gets to play centre with misfits beleskey And Hayes. Not sure I understand the latitude Hayes gets in comparison to past prospects looking to make the team. Koko spooner and Griffith come to mind.
 

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Beleskey and Hayes should never be on a line together and putting Spooner in the middle is just setting him up for failure. Beleksey and Hayes are both poor defensively and have little offensive upside. Beleskey at least plays physical which could be helpful for Spooner but then Hayes is on the other side to do absolutely ****ing nothing.
 

rocketdan9

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Beleskey and Hayes should never be on a line together and putting Spooner in the middle is just setting him up for failure. Beleksey and Hayes are both poor defensively and have little offensive upside. Beleskey at least plays physical which could be helpful for Spooner but then Hayes is on the other side to do absolutely ****ing nothing.

At least a better chance to score something vs having a beleksky nash hayes line yuck
 

PB37

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Ok so today's practice sees the following clode line up changes. Grrrrr

Krug Mcquaid. (Miller moved out)

Lucky spoons gets to play centre with misfits beleskey And Hayes. Not sure I understand the latitude Hayes gets in comparison to past prospects looking to make the team. Koko spooner and Griffith come to mind.

I'm pretty sure Hayes has been benched more games than Spooner has in their time here, as well as far less ice time.

Griffith hasn't suited up a game for the Leafs. Nobody wanted Koko in a trade before he went to the KHL.
 

Blowfish

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I'm pretty sure Hayes has been benched more games than Spooner has in their time here, as well as far less ice time.

Griffith hasn't suited up a game for the Leafs. Nobody wanted Koko in a trade before he went to the KHL.

Spooner was not benched he was sent packing to providence. Griffith same before being claimed by leafs. Hayes has done absolutely nothin to deserve another minute on this team.
 

BruinDust

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Beleskey and Hayes should never be on a line together and putting Spooner in the middle is just setting him up for failure. Beleksey and Hayes are both poor defensively and have little offensive upside. Beleskey at least plays physical which could be helpful for Spooner but then Hayes is on the other side to do absolutely ****ing nothing.

That line was a failure last year, one of the main reasons the Bruins took a nosedive down the stretch. Go look up their production together post trade-deadline. Awful.

Leave to Claude to put it back together.

He hasn't figured it out. This top six/bottom six %$$#@ isn't going to work. Spread out your offensive players so each of the Top 3 lines are scoring threats. Moving Spooner down a line just to promote a JAG isn't going to cut it.

And I don't care what Colin Miller's +/- is, I thought he was possibly Boston's best D-man in the loss on Saturday to the Habs, which isn't saying much. Still why is he paying the price and sitting to get a turnstile like McQuaid back into the line-up.

So who is on LW with Krejci and Backes?

Which 4th liner is getting this prime spot? Nash, Moore, Schaller, or Acciari. I'm guessing Moore as he scored on Saturday.
 

PB37

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Like I've said before, I think we need to look at the lines as pairs topped off with a complimentary guy.


Marchand -- Bergeron -- XXXXX

XXXXX -- Krejci --- Pasta

Spooner -- Backes -- XXXXX

Schaller -- Moore -- Acciari


For complimentary pieces, you've got Hayes, Beleskey, Nash on thr pro level and then rookies like Heinen and farm callups like DeBrusk, Czarnik, etc etc.
 

PB37

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Spooner was not benched he was sent packing to providence. Griffith same before being claimed by leafs. Hayes has done absolutely nothin to deserve another minute on this team.

So you want Hayes sent to Providence, ignoring that fact that he would most likely be picked up on waivers? He serves value as an expansion team pickup this coming summer.
 

rocketdan9

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Based on that Scoreless Jimmy might finally be seeing some time upstairs.

It's a start.

Too bad the good of no Jimmy is negated by the addition of McQuaid at the subtraction of Colin Miller.

Where did you see that (miller substraction)
 

PB37

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You could expose Beleksey instead. Probably not a bad move with all the LWs in the system.

I'm not sure what the rules are, but if you are allowed more than one forward to be exposed, Beleskey would also serve value in the expansion draft, probably moreso than Hayes because of his contract.
 

Greek_physique

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Was hoping to see Spooner play with Backes/DK more; however it makes our 3rd line relevant again.

I posted this in the other thread, but Michalek is a UFA. I have a feeling we go after him....mind you he makes a bit of cash, but plays both wings.
 

BruinDust

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You could expose Beleksey instead. Probably not a bad move with all the LWs in the system.

They have to protect 7 and expose 2 who meet the criteria.

Assume you protect.

Bergeron
Krejci
Marchand
Backes
Pastrnak
Spooner

Means you must protect at least one of Nash/Hayes/Belesky to fill all 7 protected spots at F, leaving the other two to meet the expansion criteria.

If say Hayes gets lost on waivers, Boston would have to obtain a forward prior to the expansion draft who meets the required criteria.

The rest of the forwards are exempt, UFA, or don't/won't meet the 70 games this season or last criteria.
 

wintersej

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They have to protect 7 and expose 2 who meet the criteria.

Assume you protect.

Bergeron
Krejci
Marchand
Backes
Pastrnak
Spooner

Means you must protect at least one of Nash/Hayes/Belesky to fill all 7 protected spots at F, leaving the other two to meet the expansion criteria.

If say Hayes gets lost on waivers, Boston would have to obtain a forward prior to the expansion draft who meets the required criteria.

The rest of the forwards are exempt, UFA, or don't/won't meet the 70 games this season or last criteria.

You don't have to protect one of Nash/Hayes/Beleksey. You could protect someone like Schaller. He has two plus professional seasons and meets the requirements for someone who can be picked, even though he doesn't meet the requirements for 70 game/etc criteria.
 

BruinDust

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You don't have to protect one of Nash/Hayes/Beleksey. You could protect someone like Schaller. He has two plus professional seasons and meets the requirements for someone who can be picked, even though he doesn't meet the requirements for 70 game/etc criteria.

Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

Doesn't meet A, and needs to play in 50 games for B.

Now if he plays in 50 games, and the Bruins sign him to a 1-year extension, I think he would then meet the criteria.

Edit: Ah you may be right. I assumed Schaller was a UFA after this season but appears he's an RFA and can be protected. Good call.
 

VanIsle

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Hayes -5 and 0 points this year

Hayes last 16 games last year with 0 points to end the year and a -4

21 games 0 points running total.

What does management see in this guy.

February 24th was his last goal and point.

He doesn't hit or do anything, I could have gotten a freak assist playing 1/4 of a year, Christ Rask had 2 assists in a game already this year.

Same old Bruins same old problems, hanging on to long get rid of this piece of s***.
Get your heads out of your a**** and make a change.

Rant over, time for lunch.
 

GloryDaze4877

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Based on that Scoreless Jimmy might finally be seeing some time upstairs.

It's a start.

Too bad the good of no Jimmy is negated by the addition of McQuaid at the subtraction of Colin Miller.



Marchand—Bergeron—Pastrnak
Heinen—Krejci—Backes
Beleskey—Spooner—Nash—Hayes
Schaller—Moore—Acciari




Like this lineup with Nash in over Hayes, and Spooner in the middle. Just don't think he's a wing and whether the B's are planning on dealing or keeping 51, they are best served with him being comfortable and producing.

If Vatrano were healthy, I would like to see him in that LW position with DK and Heinen with Spooner on Line 3 (Nash drops to the 4th line). I think that Heinen would be more effective at this point with 3rd line matchups.
 

Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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the lines are shaking out I think to what we will see going forward this year

pastrnak will stay with Bergeron/marchand if they remain productive

backes will remain with krejci at least until krejci gets fixed... I feel vatrano is probably going to replace heinen here later on as the line needs more of a shooter than a playmaker

the forth line is a surprise so far... a good surprise... so I don't see the guys losing their spots unless they struggle.

and that puts everyone else in a battle for third line icetime. it continues to look like at least one of spooner/hayes doesn't make sense to keep beyond this year due to cap reasons. I think the spooner move to wing just doesn't work for us. I suppose he should be put back to center and allowed to rebuild his trade value back up again

I guess belesky is falling out of favor here too with the development of the kids... hes clearly behind marchand on the depth chart. with heinen and vatrano both looking like they need a spot on the top 3 lines, belesky could become a very expensive 4th line option for us. and then debrusk might be around next year too.

all in all... we look like we have a lot of depth up front. once krejci gets healthy again we should have 2 very strong scoring lines that can play against anyone. and then our third line is above average I think as far as a third line goes... and our 4th line has seamed strong

its a good problem to have... having too many guys that deserve icetime.
 
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