Line Combos: 2016-17 Line Combinations

[BMC]

Pretty sure he's health6z thought I read something on him working w spoons on fo's

That's good to hear about both of them

 

[PlayMakers]

I would rather see Miller get a shot - he's got eye candy skills. But....Claude clearly based on his comments the last 24 hours is behind this Erhoff move. Chara also.

I'm just glad it's not Irwin type but a guy who has been good in the past

I can deal with Morrow but if Colin Miller is collateral damage I'm going to be unhappy

Anyone who has kids like us knows that we can take our kids shopping and be determined to not let them but crap but at the end of day they won out

Claude won out here and he's got Chara in his corner - that's probably why the PTO as its throwing an extra guy in mix

My guess

Chara-Erhoff

Krug- Miller

Liles- McQuaid

Carlo & O'Gara down till they see how this goes

C Miller 7th guy

Morrow waived and 8th guy

Lock

I don't know. I posted that exact same lineup a couple of days ago but the more I think about it the more I think a move is coming.

 

[PlayMakers]

One man's trash is another Claude's treasure

I wouldn't waste any energy or effort fretting over the young players.

You can count the number of kids Claude "ruined" on one finger. The middle one. As in none (or close to it). There's no laundry list of players who didn't get a shot here that went on to become good players elsewhere. The good players we gave up were good when he had them. And the players who people pined for but didn't play much, didn't amount to a hill of beans.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

One man's trash is another Claude's treasure

How come you aren't more optimistic on Carlo getting a shot out of the gate?


To me it seems like we have an opportunity to go Bourque-McClaren or Bourque-Gill with Z and Carlo. Carlo can skate, Z not as much, 2 huge dudes with super long poke checks, 1 HOFer 1 rookie.

NHL ice sheets are severely undersized playing Z with Carlo is almost unfair given the ground the 2 can cover.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I wouldn't waste any energy or effort fretting over the young players.

You can count the number of kids Claude "ruined" on one finger. The middle one. As in none (or close to it). There's no laundry list of players who didn't get a shot here that went on to become good players elsewhere. The good players we gave up were good when he had them. And the players who people pined for but didn't play much, didn't amount to a hill of beans.

 

[DKH]

I wouldn't waste any energy or effort fretting over the young players.

You can count the number of kids Claude "ruined" on one finger. The middle one. As in none (or close to it). There's no laundry list of players who didn't get a shot here that went on to become good players elsewhere. The good players we gave up were good when he had them. And the players who people pined for but didn't play much, didn't amount to a hill of beans.

Claude turned Johnny Boychuk into a $42/7 year player

I'm all in on a patchwork group as the kids develop- I'm sure by March a couple will be ready

What I don't want is to see that horrific rumored Trouba deal done. I know the Internet GMs will be complaining because Sweeney didn't give up Pasta and Krug but that's all they know since they first said 'mah mah'

Claude will be great for Carlo- no trophy kid no sobbing after practice because he got yelled at

Viva la Claude !!!!

 

[PB37]

I'm saying If Boston wants krug to play to his best capabilities he shouldn't be with a d partner that can't make up for his offensive risk taking. If krug can't take risks, he can't be as effecting in the offensive end. If he has to concern himself with being the last line of defense then he isn't going to be good. Charas not fast enough to make up for any of Krugs aggressiveness offensively, so krug would have to be more passive. If krug had a partner that could bail him out on a fast break, he could be more aggressive offensively which what he's very good at. Defensively mediocre, offensively excellent. Still equates to an above average defenseman. Krug doesn't have the reach to be effective in 2-1. He might have the speed to get back but he plays with poor gaps and let's too many free lanes to the net go. He's great for 5-9, but 5-9 does not make a great defensive dman no matter the effort level.

But that's not an indictment on him. He's being paid for his offense not defense. And with chara as a partner, he won't be able to contribute as much on the offensive side knowing charas footspeed can't make up for a potential bad pinch

I think it's easy to think that if a dman is labeled as an offensive dman, that he's a risk taker, which has the connotation that he cheats on his defensive assignments by being up the ice so much. I don't see that at all with Krug. He takes chances and jumps into the play, but nothing out of the ordinary or makes me think he's too aggressive.

 

[DKH]

How come you aren't more optimistic on Carlo getting a shot out of the gate?


To me it seems like we have an opportunity to go Bourque-McClaren or Bourque-Gill with Z and Carlo. Carlo can skate, Z not as much, 2 huge dudes with super long poke checks, 1 HOFer 1 rookie.

NHL ice sheets are severely undersized playing Z with Carlo is almost unfair given the ground the 2 can cover.

I love Carlo. I'd like to see him get a month or three of Kevin Dean.

I'm President of the Brandon Carlo Fan Club. That's why I don't want Trouba. McAvoy is off limits so that leaves Carlo.

Carlo will be great with Claude - he's mentally tough unlike Hamilton.

Good point on Z and Carlo- interesting

 

[Montecristo]

I think it's easy to think that if a dman is labeled as an offensive dman, that he's a risk taker, which has the connotation that he cheats on his defensive assignments by being up the ice so much. I don't see that at all with Krug. He takes chances and jumps into the play, but nothing out of the ordinary or makes me think he's too aggressive.

I think he plays passively because his d partners aren't capable of bailing him out. I'm not using offensive aggressiveness as a negative. Great offensive dmen take risks. I'm not using risks as a negative either. Risks pay off. Sometimes they don't. And when they don't you need a capable d partner to bail you out. Krug hasn't had that, and he's been forced to reign back on his offensive risk taking because of it. It's led to a drop in goal scoring. I think with a capable d partner, krug could really become a force offensively and let someone like Carlo take the brunt of the defensive fast breaks that will occasionally take place when krug tries to make something happen at the other end

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Claude turned Johnny Boychuk into a $42/7 year player

I'm all in on a patchwork group as the kids develop- I'm sure by March a couple will be ready

What I don't want is to see that horrific rumored Trouba deal done. I know the Internet GMs will be complaining because Sweeney didn't give up Pasta and Krug but that's all they know since they first said 'mah mah'

Claude will be great for Carlo- no trophy kid no sobbing after practice because he got yelled at

Viva la Claude !!!!

That would be a joke if we gave up Pasternak and Krug. Yuck move on.


I wonder if the Rangers can include Vesey in a trade for Trouba. That would be hilarious if he ended up in Winnipeg after snubbing Nashville/Buffalo/Boston quite publicly before playing a second of pro hockey to live in Manhattan with his buds Kreider and Hayes.

 

[PB37]

I think he plays passively because his d partners aren't capable of bailing him out. I'm not using offensive aggressiveness as a negative. Great offensive dmen take risks. I'm not using risks as a negative either. Risks pay off. Sometimes they don't. And when they don't you need a capable d partner to bail you out. Krug hasn't had that, and he's been forced to reign back on his offensive risk taking because of it. It's led to a drop in goal scoring. I think with a capable d partner, krug could really become a force offensively and let someone like Carlo take the brunt of the defensive fast breaks that will occasionally take place when krug tries to make something happen at the other end

I think his drop in goal scoring last year had more to do with his shoulder injury and simply " one of those years " than anything else. He's been paired with either KMiller or McQuaid for nearly 50 percent of his 5v5 shifts since breaking into the league.

 

[BruinDust]

I'm saying If Boston wants krug to play to his best capabilities he shouldn't be with a d partner that can't make up for his offensive risk taking. If krug can't take risks, he can't be as effecting in the offensive end. If he has to concern himself with being the last line of defense then he isn't going to be good. Charas not fast enough to make up for any of Krugs aggressiveness offensively, so krug would have to be more passive. If krug had a partner that could bail him out on a fast break, he could be more aggressive offensively which what he's very good at. Defensively mediocre, offensively excellent. Still equates to an above average defenseman. Krug doesn't have the reach to be effective in 2-1. He might have the speed to get back but he plays with poor gaps and let's too many free lanes to the net go. He's great for 5-9, but 5-9 does not make a great defensive dman no matter the effort level.

But that's not an indictment on him. He's being paid for his offense not defense. And with chara as a partner, he won't be able to contribute as much on the offensive side knowing charas footspeed can't make up for a potential bad pinch

So Chara can't cover for Krug when Torey takes risks and pinches, because despite having a great reach and good gap control, he is too slow.

And Krug can't cover for Chara when Zdeno takes risks and pinches because despite being a good skater, his reach is too short and his gap control isn't good enough.

I'm confused.

 

[Montecristo]

So Chara can't cover for Krug when Torey takes risks and pinches, because despite having a great reach and good gap control, he is too slow.

And Krug can't cover for Chara when Zdeno takes risks and pinches because despite being a good skater, his reach is too short and his gap control isn't good enough.

I'm confused.

Nope you're not confused. You have nailed it. They aren't good d partners for one another, and that's exactly why

 

[Blowfish]

Brad Marchand -Czarnik - Patrice Bergeron
Ryan Spooner - David Krejci - David Backes
Matt Beleskey - Kurlay - Pastrnak
Jake DeBrusk - Moore Tim Schaller/Noel Acciari


Chara-Erhoff

Krug- Miller

Liles- Carlo

McQuaid/Morrow

 

[Sheppy]

Whatever the lines are, have a guy who can toss hands on the 4th line. Give Randell an honest chance...

Some of these lineups are disgustingly soft.

 

[Estlin]

Whatever the lines are, have a guy who can toss hands on the 4th line. Give Randell an honest chance...

Some of these lineups are disgustingly soft.

Fighting in the NHL is going the way of the dodo.

 

[BruinDust]

Whatever the lines are, have a guy who can toss hands on the 4th line. Give Randell an honest chance...

Some of these lineups are disgustingly soft.

Who is he suppose to fight?

 

[Brewins]

Brad Marchand -Bergeron - Hayes
Ryan Spooner - David Krejci - David Backes
Matt Beleskey - Czarnik- Pastrnak
Heinen - Moore -Noel Acciari


Chara-Carlo/C.miller

Krug- Miller

Liles- Erhoff

McQuaid/Morrow

Move the young guys down dependant on time/situation.

Let bergy babysit hayes if he blows it, move up heinen/czarnik/pasta

Id like to see heinen-Backes-Pasta again too. That would be a nice 3rd line.

When vatrano is back adios to hayes/accari/moore dependant on play

 

[Beesfan]

I don't know. I posted that exact same lineup a couple of days ago but the more I think about it the more I think a move is coming.

No, I think you both had it right. Colin and Morrow will be the two healthy scratches. Danton Heinen and Randall (post-waivers) will go down to Providence. B's will not carry a 13th forward. This way we ice our best D group and retain our talent/depth.

If Carlo starts over Liles or Ehrhoff (which I find unlikely), then I guess they move C.Miller for anything they can get.

 

[ap3lovr]

No, I think you both had it right. Colin and Morrow will be the two healthy scratches. Danton Heinen and Randall (post-waivers) will go down to Providence. B's will not carry a 13th forward. This way we ice our best D group and retain our talent/depth.

If Carlo starts over Liles or Ehrhoff (which I find unlikely), then I guess they move C.Miller for anything they can get.

If Miller and Morrow aren't good enough to make the ice on opening night, I would not worry about exposing them to waivers. If they can't break into this d-core, no one is going to offer anything of value for them.

 

[Blowfish]

Brad Marchand -Bergeron - Hayes
Ryan Spooner - David Krejci - David Backes
Matt Beleskey - Czarnik- Pastrnak
Heinen - Moore -Noel Acciari


Chara-Carlo/C.miller

Krug- Miller

Liles- Erhoff

McQuaid/Morrow

Move the young guys down dependant on time/situation.

Let bergy babysit hayes if he blows it, move up heinen/czarnik/pasta

Id like to see heinen-Backes-Pasta again too. That would be a nice 3rd line.

When vatrano is back adios to hayes/accari/moore dependant on play

I have been harping on Hayes however should he make the opening line up I will vomit. He's really bad. He would clear waivers. Send him to Providence. AHL career.

 

[pierre gagnon*]

That is a god-awful defense. And, of course, Julien loves a washed-up defenseman in Ehroff. There is no way that Boston makes the playoffs with such an abysmal defense.

The bright side is with that dee the Bruins have a very good shot at the 1st overall

 

[Brewins]

I have been harping on Hayes however should he make the opening line up I will vomit. He's really bad. He would clear waivers. Send him to Providence. AHL career.

Hes a 30 pt player, not great but thats 3rd line on almost every nhl squad. Dont like the guy, fine. But hes NHL quality in some aspect, not like a 10-15 pt tweener like caron/matt fraser. Very complimentary and would be great depth on the 4th line or a stacked 3rd line.

 

[Blowfish]

Hes a 30 pt player, not great but thats 3rd line on almost every nhl squad. Dont like the guy, fine. But hes NHL quality in some aspect, not like a 10-15 pt tweener like caron/matt fraser. Very complimentary and would be great depth on the 4th line or a stacked 3rd line.

He had 30 last year and was benched? There is no way this guy ever reaches 30. Hope he's waived. Enough with this project.

 

[Brewins]

He had 30 last year and was benched? There is no way this guy ever reaches 30. Hope he's waived. Enough with this project.

29 pts last year, 35 the yr before. Benching isn't about total points, its about effort/play in previous games. He was playing like ass-got benched. I wouldve kept connolly at 1 mil and traded hayes personally but Connolly and yakupovs are projects. You know what you will get with hayes. About 15/15 maybe slightly more.