ckg927
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No doubt itll be a while before London gets it again.
It had BETTER be a long while. You think the rest of the OHL fanbase is ticked off now? It'll be a LOT worse if we have a rerun of this a few years down the road.
No doubt itll be a while before London gets it again.
Might as well prep yourself now..because they will host again within the next 10 years unless someone else builds a similar rink and has similar success. The Memorial Cup has become a business..it's not just a tournament for Junior Hockey anymore. If London has the strongest bid 9 years from now..they'll win the hosting rights then too.It had BETTER be a long while. You think the rest of the OHL fanbase is ticked off now? It'll be a LOT worse if we have a rerun of this a few years down the road.
Might as well prep yourself now..because they will host again within the next 10 years unless someone else builds a similar rink and has similar success. The Memorial Cup has become a business..it's not just a tournament for Junior Hockey anymore. If London has the strongest bid 9 years from now..they'll win the hosting rights then too.
Might as well prep yourself now..because they will host again within the next 10 years unless someone else builds a similar rink and has similar success. The Memorial Cup has become a business..it's not just a tournament for Junior Hockey anymore. If London has the strongest bid 9 years from now..they'll win the hosting rights then too.
Add in some of the intangibles such as Eastern conference team etc.
I'm surprised if London is such a hotbed for hockey, how come the AHL doesn't consider expansion into the market - Toronto, Hamilton just down the road. Grand Rapids the other way.
What if London finally gets caught for their blatant recruiting violations?
Neutral sites wont have the same financial success IMO. You need those season tickets
to scoop up the majority of seats.
Would 4000 Spits, 6500 Knights, 2500 erie or 5000+ Ktown fans all head up to Ottawa?
I'm surprised if London is such a hotbed for hockey, how come the AHL doesn't consider expansion into the market - Toronto, Hamilton just down the road. Grand Rapids the other way.
What if London finally gets caught for their blatant recruiting violations?
Neutral sites wont have the same financial success IMO. You need those season tickets
to scoop up the majority of seats.
Would 4000 Spits, 6500 Knights, 2500 erie or 5000+ Ktown fans all head up to Ottawa?
I'd love to know the reasoning for bidding in 2008. No team in any league has hosted twice in a row since 1986 (and only two teams in history have hosted back-to-back). Back then, it was a small tournament that didn't attract the big money and focus.
If the sole goal is money (rather than growing the league in all the centres) and it appears it is, then just do away with the bid process. Hold the tournament in Ottawa every single year, and allow the two OHL finalists to earn their entry. It's the biggest facility, the biggest OHL city (and other than Calgary the largest CHL city), easy airport access and a great national calibre city. Everybody would know where it is and prepare for it and away we go. Kind of like a US Bowl game.
I disagree. I don't see why people wouldn't travel to see their team (especially the Kingston example). I think you actually get people buying tickets and planning in advance because of the hope that their team will be there. I'm driving 5 hours each way for several Memorial Cup games this year to see your team as it turns out...
If Ottawa is too far away, then have it in Toronto every year. It seems to work for the Vanier Cup. I think you could sell out the semi-final/final certainly (with a lot more tickets than even London can sell) and probably the other weekend games in TO if people knew it was going to be an event there every year... You would also make sure that the two teams that "deserved" to be there would be there, in the Robertson Cup finalists and fans of those teams would have at least three weeks to make their arrangments to go to the event (which in the GTA is usually plenty of time to get accommodations etc.).
This bid process has become too offputting, especially since the home team gets in. They always find some reason the Colts won't get it (maybe the real reason is a long ago 18 year old Captain who wouldn't shake Branch's hand). When we had the state of the art rink it was hotels, when we had the hotels it was the rink, now that we have both they're trying to tell us it's the team (that's going to have the top prospect in next year's draft). :s
I disagree. I don't see why people wouldn't travel to see their team (especially the Kingston example). I think you actually get people buying tickets and planning in advance because of the hope that their team will be there. I'm driving 5 hours each way for several Memorial Cup games this year to see your team as it turns out...
If Ottawa is too far away, then have it in Toronto every year. It seems to work for the Vanier Cup. I think you could sell out the semi-final/final certainly (with a lot more tickets than even London can sell) and probably the other weekend games in TO if people knew it was going to be an event there every year... You would also make sure that the two teams that "deserved" to be there would be there, in the Robertson Cup finalists and fans of those teams would have at least three weeks to make their arrangments to go to the event (which in the GTA is usually plenty of time to get accommodations etc.).
This bid process has become too offputting, especially since the home team gets in. They always find some reason the Colts won't get it (maybe the real reason is a long ago 18 year old Captain who wouldn't shake Branch's hand). When we had the state of the art rink it was hotels, when we had the hotels it was the rink, now that we have both they're trying to tell us it's the team (that's going to have the top prospect in next year's draft). :s
If you take a look at the rosters objectively, there is little doubt that London is going to have the highest talent returning. Almost 20 current players. The Colts have a good core returning, but no one to replace O'Connor, Niederberger, Camara, Schiefele etc.
London probably looses Broadhurst and Griffith, but with guys like the Ruperts, Tierney and Elie playing depth roles and ready to move forward, they just are way to deep.
With Saskatoon struggling like they did, there is no doubt that quality of team is the most important factor right now, the committee doesn't want another situation like this. Its unfortunate for Barrie fans, but if they had the better returning core, they would have gotten the hosting gig.
Why does everybody think the host has to be strong? Isn't the Memorial Cup all about financial guarantees and financial success? There wasn't outrage when Rimouski and Brandon were hosts.
There was outrage, just not in Ontario. Im sure if you did calling around, youll find alot of QMJHL personal that wheren't happy about it. Just like
Shawinigan. Last year it probably should have gone to Saint John, but the committee went with the smaller host city. If they think a smaller town can host, they let them host, even if there is 4,500 seats.
The Host teams (for the most part) have always very competitive. You would always have the odd year where a team would struggle, but having a 'memorial cup' caliber team has always been part of the process (and a very important part).
Some years, depending on who bids, you have to take the best one of some not great choices. In a perfect world, London wouldn't have won this year, but looking at the rosters, they are the best bet.
The better win the Memorial Cup next year then or there will be large outrage.
The better win the Memorial Cup next year then or there will be large outrage.
It would be a tough sell for many. I could see people going for a game or two thou. I dont think youd get the same interest in a nuetral site but thats just me. Ive been wrong before.
I dont have an intimate knowledge of Barries bids and why theyve fallen short. Its gotta be frustrating for Colts fans, no doubt. The reasons youve given seem ever changing but IMO realistic. In the sense that every 3rd year they bid and things do change and sometimes quickly. One could say theyre given a different excuse every time but the other side is that come up short in different criteria each bid. They just gotta find a way to put it all together and give the league no choice. They are a successful franchise and hopefully get rewarded at some point.
If you take a look at the rosters objectively, there is little doubt that London is going to have the highest talent returning. Almost 20 current players. The Colts have a good core returning, but no one to replace O'Connor, Niederberger, Camara, Schiefele etc.
London probably looses Broadhurst and Griffith, but with guys like the Ruperts, Tierney and Elie playing depth roles and ready to move forward, they just are way to deep.
With Saskatoon struggling like they did, there is no doubt that quality of team is the most important factor right now, the committee doesn't want another situation like this.
Its unfortunate for Barrie fans, but if they had the better returning core, they would have gotten the hosting gig.
Saskatoon ran into a hot goalie? They scored what, four goals all series? A really good team would be able to get around that obstacle, especially against the #7 seed.