2014 Kings vs. 2024 Panthers

[dgibb10]

No dude the 2014 Bruins were the best in the league that year Ignore that they lost in the second round. I can’t believe @dgibb10 actually said that.

The 3 game 7’s isn’t a positive or negative to me really. Just happenstance. They went through murderer’s row in the Pacific, then had the unofficial Stanley Cup matchup against the Hawks, then had to play the best Rangers team Lundqvist was a part of.

They lost in 7 to a team that goalied them. It happens.

How can you say SJS and Anaheim were better than boston when they lost in round 1 and 2 as well as being significantly worse in the regular season.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Kopitar a notch better than Barkov? I see it the other way around.

I think it's definitely debatable. Different eras. But I do think a whole lot of people around here have already forgotten prime Kopitar.

Alright and then when you go to Reinhart and Matthew Tkachuk who do the kings have to match there? Jeff Carter or Justin Williams???? Mike Richards?? Gaborik?? lmao

I mean, yes?

a two-way 40 goal scoring C that the Hawks couldn't contain or the Conn Smythe winning Mr. Game 7 or the legendary intangibles guy or the deadline pickup who found instant chemistry with Kopitar and scored 14 playoff goals?

DId you think that was an insult? Or were you just not watching hockey yet in 2014?

yeah I think i'll take Carter with Reinhart and while Tkachuk is unique so is Justin Williams, Mike Richards.

 

[dgibb10]

I think it's definitely debatable. Different eras. But I do think a whole lot of people around here have already forgotten prime Kopitar.




I mean, yes?

a two-way 40 goal scoring C that the Hawks couldn't contain or the Conn Smythe winning Mr. Game 7 or the legendary intangibles guy or the deadline pickup who found instant chemistry with Kopitar and scored 14 playoff goals?

DId you think that was an insult? Or were you just not watching hockey yet in 2014?

yeah I think i'll take Carter with Reinhart and while Tkachuk is unique so is Justin Williams, Mike Richards.

Lmao Carter Richards and Williams COMBINED that season for 47 goals. Reinhart had 57 on his own.

The 23-24 florida team was better in the regular season and better in the playoffs. Nostalgia blinds you.

 

[Sol]

2014 Kings had the edge in star power undoubtedly.

kings in 6

 

[Section88]

Thats Kings team was so resilient, just never went away. Kings in 7 since they loved finishing series in 7 games that year.

 

[Matty Sundin]

Florida probably loses to a lot of Stanley cup past winners.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Lmao Carter Richards and Williams COMBINED that season for 47 goals. Reinhart had 57 on his own.

The 23-24 florida team was better in the regular season and better in the playoffs. Nostalgia blinds you.

I’d bet you didn’t watch more than a period of that playoff run if this is the conclusion you’re coming to.

You can’t just look at the stat sheet. It’s also why you’d incorrectly think the 2013-14 Bruins were Cup contenders that year.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Lmao Carter Richards and Williams COMBINED that season for 47 goals. Reinhart had 57 on his own.

The 23-24 florida team was better in the regular season and better in the playoffs. Nostalgia blinds you.

Buddy

2014 playoffs
Jeff Carter: 10g, 25p, +5 in 26 games

2024 playoffs
Reinhart: 10g, 16p, -2 in 24 games

And that's BEFORE you add Justin Williams' Conn Smythe performance

Thread title is "result of a series" not "who had the more impressive regular season in those specific years"

So yep, someone is certainly blind, but it aint me

 

[Perfect_Drug]

That Kings run seemed like one of the most dominant cup wins I witnessed in my life.

Mind you it was 2014 reffing.


If it was 2024 reffing Panthers might be able to take one more game.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

It's just two different flavors of shit the Kings had to eat, really. They won in a dominant fashion and got clowned repeatedly for it until they won again.

after 2012--lol lucky team, cream puff brackets
2013--see they were a fluke, lost in WCF to Hawks who were the Champ
2014--3 games 7s? lucky team

The Kings were the only team stopping the hawks from winning 3 or 4 in a row so they should be seen in a more positive light than the f***in pinata they get treated like on this forum for simply not being a president's trophy winner and playing grind-you-to-paste hockey instead of harlem globetrotters offense

I always think it's funny when a team runs their way through the playoffs and instead of everyone recognizing the team for dominance (like the Kings), there's a select few that say they had easy competition. 2012 Kings were dominant!

 

[I am not exposed]

Panthers fan saying Kings in 6 or 7.

 

[jonlin]

I think it's definitely debatable. Different eras. But I do think a whole lot of people around here have already forgotten prime Kopitar.

Barkov until age 29

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Kopitar until age 29

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Kopitar also had a better team around him to start his career. Barkov has had a decent/good team around him for the last 4-5yrs now.

 

[dgibb10]

I’d bet you didn’t watch more than a period of that playoff run if this is the conclusion you’re coming to.

You can’t just look at the stat sheet. It’s also why you’d incorrectly think the 2013-14 Bruins were Cup contenders that year.

The Bruins were the best team by far in the regular season who dominated round 1 and then got goalied in 7 games by a guy who, in terms of peak level, is arguably the best goalie the NHL has seen in like 15 years.

You can't say they weren't contenders while saying the Sharks and Ducks were.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Kings go up 3-0, win in 6.

 

[dgibb10]

Buddy

2014 playoffs
Jeff Carter: 10g, 25p, +5 in 26 games

2024 playoffs
Reinhart: 10g, 16p, -2 in 24 games

And that's BEFORE you add Justin Williams' Conn Smythe performance

Thread title is "result of a series" not "who had the more impressive regular season in those specific years"

So yep, someone is certainly blind, but it aint me

The panthers were more impressive in the playoffs too.

They dominated games and shot share. They ran into BOTH of the best goalies in hockey playing at their peak level and won because they were dominating play just that much. Then they went and beat the best player in hockey too

Niemi doesn't shit the bed and we're talking about a team that goes home in 4 games of round 1.

 

[Regal]

Barkov until age 29

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Kopitar until age 29

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Kopitar also had a better team around him to start his career. Barkov has had a decent/good team around him for the last 4-5yrs now.

Can’t really compare point totals between the two eras when scoring has exploded recently and the Selke contention has been pretty weak lately

 

[jonlin]

Can’t really compare point totals between the two eras when scoring has exploded recently and the Selke contention has been pretty weak lately

Ooh really the selke competition has been weak? Are there less players nowadays, even there are more teams?

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

The panthers were more impressive in the playoffs too.

They dominated games and shot share. They ran into BOTH of the best goalies in hockey playing at their peak level and won because they were dominating play just that much. Then they went and beat the best player in hockey too

Niemi doesn't shit the bed and we're talking about a team that goes home in 4 games of round 1.

If the Kings are losing that means Quick shit the bed and there's no way in hell he is losing that matchup with the Kings roster they had regardless of Niemi went god mode.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The panthers were more impressive in the playoffs too.

They dominated games and shot share. They ran into BOTH of the best goalies in hockey playing at their peak level and won because they were dominating play just that much. Then they went and beat the best player in hockey too

Niemi doesn't shit the bed and we're talking about a team that goes home in 4 games of round 1.

I didn’t know goalposts could screech this loudly

Champs aren’t decided on corsi Edit: though hilariously the 2014 Kings were BARELY behind the 2024 Panthers in shot share AND had a better GF% so again .... you're easily fact checked out of your off-the-cuff remarks

But it’s fun watching you shift uncomfortably from lane to lane

That Kings run seemed like one of the most dominant cup wins I witnessed in my life.

Mind you it was 2014 reffing.


If it was 2024 reffing Panthers might be able to take one more game.

I dunno man, one thing I admired about this panthers team was the didn’t give a shit about the reffing and were pretty likely to run right thru a wall regardless

I would loved to have seen tkachuk face ri face with regehr and Mitchell and Greene, that no fly zone near the Kings net would have been a circus, not to mention Quick getting ready to snap at any moment

I imagine it would be like some of those Kings/Blues series in 2012 and 2013, those were some of the most physical series I’ve ever seen and 2013splayed a large part in why the Kings were dead by the WCF

 

[Regal]

Ooh really the selke competition has been weak? Are there less players nowadays, even there are more teams?

I mean who is another preeminent two-way center besides Barkov now that Bergeron is retired? There’s a lot more offensive oriented players at the top of lineuo right now. Bergeron was strong competition, but as soon as he retired, Barkov won his second. It hasn’t been the same recently as the 2010s when Toews, Bergeron, Kopitar were at the top and then also guys like Kesler.

 

[x Tame Impala]

The Bruins were the best team by far in the regular season who dominated round 1 and then got goalied in 7 games by a guy who, in terms of peak level, is arguably the best goalie the NHL has seen in like 15 years.

You can't say they weren't contenders while saying the Sharks and Ducks were.

I didn't say the Sharks and Ducks were contenders. FWIW the Ducks did only have 1 less point than the Bruins that year and the Sharks were 5 points away, 2nd in the Pacific. Regardless, the regular season doesn't automatically determine who the best teams are.

Again the problem with overvaluing the President's Trophy like this board is torn on. The Hawks and Kings were 5th and 6th in the West that year and yet most would agree the real stanley cup final took place in the WCF in 2014.

The Bruins had a great regular season and lost to a bottom 10 offensive team in the Habs because they couldn't get past Carey Price. The Kings had to beat an statistically nearly identical team in the SCF with Lundqvist and the Kings.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Florida had holes but they were good enough to win SC. It's not that surprising when Barkov is the only superstar on that team.

 

[dgibb10]

I didn't say the Sharks and Ducks were contenders. FWIW the Ducks did only have 1 less point than the Bruins that year and the Sharks were 5 points away, 2nd in the Pacific. Regardless, the regular season doesn't automatically determine who the best teams are.

Again the problem with overvaluing the President's Trophy like this board is torn on. The Hawks and Kings were 5th and 6th in the West that year and yet most would agree the real stanley cup final took place in the WCF in 2014.

The Bruins had a great regular season and lost to a bottom 10 offensive team in the Habs because they couldn't get past Carey Price. The Kings had to beat an statistically nearly identical team in the SCF with Lundqvist and the Kings.

The reason I brought up the bruins was in response to the claim that "LAK beat the 3 best teams in the league on route to the cup".

If the Kings are losing that means Quick shit the bed and there's no way in hell he is losing that matchup with the Kings roster they had regardless of Niemi went god mode.

If Niemi didn't have an atrocious game 4 that series is over in 4 games and we never hear a word about that 2014 kings team.

 

[x Tame Impala]

The reason I brought up the bruins was in response to the claim that "LAK beat the 3 best teams in the league on route to the cup".


If Niemi didn't have an atrocious game 4 that series is over in 4 games and we never hear a word about that 2014 kings team.

In 2012 they beat the #1, 2, and 3 seeds in the West as the #8 seed. In 2014 they beat the #4 seeded Sharks, the 2nd best regular season team Ducks who were 1pt behind the Bruins and had better offense that season than Bruins as well, and then the true second best team in the league the Chicago Blackhawks en route to the Cup.

I'm not sure who you think were the best teams in the league back in 2014 but if you're just sorting by points you're missing the big picture. It's not like the 2014 Avs or Blues were really 2 of the top 4 teams in the league that season.

 

[dgibb10]

In 2012 they beat the #1, 2, and 3 seeds in the West as the #8 seed. In 2014 they beat the #4 seeded Sharks, the 2nd best regular season team Ducks who were 1pt behind the Bruins and had better offense that season than Bruins as well, and then the true second best team in the league the Chicago Blackhawks en route to the Cup.

I'm not sure who you think were the best teams in the league back in 2014 but if you're just sorting by points you're missing the big picture. It's not like the 2014 Avs or Blues were really 2 of the top 4 teams in the league that season.

I'd say the Kings, Blackhawks and Bruins.

If you want to exclude the kings I'd say throw Anaheim in there.