2013 WJC Thread - USA! USA! USA!

[Dipsy Doodle]

Can't wait to hear Cherry's excuse to why Canada blew this one.

You know he won't criticize Murphy, haha.

Seriously though, Canada was flat-footed and 'Murica put 'em deep in a hole early, Subban and the whole defense outside Harrington was shaky, Gibson was terrific, and the odd time our forwards did have Gibson beat, they hit posts.

US deserved to win. Congrats!

 

[Sideline]

You know he won't criticize Murphy, haha.

Seriously though, Canada was flat-footed and 'Murica put 'em deep in a hole early, Subban and the whole defense outside Harrington was shaky, Gibson was terrific, and the odd time our forwards did have Gibson beat, they hit posts.

US deserved to win. Congrats!

I thought Harrington had a weak 1st period, but sadly he was still Canada's best d.

On a semi related note: Ryan Murphy is terrible. How is he considered a top prospect?

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I thought Harrington had a weak 1st period, but sadly he was still Canada's best d.

On a semi related note: Ryan Murphy is terrible. How is he considered a top prospect?

I thought he was solid all the way through. On the scramble play on the 1st goal, he got clipped behind the knee by McCabe and was playing catch-up for the rest of the play. But agree to disagree, he was the best d-man for Canada either way.

Murphy...I don't know what to say. He sucked like he's sucked all tourney long, but Spott kept force-feeding his golden boy icetime. He can rush the puck and has a bomb of a shot, but he's such a liability out there, and he doesn't manage the puck well when he does have it, even offensively.

Another head-scratcher among many from Spott, like the choice of Subban over Binnington, splitting up MacKinnon/Drouin, etc.

PS - I'm equally unimpressed with Hamilton. He didn't do anything noteworthy all tourney long.

 

[Sideline]

I thought he was solid all the way through. On the scramble play on the 1st goal, he got clipped behind the knee by McCabe and was playing catch-up for the rest of the play. But agree to disagree, he was the best d-man for Canada either way.

Murphy...I don't know what to say. He sucked like he's sucked all tourney long, but Spott kept force-feeding his golden boy icetime. He can rush the puck and has a bomb of a shot, but he's such a liability out there, and he doesn't manage the puck well when he does have it, even offensively.

Another head-scratcher among many from Spott, like the choice of Subban over Binnington, splitting up MacKinnon/Drouin, etc.

PS - I'm equally unimpressed with Hamilton. He didn't do anything noteworthy all tourney long.

The rage I feel on this one... I watch a fair bit of Mooseheads hockey. Those two cycle the puck like Sedin and Sedin. They just *know* without looking where the other guy is and where to put the puck so they other guy can make a play.

 

[Jacob]

I was rooting for Canada.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

The rage I feel on this one... I watch a fair bit of Mooseheads hockey. Those two cycle the puck like Sedin and Sedin. They just *know* without looking where the other guy is and where to put the puck so they other guy can make a play.

In a short tournament, you'd think he'd have gone with the out-of-the-box chemistry, especially since that 2nd line never did find its groove. But again, common sense isn't the first thing that comes to mind when analyzing Spott's decisions.

 

[BHD]

Congrats to the U.S and those supporting them. Guess I should start bandwagoning Sweden now.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Is Prophet of Glennie still insisting he shouldn't be on the team?

This is the only thing making me feel better right now:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1315223

 

[Lim Ran]

Did the Penguins actually pass on Forsberg?

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Did the Penguins actually pass on Forsberg?

I know.

 

[Antaris]

Forsberg is a beast. Freaking moronic decision not to pick him.


He's everywhere, on the offense he's right there, on the back check he's there and does a great job.

 

[Lim Ran]

I was sitting there during the draft going "Forsberg. FORSBERG. PICK FORSBERG."

They just discussed how he fell to #11 and how he's actually clearly a Top 5 talent on TSN.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Forsberg is a beast. Freaking moronic decision not to pick him.


He's everywhere, on the offense he's right there, on the back check he's there and does a great job.

Big, strong, skilled, determined, RH shot winger with leadership...why would we want one of those?

Better let him fall to a hated rival.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Big, strong, skilled, determined, RH shot winger with leadership...why would we want one of those?

Better let him fall to a hated rival.

or either of the teams between us and the rival who apparently didn't want him at those spots either

ps: can we not have this argument take over another thread?

 

[Antaris]

Big, strong, skilled, determined, RH shot winger with leadership...why would we want one of those?

Better let him fall to a hated rival.

Edit: Yes you're absolutley right Ogre. It's just easy giving in to these feelings.

 

[Ogrezilla]

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

or either of the teams between us and the rival who apparently didn't want him at those spots either

Nobody said the Penguins were the only team wrong to pass on Grigorenko and Forsberg.

I think that in a thread about the WJCs, talking about two of the prominent players on the teams currently playing is about as topical as it gets. Ignoring impact players just seems like sticking our collective heads in the sand.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Nobody said the Penguins were the only team wrong to pass on Grigorenko and Forsberg.

I think that in a thread about the WJCs, talking about two of the prominent players on the teams currently playing is about as topical as it gets.

fair enough I guess. I just feel like this conversation has played out so many times already. I really don't want it to turn into a draft analysis thread instead of a WJC thread.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

fair enough I guess. I just feel like this conversation has played out so many times already. I really don't want it to turn into a draft analysis thread instead of a WJC thread.

All interested parties should watch the game and judge for themselves.

 

[Ogrezilla]

by all means, talk about how good he's playing. That's very topical. But every comment about Forsberg doesn't need to lead to a discussion about how we should have drafted him. In this case, it started with discussion about how we should have drafted him before even mentioning his actual play.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

by all means, talk about how good he's playing. That's very topical. But every comment about Forsberg doesn't need to lead to a discussion about how we should have drafted him. In this case, it started with discussion about how we should have drafted him before even mentioning his actual play.

Only natural to see it go in that direction when we're half a season removed from the draft, there's no NHL, we're spitballing about skilled forward options for the big club, and two of them are playing great hockey in the most widely watched hockey event at the moment.

The only reason for avoiding the argument is to avoid making valid critiques that might hurt some sensibilities, IMHO.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Grigs and Kucherov sure have great chemistry. Fun to watch.

 

[ColePens]

I won't lie... I woke up and it was 4-0 USA and I was freakin' pumped up. I DVRed the game to watch later but couldn't stay away from the score. It looked like an amazingly fast pace from the Americans. Can't wait to check it out.

 

[redsono93]

Man I wish we could trade with TB for Kucherov the kid is so poised and has a great release. Do you think the Russian factor will ever go away of teams shying away from drafting them? It really is such a shame that it happens.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Man I wish we could trade with TB for Kucherov the kid is so poised and has a great release. Do you think the Russian factor will ever go away of teams shying away from drafting them? It really is such a shame that it happens.

I don't think we'd get him without dealing one of our top d prospects, unfortunately.

Grigorenko ties it up.