Prospect Info: 2013-2014 Rangers Prospects Thread *Part II* (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 1/31)

[Raspewtin]

Everything about playing style aside this honestly is what's cool about getting more black players into the league, so you have other young black players who identify with them and try to model their game after them, etc.

Except that's not the case here, not that I'm aware of at least.

He really does model his game after Kane. If he fights and hits more, then he's a smaller clone of Kane.

I understand that physicality is a big part of a player's game, and despite his moderate physicality, Duclair is best compared to Kane.

 

[Raspewtin]

I go to check the score of the Kootenay - Calgary game, and Calgary's goalie was credited with a goal.

Don't know how that happened but, okay.

Anyway, Calgary up 2-0. Kinda to be expected, one of the top teams in the league.

Tambellini has no points so far.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Yeah, when Thomas was done in the OHL I stopped with that league for good.

He's got a hell of a shot, I hope he succeeds, even if he plays for the Habs .

He got crushed by a hit in a game against the Blues, didn't he?

He got nailed by someone pretty bad in the 2nd game of the tournament.

Later on Brayden McNabb absolutely crushed him as well.

 

[Kwayry]

So nobody answered my question about the duke. Can he hit or not? Where will he play next season?

 

[Raspewtin]

So nobody answered my question about the duke. Can he hit or not? Where will he play next season?

Hitting isn't a stand out part of his game, but he wont shy away from contact, and he'll hit if he has to.

He'll probably go back to the Q for one more year. I'd rather he go to the AHL, but he doesn't have that option.

 

[Raspewtin]

Sweet picture!

Those Remparts jerseys are dope.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Tabernack, DuClair with the PM of Quebec!!!!

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Hitting isn't a stand out part of his game, but he wont shy away from contact, and he'll hit if he has to.

He'll probably go back to the Q for one more year. I'd rather he go to the AHL, but he doesn't have that option.

The good thing about him is that he doesn't avoid the dirty areas.

 

[Raspewtin]

The good thing about him is that he doesn't avoid the dirty areas.

Yes, that's why I don't like the Gaborik comparison he gets sometimes.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Gabby went into the dirty areas for a while during his career.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Yes, that's why I don't like the Gaborik comparison he gets sometimes.

How does his shot compare to Gabby's? I'm guessing not as good as Gabby's was ultra elite for a while.

 

[Raspewtin]

How does his shot compare to Gabby's? I'm guessing not as good as Gabby's was ultra elite for a while.

Not that comparable. Gaborik has one of the best snap shots in the league. Duclair has a really good shot, but comparing it to Gaborik's is being unreasonable. It's definitely an asset, though.

 

[Kakko]

Is Carl Hagelin somewhat of a fair comparison?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Is Carl Hagelin somewhat of a fair comparison?

No, Duclair is a much better offensive prospect (so far in his development).

Not that comparable. Gaborik has one of the best snap shots in the league. Duclair has a really good shot, but comparing it to Gaborik's is being unreasonable. It's definitely an asset, though.

You watch him more than I do, but based on my limited viewings, I'd say his best asset is simply how dynamic he is on the ice. Which is to say it's not just one asset (like Christian Thomas's shot), but rather it's a combination of elite speed with good dangle, good shot and an aggressive nose for the net.

He is definitely a player to be excited about.

 

[Raspewtin]

Is Carl Hagelin somewhat of a fair comparison?

Not really, Hagelin isn't very talented at all. Though they have the same puck retrieval skills, and they're both quite fast. Even if Duclair was to have his offense badly translate to the NHL, he still has a skill set for the 3rd line. So I guess he's comparable to Hagelin in that sense.

 

[Raspewtin]

You watch him more than I do, but based on my limited viewings, I'd say his best asset is simply how dynamic he is on the ice. Which is to say it's not just one asset (like Christian Thomas's shot), but rather it's a combination of elite speed with good dangle, good shot and an aggressive nose for the net.

He is definitely a player to be excited about.

Pretty much nailed it with the bolded.

Just one thing though, don't let his assist totals fool you. He's not a playmaker. He's a dynamic goal scorer, but he doesn't have the on ice vision to be able to consistently find open teammates.

He's also not the best stick handler, but it isn't a handicap either. He can protect the puck pretty well, and can carry it through traffic, but he's not going to drag it between legs, or deke through 4 defenders like Nash or Jagr. Duclair, again, like Kane, is best suited driving the net and going straight for the goal. Nothing overly fancy.

 

[Kakko]

Not really, Hagelin isn't very talented at all. Though they have the same puck retrieval skills, and they're both quite fast. Even if Duclair was to have his offense badly translate to the NHL, he still has a skill set for the 3rd line. So I guess he's comparable to Hagelin in that sense.

Yeah, essentially what I meant

Good skater, not afraid of contact, goes into dirty areas

but, with more skill

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Who is the better prospect Kreider or Duclair? I know it's unfair to Duclair because we've seen Kreider at the NHL level.

 

[Fitzy]

Hagelin is perfectly talented offensively, he has simply been molded into more of a jitterbug player.

He could change his game and add a few points, I just think he's quite valueable playing the game he is right now. This is a guy that is experiencing his first season averaging less than .5 ppg, and all of a sudden we're Dubinsky'ing him.

 

[Raspewtin]

Who is the better prospect Kreider or Duclair? I know it's unfair to Duclair because we've seen Kreider at the NHL level.

Kreider and it's not really close.

As of now, in my opinion:

Shot- Kreider>Duclair

Speed- Kreider>Duclair

On ice vision/Passing- Kreider>Duclair

Physicalty- Kreider>>Duclair

Stickhandling- Duclair>Kreider

Dirty Work- Kreider≥Duclair

Agility- Duclair>>Kreider

Of course, no one has seen Duclair at the professional level at all. So these could of course change. And he's still a work in progress.

You'd be better off asking this question after next year.

 

[Raspewtin]

Hagelin is perfectly talented offensively, he has simply been molded into more of a jitterbug player.

He could change his game and add a few points, I just think he's quite valueable playing the game he is right now. This is a guy that is experiencing his first season averaging less than .5 ppg, and all of a sudden we're Dubinsky'ing him.

Nobody is Dubinsky'ing him? He's just not that talented offensively.

He's great at driving the play, puck possession, getting in on the forecheck, etc.

He's still quite important to this team.

 

[Raspewtin]

Yeah, essentially what I meant

Good skater, not afraid of contact, goes into dirty areas

but, with more skill

He does a lot of things better than Hagelin currently, but the core of their games are similar, you're right.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Kreider and it's not really close.

As of now, in my opinion:

Shot- Kreider>Duclair

Skating- Duclair>>Kreider

On ice vision/Passing- Kreider>Duclair

Physicalty- Kreider>>Duclair

Stickhandling- Duclair>Kreider

Dirty Work- Kreider≥Duclair

Agility- Duclair>>Kreider

Of course, no one has seen Duclair at the professional level at all. So these could of course change. And he's still a work in progress.

You'd be better off asking this question after next year.

Kreider, at least this year has scored only a handful of his goals with his shot. I honestly can't remember one outside of the first goal against the Canucks. He had one against Dallas in the first game but it was deflected. I still don't know why people say he has a great shot. Most of his goals are dirty goals, nothing wrong with that but his shot has been mediocre. In previous seasons he scored a goal on a VERY nice shot against NJ and on a nice shot that Holtby should have had. Still mostly scored deflections and stuff.

 

[Bardof425*]

Kreider and it's not really close.

As of now, in my opinion:

Shot- Kreider>Duclair

Skating- Duclair>>Kreider

On ice vision/Passing- Kreider>Duclair

Physicalty- Kreider>>Duclair

Stickhandling- Duclair>Kreider

Dirty Work- Kreider≥Duclair

Agility- Duclair>>Kreider

Of course, no one has seen Duclair at the professional level at all. So these could of course change. And he's still a work in progress.

You'd be better off asking this question after next year.

Duclair is a much better skater than Kreider?? If so he should be in the NHL right now. I don't care how old he is.