2013 New Jersey Devils (Team News, Player Discussion - Part II)

[TheUnseenHand]

Tallinder is like an upgraded Mike Mottau IMO. There are times he makes very good plays but then will turn around and throw a WTF?!? play in there.

 

[Saugus]

Yeah he is obviously a slow adapter to system's, but when he is set he can be a very good Dman. His skating ability and shot can be very dangerous.

Also, say what you like about his luck for partners, but he is a pretty good mentor for young defencemen. He did well with Myers, he did well with Fayne, and he did well with Larsson in the short time they were paired together.

 

[Billdo]

Got the quiz with 50 seconds left, of all people I almost forgot Zajac.

 

[Jack Griffin]

Tallinder's biggest issue is that he got hurt before the Devils turned the corner last season. Everyone only remembers those first two months when the whole team was struggling.

Remember the "Play Moose over Marty" threads?

Also no one seems to remember Tallinder being our best defensemen in 10-11 season after Lemaire took over. He was playing over 20 minutes every night and a ton on the PK.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

I like that list made up of potential acquisitions out of the West. Ryder and Clutterbuck definitely interest me.

As for MPS, meh. I just don't see Edmonton selling low on him.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

That was awesome, and made me think screw it...full optimism train. There is still a ton of heart on this team, and guys hungry to either get their first taste or last. Seeing Marty celebrate like that...the old man HAS to get one more shot!!!

It is a short season...ANYTHING can happen. Put the pieces together Lou!!!!

Remember in 94 we got pretty far but ended bitterly and then in a work stoppage shortened season in 95 we took it all...

 

[The Joker]

Remember in 94 we got pretty far but ended bitterly and then in a work stoppage shortened season in 95 we took it all...

We should have lost to the Ranges then

 

[Semak]

Remember in 94 we got pretty far but ended bitterly and then in a work stoppage shortened season in 95 we took it all...

You can stay...

We should have lost to the Ranges then

...and you are vanished to the land of Nod.

 

[Mgd31]

Todd Cordell‏@ToddCordell

The #NJDevils will use Zajac and Kovalchuk on the top line and have Henrique and Elias form 2/3 of line 2 as per @Real_ESPNLeBrun.

 

[tycobb]

Todd Cordell‏@ToddCordell

The #NJDevils will use Zajac and Kovalchuk on the top line and have Henrique and Elias form 2/3 of line 2 as per @Real_ESPNLeBrun.

Wasn't that obvious? I have posted before it won't be hard to replace those goals from Parise. A replacement player (Butler) plus Zajac healthy gets us all of Parise's goals.

 

[dougiebrown]

The article that Cordell is referring to by Lebrun:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/21370/bolts-managing-expectations-on-lindback

 

[AfroThunder396]

Also, say what you like about his luck for partners, but he is a pretty good mentor for young defencemen. He did well with Myers, he did well with Fayne, and he did well with Larsson in the short time they were paired together.

To be honest, I think it's the other way around. The young defensemen are pretty good mentors for Henrik Tallinder. Tyler Myers is a 6'7" physical freak that put up 48 points in the NHL as a 19 year old, and we all know how outstanding Fayne is.

The difference is that both of those defensemen have continued having success without Tallinder (Myers to a lesser degree, though he's had injury problems recently), while Tallinder hasn't had any success even when he was still paired with Fayne early in 2012.

 

[Nick0930]

Offer sheet Subban. Can't have too many defensemen!

 

[tycobb]

To be honest, I think it's the other way around. The young defensemen are pretty good mentors for Henrik Tallinder. Tyler Myers is a 6'7" physical freak that put up 48 points in the NHL as a 19 year old, and we all know how outstanding Fayne is.

The difference is that both of those defensemen have continued having success without Tallinder (Myers to a lesser degree, though he's had injury problems recently), while Tallinder hasn't had any success even when he was still paired with Fayne early in 2012.

The Devils viewed Tallinder as our best defensemen. He doesn't have potential to be great like Fayne or Larsson, but he is solid in all areas. People are way too hard on him.

 

[engy]

The Devils viewed Tallinder as our best defensemen. He doesn't have potential to be great like Fayne or Larsson, but he is solid in all areas. People are way too hard on him.

Fayne and great ... Does not compute...

 

[Wingman77]

The last time Kovy stepped onto the Rock's ice, he broke the Prince of Whales Trophy

 

[engy]

Double post

 

[tycobb]

Fayne and great ... Does not compute...

Age = 25

6'3'' - 215lbs

2nd season in the NHL and out of our team's defense had the highest Crosi Rel QoC. I think he can be a great defender for our team. BTW for me "great" doesn't equal Norris trophy candidate.

 

[Nick0930]

 

[Getzo5]

Why even responding? The guy is either trolling or doesn`t know much about Fayne, about the qualities he brings or the value of such player to any organization.

The last time Kovy stepped onto the Rock's ice, he broke the Prince of Whales Trophy

Dat face.

That`s what happens when you grab it with your gloves on. haha

 

[New Jersey Devils]

Amazing. Love how they captured Marty's reaction.

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

Wasn't that obvious? I have posted before it won't be hard to replace those goals from Parise. A replacement player (Butler) plus Zajac healthy gets us all of Parise's goals.

You can't try to account for one player's goals with two players.

When Zajac was out, his ice time was filled by other players, who also scored goals. Those need to be factored into the discussion.

If anything, the way to view Butler is simply a replacement for Sykora.

 

[tycobb]

You can't try to account for one player's goals with two players.

When Zajac was out, his ice time was filled by other players, who also scored goals. Those need to be factored into the discussion.

If anything, the way to view Butler is simply a replacement for Sykora.

You are correct. I posted this before, but I don't think it will be hard to get to last years offensive production.

We scored 149 5 v 5 Goals last year. That would equal 87 goals over a 48 game season.

Which I don't think will be hard to beat even losing all the forwards we did over the off-season.

Projected lines

Butler - Zajac - Kovy = (Butler 10 + Zajac 15 + Kovy 25) = 50 Goals
Elias - Henrique - Teddy = (Elias 15 + Henrique 15 + Teddy 10) = 40 Goals
Zubrus - Josefson - Clarkson = (Zubrus 10 + Josefson 5 + Clarkson 15) = 30 Goals
Carter - Gionta - Beriner = (Carter 5 + Gionta 5 + Bernier 5) = 15 Goals

Project Forward goals = 135 Goals over 82 games for 5v5

Our defense would need to get 14 goals to match last years projects which shouldn't be hard.

Fayne - Greene = (5)
Larsson - Tallinder = (5)
Zidlicky - Salvador - Volchenkov= (4)

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

You are correct. I posted this before, but I don't think it will be hard to get to last years offensive production.

We scored 149 5 v 5 Goals last year. That would equal 87 goals over a 48 game season.

Which I don't think will be hard to beat even losing all the forwards we did over the off-season.

Projected lines

Butler - Zajac - Kovy = (Butler 10 + Zajac 15 + Kovy 25) = 50 Goals
Elias - Henrique - Teddy = (Elias 15 + Henrique 15 + Teddy 10) = 40 Goals
Zubrus - Josefson - Clarkson = (Zubrus 10 + Josefson 5 + Clarkson 15) = 30 Goals
Carter - Gionta - Beriner = (Carter 5 + Gionta 5 + Bernier 5) = 15 Goals

Project Forward goals = 135 Goals over 82 games for 5v5

Our defense would need to get 14 goals to match last years projects which shouldn't be hard.

Fayne - Greene = (5)
Larsson - Tallinder = (5)
Zidlicky - Salvador - Volchenkov= (4)

I think 5 goals from each of the fourth liners is a bit of a reach, but all in all those projections look reasonable.

I suspect we'll score half the PK goals next year. Hopefully our PP can pick up the slack.

 

[Nick0930]

Plus you could make up for Parise's goals by, you know, not letting in as many. Especially shorthanded ones.