2014 CBJ Offseason Thread

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skimp

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Barring a major shakeup:

_____-Johansen-Horton
Jenner-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Foligno-Anisimov-Umberger
Calvert-Letestu-Skille
DMac (if he comes cheap)
Boll

Johnson-Tyutin
Murray-Wiz
Prout-Savard
Erixon

Bob
Who cares
 

IHeartZherdev*

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I think Devin Setoguchi could be a nice, cheap, addition on a short term deal. He's really fallen off playing for the Jets so would be a low-risk move that could provide some offensive reward.
 

spintheblackcircle

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Bjorkstrand-RyJo-Jenner would be an amazing line. I know most think he wouldn't be ready next year, but he has nothing left to do in the WHL and isn't eligible for the AHL. IF he shows well in camp, the Jackets have 10 games where they can see if he really is ready. I think he can be, and I think that would be such a dangerous 1st line.

(2015-2016)
Bjorkstrand-RyJo-Jenner
Zaar-Wennberg-Horton
Rychel-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Foligno-Letetsu-Calvert
 

IHeartZherdev*

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Bjorkstrand-RyJo-Jenner would be an amazing line. I know most think he wouldn't be ready next year, but he has nothing left to do in the WHL and isn't eligible for the AHL. IF he shows well in camp, the Jackets have 10 games where they can see if he really is ready. I think he can be, and I think that would be such a dangerous 1st line.

(2015-2016)
Bjorkstrand-RyJo-Jenner
Zaar-Wennberg-Horton
Rychel-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Foligno-Letetsu-Calvert

Bjorkstrand is 19. Zaar is 20. Rychel is 19. None have even played an AHL game.

Even for 2015-2016 we shouldn't expect anything more from them than limited playing time and maybe some flashing of their future upside.

I can't think of any worse form of player development then throwing three prospects into NHL lineup and expecting them to be play major minutes and force them into huge roles they won't be ready for. Horrible for the vets, coachs, and of course the players themselves. If anything these guys should be in the AHL in 2015 and being called up when injuries happen.

Look at Johansen's first year, or guys like Granlund from the Wild or Tarasenko from the Blues. Or even Stamkos. It often takes these at least a year or so of limited minutes/scratches while they get used to the game and grow into their man-bodies. Which is why you don't force them or pencil them in, you make a guy like this the extra forward so he doesn't have to be in there night-in-night out and the team isn't relying on THREE non-NHL players.

It's pure fantasy to act like just because these are young touted prospects who've had success at lower levels that we can just throw them into the fire and expect them to be top line NHL successes. If any prospect is on the team next year I would expect it to be Dano, since he has played at the NHL level, has the man-body, and can fit well into a limited or checking line role.

The "every one of our prospects is going to develop perfectly and at the same time" line of thinking just makes no sense. First of all, no team's entire group of prospects always works out completely, and all develop at their own pace, not all magically become ready at the beginning of a season. This is the kind of thinking that had people saying "We're set because we finally have a #1 center for the next 10 years in Derick Brassard!"
 
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blahblah

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Bjorkstrand-RyJo-Jenner would be an amazing line. I know most think he wouldn't be ready next year, but he has nothing left to do in the WHL and isn't eligible for the AHL. IF he shows well in camp, the Jackets have 10 games where they can see if he really is ready.

We showed with Jenner we are willing to give them ice time if they are ready. I wouldn't discount it.
 

spintheblackcircle

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Look at Johansen's first year, or guys like Granlund from the Wild or Tarasenko from the Blues. Or even Stamkos. It often takes these at least a year or so of limited minutes/scratches while they get used to the game and grow into their man-bodies. Which is why you don't force them or pencil them in, you make a guy like this the extra forward so he doesn't have to be in there night-in-night out and the team isn't relying on THREE non-NHL players.

Enjoy Jared Boll.

Colorado's top 4 scorers, all under 22 when the season started. Wild have Coyle, Granlund and Niederreiter under 21 when the season started. Sharks have Nieto and Hertl under 20. Blues have a number that were under 22 when they came up....I could go on....
 

cbjgirl

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about last summer.

spintheblackcircle

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Can still be bought out. There's better players that can help this team more.

If the choice is RJ at $4.6 for 3 more years or Boll for $1.7 for 3 years, it ain't even a choice. You buy out RJ and hope a team needs some muscle and will give up a 7th rounder for Boll.
 

IHeartZherdev*

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Enjoy Jared Boll.

I don't enjoy Jared Boll and have been pretty outspoken about that.

It's a lot easier to ease in one or two guys like Neito or Coyle when you have big minute, relied upon guys like Koivu, Parise, Pominville, Thorton, Pavelski, Marleau, etc. You don't just say - "hey this guy was awesome in juniors, he'd be great on a top line with Ryan Johanseon over an 82 game NHL season right away."
 

spintheblackcircle

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Wenneberg is committed to Sweden next year. Dano will not be ready, either will Rychel. Next year, I only have Bjorkstrand making the jump. Just one guy.
 

IHeartZherdev*

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Wenneberg is committed to Sweden next year. Dano will not be ready, either will Rychel. Next year, I only have Bjorkstrand making the jump. Just one guy.

Either way, it's not fair to the guys in the room or the fans to keep the team status quo and just hope that 21-22 year olds put them over the hump in 2-3 years.

Work needs to be done on the top 6 this offseason.

The team barely made the playoffs and lost in the first round. The Capitals, Hurricanes, and other teams will be improving - the CBJ can't just keep the roster as it is aside from calling up prospects and switching it 3rd and 4th liners and depth defensemen
 
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IHeartZherdev*

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He can't be given a compliance buyout and given the cap hits, it's better to just bury him in the minors than give him a regular buyout.

I'm sure Brian Burke would love to give up a draft pick for Jared Boll. :nod:
 

EspenK

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Bjorkstrand-RyJo-Jenner would be an amazing line. I know most think he wouldn't be ready next year, but he has nothing left to do in the WHL and isn't eligible for the AHL. IF he shows well in camp, the Jackets have 10 games where they can see if he really is ready. I think he can be, and I think that would be such a dangerous 1st line.

(2015-2016)
Bjorkstrand-RyJo-Jenner
Zaar-Wennberg-Horton
Rychel-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Foligno-Letetsu-Calvert

Move that line-up to next year and we can pencil in a good shot at Connor MacDavid.
 

DarkandStormy

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Can still be bought out. There's better players that can help this team more.

Because management, you know...the ones that signed him to that deal, are just suddenly going to change their minds months after finishing that deal?

It would be a move worthy of Maclean though.
 

Samkow

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Letting go of too many veterans would be a huge mistake. Remember 2009? We're in a better position than we were that summer but still, it's not like we're a veteran team.

If MacKenzie has reasonable demands, don't let him leave. I'd extend the same courtesy to Comeau.
 
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